Wellington Phoenix Men

Questions to be answered

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Questions to be answered
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The creativity and go-forward of Felipe? The leadership and passion of Aloisi? The youngsters?

We have no creative person in CM. Ferrante is largely absent, a few decent passes. Johnson gives his all but is it good enough? Wheres the creativity? The link-up? Its non existent. Seeing Daniel + Felipe last year was fantastic, highlight of the year.

Wheres our leadership? We look dis-organised, we lack movitvation and urgency, did the presence of Aloisi give us that?

Wheres Costa? He cant be worse worse than what we've watched the opening 3 rounds, why not give him a go?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Said it once before that we are missing Felipe...

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Costa not being given a chance is the one that i cant understand,and i dont go with him being to young that some have posted.Cast back to the last game last season was it not Costa who had an outstanding game against CCM.Has he been injured or just not come up to scratch this season.
After that game last season i for one was looking forward to seeing him giving us some much needed pace and spark on attack.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Found: One spine. Left at Wellington Airport on Thursday. Would the owners kindly pick it up and put it back in the right place.
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1: 3 games, 3 times our RB position was our exposed for an achillies heal....  have all clubs picked up on this? Durante was a RB at Newcastle was he not?

2: People say we are a striker short, are we now more so than ever a quality ball winning central midfielder short? Do we truly have any CM or are they all makeshift....

3: Bertos, Daniel, Gao, Hearfeld - are we suffering from too many players of the same mould? Is this our method of scoring? From crosses as opposed to something built through the middle?

4: Middlesborough - did it do more harm than good?

5: Ross Aloisi - Are we now seeing the real value that he provided when some YF members rubbished him?

6: Ferrante - what is his true position because its not CM

7: (while I am not a fan and consistently hate this call) maybe it is time to give the young Costa boy a crack.. Could he be worse than Kwasnik thus far?

8: Coveny - Is there a player that gives more week in week out for little playing time?

9: 1 captain and 3 vice captains - when is someone going to start leading?

10: Gao/Bertos - Have we bought hype and not substance?

11: Did we play better last year with Dodd at CB than this year with him at CM? Is there something to that?

12:  Daniel - Why does hie not play 90mins? Does RH view him as an impact player? Would he not be better served playing in front of Johnson in a creative role more central?

13: With RH being the only coach, who does he turn to when he needs a different perspective?

14: When is Glen Moss going to get angry enough at his back 4 that they will listen and start defending him
Agent 472008-08-31 11:18:23
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Agent 47 wrote:

2: People say we are a striker short, are we now more so than ever a quality ball winning central midfielder short? Do we truly have any CM or are they all makeshift....3: Bertos, Daniel, Gao, Hearfeld - are we suffering from too many players of the same mould? Is this our method of scoring? From crosses as opposed to something built through the middle?

I completely agree here, i tried to make the argument in my post match rant but it was really clear last night we had no one to play through the middle, all we looked to do was go wide. the worrying thing is though is that we don't really have any one in the squad with any ability to create things in the middle as opposed to creating things wide.
oh and this was very tony johnson of you agent 47

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
totally agree about the tony johnson point bopman
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
john mckain looks a bit tidier on the deck compared with doddy maybe a switch of position chucking him in that holding midefield
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lol
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[QUOTE=Agent 47] 1: 3 games, 3 times our RB position was our exposed for an achillies heal....  have all clubs picked up on this? Durante was a RB at Newcastle was he not?

It was Mullligans first game in the side and he hasn't played for a while, give him a chance to settle.


2: People say we are a striker short, are we now more so than ever a quality ball winning central midfielder short? Do we truly have any CM or are they all makeshift....

After last night I think a agree with you here, to much shadowing players and not enough pressure

3: Bertos, Daniel, Gao, Hearfeld - are we suffering from too many players of the same mould? Is this our method of scoring? From crosses as opposed to something built through the middle?

I hope not, our crossing has been absolutely horrible in the first 3 games.

4: Middlesborough - did it do more harm than good?

I agree again. Thats the worst game I've seen Lochead play in a season and a half.

5: Ross Aloisi - Are we now seeing the real value that he provided when some YF members rubbished him?

We definitely seem to be lacking leadership. Would getting Ross back for another season be the answer? not in my opinion.

6: Ferrante - what is his true position because its not CM

Tough question, to me I definitely think he's good enough to be in the mix, but I guess Ricki really needs to sort his formation out to get the most out of him.

7: (while I am not a fan and consistently hate this call) maybe it is time to give the young Costa boy a crack.. Could he be worse than Kwasnik thus far?

I couldn't agree more, I hate the whinging about bringing on Costa all the time, but I'm beginning to think its time to give him a crack.

8: Coveny - Is there a player that gives more week in week out for little playing time?

He was superb when he came on last night, a striker who can actually hold up the ball and defend from the front, he's been a standout the last two games for me.

9: 1 captain and 3 vice captains - when is someone going to start leading?

....Sigh.....agreed. I am beginning to wonder if Ricki's got his tactics right, it may not be a leadership thing, it may just be players are confused about their roles.

10: Gao/Bertos - Have we bought hype and not substance?

Its simple, Bertos needs to learn to shoot, Gao needs to learn to pass, last night Gao did some good stuff then got greedy. Gao getting booked after asking for another player to be booked is the most shameful thing I've ever seen a Nix player do.

11: Did we play better last year with Dodd at CB than this year with him at CM? Is there something to that?

Dunno mate, I thought he was poor at CB last year.

12:  Daniel - Why does hie not play 90mins? Does RH view him as an impact player? Would he not be better served playing in front of Johnson in a creative role more central?

Persoanlly I'd drop Gao and start Daniel.

13: With RH being the only coach, who does he turn to when he needs a different perspective?

I think you've hit the nail on the head here, I think he's made a few mistakes this year, especially with substitutions. Still, we have to back him. Maybe its a long term plan??

14: When is Glen Moss going to get angry enough at his back 4 that they will listen and start defending him

Shay Given from Newcastle should be his mentor.


Good questions though.Sorry for the long post.

FitzFitz2008-08-31 15:13:10
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SACK RICKI.

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Agent 47 wrote:
1: 3 games, 3 times our RB position was our exposed for an achillies heal....  have all clubs picked up on this? Durante was a RB at Newcastle was he not?

2: People say we are a striker short, are we now more so than ever a quality ball winning central midfielder short? Do we truly have any CM or are they all makeshift....

3: Bertos, Daniel, Gao, Hearfeld - are we suffering from too many players of the same mould? Is this our method of scoring? From crosses as opposed to something built through the middle?

4: Middlesborough - did it do more harm than good?

5: Ross Aloisi - Are we now seeing the real value that he provided when some YF members rubbished him?

6: Ferrante - what is his true position because its not CM

7: (while I am not a fan and consistently hate this call) maybe it is time to give the young Costa boy a crack.. Could he be worse than Kwasnik thus far?

8: Coveny - Is there a player that gives more week in week out for little playing time?

9: 1 captain and 3 vice captains - when is someone going to start leading?

10: Gao/Bertos - Have we bought hype and not substance?

11: Did we play better last year with Dodd at CB than this year with him at CM? Is there something to that?

12:  Daniel - Why does hie not play 90mins? Does RH view him as an impact player? Would he not be better served playing in front of Johnson in a creative role more central?

13: With RH being the only coach, who does he turn to when he needs a different perspective?

14: When is Glen Moss going to get angry enough at his back 4 that they will listen and start defending him
 
Answering number 3...this may be where riki has it wrong. We do have all these wide players,but playing 4-2-3-1 gives NO width,it directs al atack down the middle as all players are central

Allegedly

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I think it's more a matter of our CMs not covering the middle of the park well enough, which leaves us rather exposed when we're trying to attck down the flanks (which seems to be our only method of creating chances). It reallygets at me that in the preseaso  this system worked fine, and now were in the season proper and nothing ricki does seems to function.

You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Start Costa. At least he will look like he gives a sh*t and not be half asleep the entire game.

Oska wrote:

I think it's more a matter of our CMs not covering the middle of the park well enough, which leaves us rather exposed when we're trying to attck down the flanks (which seems to be our only method of creating chances). It reallygets at me that in the preseaso  this system worked fine, and now were in the season proper and nothing ricki does seems to function.



Most teams don't take pre season seriously. Melbourne didn't and they still won the thing.
valeo2008-08-31 18:15:37

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Definitely miss Aloisi. I was a big fan of him last season, and think his leadership, understanding of the game from a deeper midfield position, distribution and ability to chip in with a couple of goals will be sorely missed this season.
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I's not so much our performances in the Preseason Valeo, it was the effort put in to developing that formation
You know we belong together...

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we miss felipe. he was much better than gao, hearfield, kwasnik or bertos. gao is a dickhead for trying to get their player booked, we don't need blokes in the phoenix shirt carrying on like that.

start coveny up with smeltz and make coveny captain cause he's the only one out there giving it everything and looking likely.
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valeo wrote:
Start Costa. At least he will look like he gives a sh*t and not be half asleep the entire game.

Oska wrote:

I think it's more a matter of our CMs not covering the middle of the park well enough, which leaves us rather exposed when we're trying to attck down the flanks (which seems to be our only method of creating chances). It reallygets at me that in the preseaso  this system worked fine, and now were in the season proper and nothing ricki does seems to function.



Most teams don't take pre season seriously. Melbourne didn't and they still won the thing.
 
Melbourne coach was just on SBS today saying how serious they had taken preseason this year.  Teams go out to win every game.
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I think Durante needs to step up. He's supposed to be captain so some passion from him wouldn't go astray. He needs to be a force at the back and right now, I'm not seeing that.
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Oska wrote:

I think it's more a matter of our CMs not covering the middle of the park well enough, which leaves us rather exposed when we're trying to attck down the flanks (which seems to be our only method of creating chances). It reallygets at me that in the preseaso  this system worked fine, and now were in the season proper and nothing ricki does seems to function.

 
Thats the point. They have too much to cover with such a formation. I really dont think they are good enough players for the formation to work.

Allegedly

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Look at our team on paper, it is outstanding.
the coach is the one who should get them to mould, he hasn't, we are terrible.
Drastic changes need to be made.
Out:
Kwasnik (missing in action)
Johnson (not up to it anymore)
Ferrante (What's happened to his passing, he's weak and slow)
In:
Coveny (What a battler, will fight, unlike Kwasnik)
Brown (Always holds his position, unlike Ferrante and Johnson)

And maybe:(ahead of bertos who has been average)
Daniel (He has flair and sparks things up, links up well with Lochhead too).

Also these people need to wake up:
Moss (he used to be so vocal, maybe he's not comfortable with the new player yet)
Lochhead (He's not at Middlesborough, and he's proved why)
Durante (Cant believe how he's playing)

Oh well a week off brings new hope that they have woken up and decided to be footballers





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