I'm sick of every single break being f**ked up by some Australian making a stupid tackle. The ref blows it up, but then it just happens the next break.
Victory and Fury are the worst offenders. Imo, purposeful fouls should be punished much harder than anything accidental.
Victory and Fury are the worst offenders. Imo, purposeful fouls should be punished much harder than anything accidental.
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A-league referees are very low standard. There should more yellow cards especially for those obvious professional fouls and some yellow cards are suppose to be red cards. The game is constantly losing flow and entertain value if the game s not clamp down straightway. Personally I think it creates more draws that it should be.
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Yes, cynical fouls should be met with a booking, simple as that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Surely those that need to know actually can see this is happening.
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Surely those that need to know actually can see this is happening.
You would think so, some of the tackles going into our lot last night were just unreal, I was screaming at the TV. Horrible cynical fouling.
I've not watched many of the other teams matches, due to working late shifts, is there a trend at the mo of Ref's keeping the cards in the pocket? Have they been directed to do this? Make the game more physical?
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Yeah was definetly one of the most noticeable things about last night,every time we broke away we were just chopped down. Bought back memories of felipe in season one.
the refereeing standard is very poor and it brings down the standard of the league and the product to fans/potential fans
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I don't think it's been that bad overall, with one or two exceptions from the usual suspects. I prefer too little whistle to too much. Yes, some clear fouls have been missed by various refs recently but it's far from epidemic.
I'd much rather a free flowing game with an occasional missed foul than 40 or 50 whistle toots a game, as in one Ben Williams horror show recently.
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I dont think the games are all that free flowing. My gripe is,yes they let a lot of stuff go,and the blatant stuff goes unpunished. So what are you likely to do if referees are like this? Just foul as much as possible to disrupt your oppositions play.
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If the refs in the A-League were any good, Craig Moore would have been red carded, and so would have a few other players over the weekend.
The cynical professional fouls that don't get yellow carded in the A-League are cause for concern - Henrique out with knee surgery due to a crap tackle from Leijer, and there's been plenty of others that could have been just as bad.
The cynical professional fouls that don't get yellow carded in the A-League are cause for concern - Henrique out with knee surgery due to a crap tackle from Leijer, and there's been plenty of others that could have been just as bad.
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and what about the pantelidis elbow in the gold coast perth game.... only a yellow..??? 
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Matthew Breeze isn't a ref though, he's a running joke.
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Matthew Breeze isn't a ref though, he's a running joke.
thats a nice little pun News, you do this quite often don't ya?
Salmon swim upstream
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Quite frankly the volume of LOLs that I bring here that is missed is distressing.
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like pearls before swine no doubt
Salmon swim upstream
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Free flowing???
There was plenty of whistle blowing for fouls, but hardly any cards are given. It ain't going to make that much of a difference to the flow unless fouls are not blown. It is not the whistle blowing that got me, it the lack of yellow and red cards that are given for the fouls that the whistle blew for.
Goodness I saw referees giving the pat on the back to players who committed the foul just afterwards as though to say "hey that was bit naughty but it's OK I am not going to card you" I am ok for being friendly, but come on that is really it's rewarding the fouler and not protecting the foulee.
If there are more yellow cards and red card, the game will be more free flowing with less players and more space.
There was plenty of whistle blowing for fouls, but hardly any cards are given. It ain't going to make that much of a difference to the flow unless fouls are not blown. It is not the whistle blowing that got me, it the lack of yellow and red cards that are given for the fouls that the whistle blew for.
Goodness I saw referees giving the pat on the back to players who committed the foul just afterwards as though to say "hey that was bit naughty but it's OK I am not going to card you" I am ok for being friendly, but come on that is really it's rewarding the fouler and not protecting the foulee.
If there are more yellow cards and red card, the game will be more free flowing with less players and more space.
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I don't think it's been that bad overall, with one or two exceptions from the usual suspects. I prefer too little whistle to too much. Yes, some clear fouls have been missed by various refs recently but it's far from epidemic.
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I'd much rather a free flowing game with an occasional missed foul than 40 or 50 whistle toots a game, as in one Ben Williams horror show recently.
Well Ben Williams problem is either he blows for minor technical things that are not fouls or he blows and makes the wrong call on a 50/50 challenge where an advantage would be more suited. This we know all so well.
But when is he just blows and blows and blows and blows but no yellow card is given, then he just blows and blows and blows and blows endlessly and that is when there is a problem across all A-league referees not just Ben Williams.
If there are more yellow cards given per whistle blows, then the game settles to a real free flowing game and increase the entertain value to the crowd. A good referee would set the right tone in the first 10 minutes because he does want to enjoy a less than trouble game himself.
I believe that any professional, cynical fouls to prevent a progression of the other team is an automatic yellow card for unsportmanship. I believe any red card from behind where the tackler is sliding from the ground is automatic.
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there are currently too many cards in football. Take a look at Zabaletta for Citeh at Wigan in the weekend - he only conceeded 2 fouls all game, was booked for both of them (wrongly in my opinion) and was sent off. That ruined the game.
What seems to have been forgotten over the last 20 years is that football is a contact sport. That means that there is allowed to be contact when players who are challenging for the ball, which is never allowed at all these days. So many times you see free kicks and penalties given, with commentators saying "there was contact" like that justifies the decision. That is bollocks. How the rule should be:
* if there is contact with the ball and the man, that is alright (especially if you touch the ball first, although that is blown up these days).
* if there is no contact with the ball, the contact with the player has to be sufficient to actually knock them off their feet. Too often these days players go to ground and win free kicks and penalties but replays show that there was a touch between the players so it is not a dive. This was the defence that Eduardo used to get off his dive in the Champions League, and complete bullsh*t.
Sorry if this has gone off on a bit of tangent, but it annoys it and I haven't fully woken up yet. There is a blog in this if blogging wasn't so last year - I actually got drunk and ranted to the wife about this very topic for about half an hour at a restaurant a couple of weeks ago.
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seems to me the aussie style is pretty physical and direct, the refs are used to it and therefore they tend to accomodate it
i reckon that doesn't help us, with a bit more of an interpassing less direct game
i don't expect to see anything changing in a hurry, but yep, i agree the body checking and cynical stuff doesn't help the game
i reckon that doesn't help us, with a bit more of an interpassing less direct game
i don't expect to see anything changing in a hurry, but yep, i agree the body checking and cynical stuff doesn't help the game
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Did you explain theOffside Rule with the condoments Frankie?
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Maybe you got to explain the tackle from behind later that night?
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Did you explain theOffside Rule with the condoments Frankie?
these days I am not sure that I understand the offside rule myself.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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there are currently too many cards in football. Take a look at Zabaletta for Citeh at Wigan in the weekend - he only conceeded 2 fouls all game, was booked for both of them (wrongly in my opinion) and was sent off. That ruined the game.
What seems to have been forgotten over the last 20 years is that football is a contact sport. That means that there is allowed to be contact when players who are challenging for the ball, which is never allowed at all these days. So many times you see free kicks and penalties given, with commentators saying "there was contact" like that justifies the decision. That is bollocks. How the rule should be:
* if there is contact with the ball and the man, that is alright (especially if you touch the ball first, although that is blown up these days).
* if there is no contact with the ball, the contact with the player has to be sufficient to actually knock them off their feet. Too often these days players go to ground and win free kicks and penalties but replays show that there was a touch between the players so it is not a dive. This was the defence that Eduardo used to get off his dive in the Champions League, and complete bullsh*t.
Sorry if this has gone off on a bit of tangent, but it annoys it and I haven't fully woken up yet. There is a blog in this if blogging wasn't so last year - I actually got drunk and ranted to the wife about this very topic for about half an hour at a restaurant a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah no one argue with you but it's the state/rules of the game these days, and some of the tackles/clothesline type behavior on saturday needed to be carded.
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Matthew Breeze isn't a ref though, he's a running joke.
Thought I was the only person that thought this guy was the worst ref in the A league, and a FIFA ref to boot.
Having played the game for many years this bloke would border on one of the worst refs I have ever seen.
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