Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Three for me, and two for them.
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
Only the keeper is worth a decent vote. None of the rest should get more than 4. If they couldn't bury the worst team in the league (Melbourne Heart) then they don't deserve anything better.
Perhaps the rest of the game does not matter to some people.
Tim was not even close today.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
Only the keeper is worth a decent vote. None of the rest should get more than 4. If they couldn't bury the worst team in the league (Melbourne Heart) then they don't deserve anything better.
I don't think they are the worst team in the league. Today they played some good football.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Worst performance ever by him tonight, got constantly screwed and was responsible for letting through his attacker who set up the first goal.
Pity the team let them down
Only the keeper is worth a decent vote. None of the rest should get more than 4. If they couldn't bury the worst team in the league (Melbourne Heart) then they don't deserve anything better.
I don't think they are the worst team in the league. Today they played some good football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Vukovic: 7: Did well with the shots he could save and was unlucky to concede the two he did, would get a higher rating if he wonder saved their second.
Sigmund: 3.5: Is incredibly good at standing up and blocking players when they run at him, sh*t at everything else.
Dura: 6: Didn't really have a lot to do, but at the end of the day we conceded two and plyed long ball central so anything higher is a bit generous.
North: 6: Exactly as above.
Lochead: 2.5: Can't attack, can't defend, does he even try any more?
Brown: 4: Can't pass, apparently forgot how to tackle.
Ward: 4: Can pass, also can't tackle didn't score, it all evens out.
Muscat: 6: Basically was holding our team together for large portions of the game, and pretty much one of our best players.
Bertos: 4: If you're lookig for some to slowly dribble towards the opposition defence, then do nothing as they tackle him, this is yr man.
Ifill: 4.5: Mr. Forgetful seems to have forgotten he was our best player... he looked well out of it.
Greenacre: 4: Wasn't really in the game, mainly due to the ineptitude further back. But I would like to see him contest 50-50s more, may have put away that chance in the first half.
Herbert: 2: What was he thinking of with his subs. When yr bossing a game against a team without their regular defenders why would you be so conservative with yr plans? Needs to be more aggressive with his selections and subs and generally more of a proactive manager.
ahhhh... the sweet release of an angst filled post
Herbert: 2: What was he thinking of with his subs. When yr bossing a game against a team without their regular defenders why would you be so conservative with yr plans? Needs to be more aggressive with his selections and subs and generally more of a proactive manager.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Herbert: 2: What was he thinking of with his subs. When yr bossing a game against a team without their regular defenders why would you be so conservative with yr plans? Needs to be more aggressive with his selections and subs and generally more of a proactive manager.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
Herbert: 2: What was he thinking of with his subs. When yr bossing a game against a team without their regular defenders why would you be so conservative with yr plans? Needs to be more aggressive with his selections and subs and generally more of a proactive manager.
Yeah no doubt I would say he's conservative, and quite reactive. With the WC we basically had a game plan of defend and play long/diagonal and it worked out quite well, he never really had to change anything and I would say overall we were quite lucky to get the results we did.
In terms of the nix, he barely ever makes early subs even when we are playing sh*t. He also seems to have some favorites like Bertos and Lochead, who have been crap for long periods of time (see majority of last season) and doesn't really drop them.
I mean obvs there some limit to changing it around depending on form in terms of getting a team to gel, but when you have an unchanged line up and are bossing the game but cannot score, why did he not make an 'attacking' substitution til after we conceded? Was he happy with our ineffectual attacks and the quality of attacking possession? Surely not... or he has far lower expectations this season than some of us on here do
Durante - 5 - Average at best, n00b at worst.
North - Didn't see him.
Sigmund - 3 - Terrible.
Ward - 4 - Did his darndest to undo his good work against Sydney. Effectively set up their second. Tried to be tricky when he could pass on several occasions and failed hard.
Muscat - 5.5 - Tried, limited success.
Brown - 4.5 - Just dire. A goal, not even two, can cover how poor he was.
Hearfield - 5.5 - Far from our worst.
Lochhead - 4 - Bad.
Greenacre - 4 - Did nothing.
Ifill - 4.5 - Was fat, useless, and uncreative all match. Most of that 4.5 is down to his good cross for Brown's goal.
MacAllister - Horribly frustrating to watch.
Daniel - 6 - Actually tried.
Bertos - 6 - Tried, especially later on.
Ricki Herbert - 3 - Dropped the ball horribly.
Easiily one of our worst games. So poor. One positive is that we can't get worse.
When is Pavlovic back? Despite his absence he's still earned himself a start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
The subs seemed to reflect panic and the (poor) quality of our off season signings. With Ifill out of form we don't have anyone else to go to on the park. Lots of journeyman like performances, but Manny aside, not a lot of real quality.
Only the keeper is worth a decent vote. None of the rest should get more than 4. If they couldn't bury the worst team in the league (Melbourne Heart) then they don't deserve anything better.
That goes for for any team. You are only as good as the opposition lets you.
However, they did look look like they had the ability to knock the ball around.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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I wasn't agreeing that it had an effect, I was commenting on what I thought the original point was. I too, think it's bollocks to use anything like this as an excuse.
Yeah i agree with this, Bertos did alot and worked pretty hard. Considering hes used to coming off for someone like Daniel pretty much every game i think he did well throughout the full 90. Beat a lot of players, put in a lot of good balls, and got back quickly when Heart were on the counter.
Yeah i agree with this, Bertos did alot and worked pretty hard. Considering hes used to coming off for someone like Daniel pretty much every game i think he did well throughout the full 90. Beat a lot of players, put in a lot of good balls, and got back quickly when Heart were on the counter.