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Post Sydney player angst (was Lochy 442)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lochead was the least of our worries on Sunday, defensively he was sound. Not sure what some people expect of him but in the second half we defended most of the half from just in front of our own penalty box, you defend that deep then you are not expecting or frankly wanting your full backs overlapping. When we tried to play out from the back there was no central midfield so the play was generally long ball, how is Lochead expected to support that style of play.

He was one of our better players on the day and over last couple of games I'm thinking he's improved his game greatly from last season.

Still hold the belief that our best formation is 442 with Daniel operating down the left side in front of Lochead which has Bertos operating down the right.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
paullt wrote:
Black Plague wrote:
These comments by Lochead may in fact be aimed at Herbert and his over conservative away tactics. Are the phoenix tied down by Herberts defensive mindest when we play away. What does he say in the dressing room?
 
I think that it was very evident that at half time when the team talk using"twister" came out....
 
 twister I like.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lochy did his defensive job fine - but he was also guilty of belting a lot of very aimless ball down the line to nobody.
While is managing to get a few crosses in (more than Muscat), most of them are from pretty deep positions these days and not particularly threatening.
i seem to remember we played quite a bit of 3-5-2 in season 1, with lochy playing wide on the left - that might explain why he was able to get in more advanced positions more often, get in behind the line and deliver dangerous ball.
but its also not just his responsiblity to get into good positions, somebody has to create an opportunity for him. no point running aimlessly for the corner flag hoping something will happen
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Marius Lacatus wrote:
lochy did his defensive job fine - but he was also guilty of belting a lot of very aimless ball down the line to nobody.


While is managing to get a few crosses in (more than Muscat), most of them are from pretty deep positions these days and not particularly threatening.
i seem to remember�we played quite a bit of 3-5-2 in season 1, with lochy playing wide on the left - that might explain why he was able to get in more advanced positions more often, get in behind the line and deliver dangerous ball.

but its also not just his responsiblity to get into good positions, somebody has to create an opportunity for him. no point running aimlessly for the corner flag hoping something will happen


Marius, if you think back to season 1 you will find that many of Lochy's crosses that we scored from came from fairly deep positions.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:
lochy did his defensive job fine - but he was also guilty of belting a lot of very aimless ball down the line to nobody.


While is managing to get a few crosses in (more than Muscat), most of them are from pretty deep positions these days and not particularly threatening.
i seem to remember�we played quite a bit of 3-5-2 in season 1, with lochy playing wide on the left - that might explain why he was able to get in more advanced positions more often, get in behind the line and deliver dangerous ball.

but its also not just his responsiblity to get into good positions, somebody has to create an opportunity for him. no point running aimlessly for the corner flag hoping something will happen


Marius, if you think back to season 1 you will find that many of Lochy's crosses that we scored from came from fairly deep positions.


And playing 442 with Daniel.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Leggy wrote:
I agree with him, but I also think that this was Lockys best game for a year.
The views


I could never possibly ever agree with anything that Slater says, but agree this was Lochy's best game of the season.
You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Slater is such an expert that Brosque's dive on the edge of the area was a 'definite penalty'.


How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whitby fever wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Marius Lacatus wrote:
lochy did his defensive job fine - but he was also guilty of belting a lot of very aimless ball down the line to nobody.


While is managing to get a few crosses in (more than Muscat), most of them are from pretty deep positions these days and not particularly threatening.
i seem to remember we played quite a bit of 3-5-2 in season 1, with lochy playing wide on the left - that might explain why he was able to get in more advanced positions more often, get in behind the line and deliver dangerous ball.

but its also not just his responsiblity to get into good positions, somebody has to create an opportunity for him. no point running aimlessly for the corner flag hoping something will happen


Marius, if you think back to season 1 you will find that many of Lochy's crosses that we scored from came from fairly deep positions.


And playing 442 with Daniel.
true - its the 442 with daniel that was definitely a factor. he brought lochy into the game down that flank a lot
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
V1 Daniel neq V2/V3 Daniel


True but I'm thinking V3 looks more like V1 than V2, call me an optimist.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah i saw that! Slater was all 'that's a definite penalty" when the replay clearly showed a blatant dive that should have been yellow carded! Slater is such a hard core Sydney man that he's worse than TJ and Murray M with the All Blacks.
bling blang blah
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bennie99 wrote:
Yeah i saw that! Slater was all 'that's a definite penalty" when the replay clearly showed a blatant dive that should have been yellow carded! Slater is such a hard core Sydney man that he's worse than TJ and Murray M with the All Blacks.


Robbie Slater is actually from Liverpool, a scouser.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Additionally, having a technical player who could operate between the lines (Felipe) allowed us to keep possession better and Lochhead was able to get into space.  We can't string passes together so that doesn't allow him to make those runs, if we don't pass around the full backs then he's always behind hi sman.
 
Maybe Caceres will help?  Lochhead has the quality and he can be really dangerous, its important that we get him playing well again.

Normo's coming home

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
james dean wrote:
Additionally, having a technical player who could operate between the lines (Felipe) allowed us to keep possession better and Lochhead was able to get into space.  We can't string passes together so that doesn't allow him to make those runs, if we don't pass around the full backs then he's always behind hi sman.
 
Maybe Caceres will help?  Lochhead has the quality and he can be really dangerous, its important that we get him playing well again.


Are you suggesting giving him drugs, or sorcery? I'll donate some of my pubes if you think it'll work
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