Posh and Becks on the rates!!

I think aside from the football aspect of the transaction (eg promoting the game, etc) the Council�s investment in bring Becks to Wellington will stack up financially. I think the quote from Kerry Prendergast was that they expect a return of 20x the investment for them to put the money up.

best start working on posh spice chants hahahahahahahahah i know there must be millions for evey team in the premiership.

I do not remember for -raising the game profile- to putting ANY money into A league club  so called Wellington Phoenix.

That is for sure a Major investment here.  i.e.
 http://www.yellowfever.co.nz/show-news.asp?ID=755

Just wondering does anyone know how much ratepayers money was used to entice the Rolling Stones ,Elton John ,Neil Diamond etc to play in Wellington?
Kerry prendegast on National radio talking about it now ,evasive as ever!!
Kiwi Jambo2007-08-28 07:42:44

You lot like to complain, don't you? 

After supporting Heart of Midlothian  FC all my life its totally understandable is it not!!
Seriously though theres nothing wrong with a good bit of  objective debate ,i prefer football  FANataics  to SycoPHANtic s !

whats the bet some group of tw@ts will ruin the whole event by bagging Becks and co for the whole game....awesome, a great way to "entice" other teams to come down to this part of the world.

some stuff to ponder....

a) theres no points on the line in this one, purely exhibition, make it a carnival atmosphere
b) check the stats, he's a great footballer (love him or hate him, check the f***** stats)
c) don't judge a man by his wife (unless however she happens to be Eva Longoria) and beside, Posh won't even be here anyways (and don't lie you lot, you'd lay it down on her in a heartbeat)

I will pay through the nose to watch David Beckham play 55 minutes or whatever, i'd pay through the nose to watch Gary "Long Ball, Shorts Up" Neville play.........these guys are the "heroes" that so many of our kids in NZ look up to and get up in the early hours of the morning to watch on overpriced satellite TV (different thread required)......lets make it an enjoyable day for them.....

And as for the council "forking out" - lets just be thankful that the council are even looking "our" way when it comes to funding. Would you rather the club fork out more? get a grip FFS.

MC

the council could fork out for worse things...and probably will

"And as for the council "forking out" - lets just be thankful that the council are even looking "our" way when it comes to funding. Would you rather the club fork out more? get a grip FFS"

Its nothing to do with the council looking "our way" ,its about an increasingly desperate  mayor trying to jump on a popular bandwagon a few weeks out from an election ,ever get the feeling you are being manipulated!!

does it really matter who we are being manipulated by? at the end of the day whoever is in office is going to do this is some way, shape or form.

U taken ur meds today Jambo? Do u think there was another shooter in the JKF incident?

  JFK ?Well if there was he certainly wasn't a Hearts striker !!they couldn't hit a barn door with a cannon from six inches!!
And yes taken my meds and my  nurse says i can stay out for an extra hour today but i have to keep the special jacket on!!


Kiwi Jambo2007-08-28 12:08:31

A rates inquiry sparked by a ratepayer backlash is expected to urge local bodies to get back to basics (Source Dom Post today page A 2)

I read in the Dompost today the funding for it will only come from commercial rates - So I don't think that its that big a deal the are expecting 20 dollars back for everyone they spend. However I don't like the fact the club will cover and losses....

Its a gamble ,just look at the Tiger Woods  Paraparaumu fiasco !and i can still see no justification for not disclosing how much money they are going to spend .
Also i am a commercial rate payer as well as a domestic one !

By the same token, look at the V8's or Rally New Zealand in hamilton.

There will be 10's of thousands in the Waikato for both events.  This weekend from all over the world this week for the rally.  Inspired coucnile leadership kept two important NZ sports events here.

Can't believe we'd try and bash people for investing in brining a high profile event to the city to increase interest in the sport and the Phoenix.

Im not bashing people just looking for more disclosure and openness from the mayor on  A) what the exact benefits will be in funding a promotion for what is basically a self promoting juggernaut ie the Posh and Becks show and
B)how much money they are actually going to give them!
Don't get me wrong im just asking whether people do actually think this is the sort  business a local council should be involving its self in.I have no problem with exhibition football everyone has fun when the circus comes to town ,i  just personally think it is an inappropriate use of council  funds !

I think that if they make a good weekend of this - it could be alot like the sevens same carnival atmosphere etc. Esp if people make an effort to dress up- every one in asile 22 for example could be supporting a mustache and some sideburns - take the retro ricki theme a bit further. The only problem i can see is the fact that the game is sceduled for a sunday. I think it would make alot more sense for a saturday that way we could continue the party right into the night!

God no ?  Sevens ? Please lads show some class.

maybe we should have a sausage sizzle  and raise the money ourselves

the sevens atmosphere is what the punters want, alot of the casual fans we need to pick up to make this work will come to the games because of the atmosphere at the ring of firel not because good football is being played.If we want the casual fan to buy season memberships and get behind the team  we need to give the games a carnival atmoshphere, its the most noticable difference from rugby games.  

Have to agree ,far to contrived !
One of the saddest things ive seen was  a face paint and  coloured   wig set on sale at the Warehouse during sevens week!how safe and unimaginative is that  !!

tigers2007-08-28 13:05:13

Please, please, please no rugby Sevens type dressing up! 

Do we want visiting teams (and media coverage) to think our hardcore supporters are a bunch of teletubbies, smurfs, angels, and cross-dressers?

Thats a fair enough call Westpac stadium full of cheering fans will be enough atmosphere anyway. Does anyone know if any galaxy fans are planning to travel to the oz/nz games

yeah just about to ask, how many away fan can be expected. should be some good banter!

Cant imagine that many septic tanks will come all this way to watch a friendly unless the mayor decides to pay their fares that is !!

Well, to be honest I don't wish to get on the ratepayers'  bandwagon over this.  Perhaps the key thing here is not how much is going to be paid out.  It's not even really an issue of transparency.  Instead, it is simply publicity for the Phoenix and for the love of football itself.  I can't see how that could be a wrong motive.  To get fans (albeit Beckham fans) into the Ring of Fire is the best way to show them how great it is to be at a football game.  So, they'll come back for the Phoenix - we all know how contagious yellow fever is!  I think that it's important to keep the big games in NZ, and more importantly in Wellington - what a great way for the millions of overseas viewers (and the key NZ viewers) to see our boys in action!  Save the council bashing for another code, yeah?

Lets hope they dont market the game the way the Americans have used Becks......not liking this look David! (the guy on the left is Reggie Bush - new orleans saints running back)


Barber212007-08-28 15:50:13

My love of football is completely undiminished but my lack of love for a profligate local council who will  not even tell us how much money they are going to spend on bringing Becks the Galaxy and his missus down here  also shows no sign of waning!!
Its a council who has a committee some of whom are not even elected who have a ten minute meeting and then dip into council coffers and secretly give out council/rates money to high risk entertainment ventures!
 Its  three weeks out from an election ,Prendergast has spotted a euphoric wave on the horizon in the shape of The Phoenix football club  and its fans and  like any politician she is instinctively opportunist,manipulative and desperate, she can also  can smell a juicy bit of publicity from miles away !!
iI think we are being had on this one









Kiwi Jambo2007-08-28 16:42:20

ok i am a phoenix fan and will try to outchant my previous games effort.

Warzycha,
U are a spoon. That much is apparent.

I'm not sure if anyone else has posted these comments yet, so here goes. The fact that the LA Galaxy are playing the Wellington Phoenix is huge publicity wise for Wellington and NZ. This game will be televised in the USA and god knows how many more countries around the world. The idea that a NZ football franchise can compete at that level is nothing but mind boggling. This opportunity should be taken with open arms. I don't personally care how much the council spend on promoting this event(and that so far is all they have committed funds to). The hotel and hospitality industry in wellington will make a fortune from people traveling to the city from outside the region. There is no way that this can be spun negatively. I don't hear people complaining about how much money the council spends on the Wearable art shows and that is significantly higher than what they would be expected to pay for the Galaxy coming to town. The timing may seem significant if you are a conspiracy theorist, but you would be naive to think that anyone from retailers and publicans to politicians wont try and milk this opportunity for all it is worth. Thats human nature. I'm sure the Phoenix management are not organizing this for purely altruistic reasons. They have something significant to gain.

Well said UberGunner

Im dry retching already at the thought of Prendergast and Posh holding up a Phoenix scarf on the front page of the Dom Post.
Prendergast is so obviously jumping on the bandwagon for political gain and the means of doing this is by secretly spending other peoples money ,do you agree with the lack of disclosure Uber?
One of the richest sportsmen on the planet will play football for a club owned by one of the richest men in Wellington and heres the punch line the council are going to help pay for it ,hilarious
Hope people will find the 30% rates increase thats on the cards as easy to swallow as this  and as a side issue do you think the council should be turning down funding for events like the dragon boating festival but still find money for Beckham and co which one benefits the community more in the long run ?
Kiwi Jambo2007-08-29 11:14:12

I don't see what the big deal is with revealing how much will be spent. If i remember correctly from the dom post article it was something to do with the council not wanting another city to "outbid" them please correct me if i'm wrong. This doesn't seem like a valid excuse because it would be a kick in the face from terry and co to all the wellington fans and I doubt he would doom the phoenix just to make a quick buck. I'm all for council funding but it should be transparent otherwise is the council really representing us...

[QUOTE=UberGunner]The timing may seem significant if you are a conspiracy theorist, but you would be naive to think that anyone from retailers and publicans to politicians wont try and milk this opportunity for all it is worth. Thats human nature. QUOTE]

Watch out for militant feminists.  Or fashion victims.  Or just those who don't agree with resorting to chants solely taking the piss of peoples' wives' sexual activity.  They may just give you a slap!

I'm still worried that the galaxy have bitten off more than they could chew by bringing in Beckham, they are forced to fly over America and the rest of the world to play meaningless friendlies to pay his wages, they are really struggling in the MLS and I wonder whether the team would really be up for a game against the phoenix, a friendly played at walking pace after a huge amount of hype could really be damaging for the Phoenix and I think they need some guarantees over the rest of the team and the level of performance before it goes ahead.

amen