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"Veteren" Premier League Players

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bigdunc wrote:
Auckland Jag wrote:
Have to be somebody who would still be capable of doing the business and wasn't just out to pay for the retirement home. 
 
Look at Scott Gemmill, ex International and Premiership player and he was an absolute f*****g waste of space when he came out here. (Mind you, I never rated him that highly at any stage!)
 
 
Scott Gemmill was always just a premierhip squad player in a ( at the time)very average Everton team and only an international because Scotland were crap at the time.



  I was just too polite to say that Dunc.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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yellowfury wrote:

Maybe see if we could get vinnie jones to leave his hollywood career, now he could teach our boys how to defend. get Peter Jackson to offer him a part in his newest film, and let Vinnie have a run for the nix at the same time, its a match made in heaven. By the way, if Richardson is one of the brighest stars in his generation, England�are in trouble. He is Premiership quality, but not up to it at the top level. And before you say it, his goals were against the USA in a friendly



All that Vinnie could teach them is how to tackle 10-year old kids...
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possible suggestion, was thinking about this before and 2 names seemed to pop into my head, first was Harry Kewell, altho admittedly i don't know his situation at Liverpool, or much about him in general, altho that he is Australian which would help. a few years down the track maybe? as i say, could be waaaaay of the mark. also whats the situation with ivan vicelich these days? he playing somewhere? don't know / havent researched, just an idea
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muso wrote:
possible suggestion, was thinking about this before and 2 names seemed to pop into my head, first was Harry Kewell, altho admittedly i don't know his situation at Liverpool, or much about him in general, altho that he is Australian which would help. a few years down the track maybe? as i say, could be waaaaay of the mark. also whats the situation with ivan vicelich these days? he playing somewhere? don't know / havent researched, just an idea


I think Vicelich is still toiling somewhere in the nether regions in the Netherlands.
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Ugh! The idea of some tired old British nag from yesteryear coming down to the Antipodes to teach the locals how to play doesn't appeal at all. NZ soccer, ie the Phoenix, is doing the right thing by looking to other countries like Brazil for footballing talent.  We need to get out of that stolid, porridgy British mindset.
I can honestly say that apart from the odd free kick even the 'legendary' Beckham bores the bejesus out of me. And who mentioned Duncan Ferguson? Isn't he already in a rocking chair, sipping a hot toddy with a wee tartan rug draped over his lap?
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StopOut wrote:
Ugh! The idea of some tired old British nag from yesteryear coming down to the Antipodes to teach the locals how to play doesn't appeal at all. NZ soccer, ie the Phoenix, is doing the right thing by looking to other countries like Brazil for footballing talent.  We need to get out of that stolid, porridgy British mindset.
I can honestly say that apart from the odd free kick even the 'legendary' Beckham bores the bejesus out of me. And who mentioned Duncan Ferguson? Isn't he already in a rocking chair, sipping a hot toddy with a wee tartan rug draped over his lap?
 
 
Mate, I thought Stop Out supporters were in this century!
Simply look what Beckham has done for the profile of football in the states. look what he has done for the Galaxy.Do you really think  that a big name wouldnt do wonders for the profile of the Phoenix?! Come on Fella, Wake up.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9uM_iY0ukM check out Ferguson in his rocking chair!
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If you are looking for an older player with huge talent, who isnt playing anymore, but is still fit enough to get around a field for 90 minutes you should find out what Dennis Bergkamp is doing. Only problem is you would have to drug him to get him on a plane for every away game (just like B A Baracus from the A-Team)
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UberGunner wrote:
If you are looking for an older player with huge talent, who isnt playing anymore, but is still fit enough to get around a field for 90 minutes you should find out what Dennis Bergkamp is doing. Only problem is you would have to drug him to get him on a plane for every away game (just like B A Baracus from the A-Team)
Zidane would be good, if we could get him out of retirement
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ole gunnar name I always spell wrong SOLXJAER....
 
again the whole always injured and retired thing.....but hey


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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Combine the elder statesman with masses of experience with the Brasilian abilities...
 
Rivaldo
Roberto Carlos
Cafu
Ze Roberto
Or, of the less 'fashionable' names, Vampeta, Giovanni and Edilson - not so much overseas experience, but masses of Brasilian league action.
 
All are still active and will most likely want to play for 'one more year' - the A-League and a relaxed life in New Zealand may appeal to them.
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
a lot of the players mentioned on here who are still playing, are on wages of about 25,000 pounds per week (Roberto Carlos in Turkey, Fowler at Cardiff, I would guess that Kewell would be on at least double that).
 
Do people think that we are going to be able to offer $50,000 per week to these guys to match what they are on at the moment?

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm sure Becks will want to stay in Wellie after the YF lads take him out on the turps at Electric Ave

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
I'm sure Becks will want to stay in Wellie after the YF lads take him out on the turps at Electric Ave
 
fcuking hell, you think we're made of money?  We'll take him to the fever lounge for cheap jugs

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
bigdunc wrote:
StopOut wrote:
Ugh! The idea of some tired old British nag from yesteryear coming down to the Antipodes to teach the locals how to play doesn't appeal at all. NZ soccer, ie the Phoenix, is doing the right thing by looking to other countries like Brazil for footballing talent.  We need to get out of that stolid, porridgy British mindset.
I can honestly say that apart from the odd free kick even the 'legendary' Beckham bores the bejesus out of me. And who mentioned Duncan Ferguson? Isn't he already in a rocking chair, sipping a hot toddy with a wee tartan rug draped over his lap?
 
 
Mate, I thought Stop Out supporters were in this century!
Simply look what Beckham has done for the profile of football in the states. look what he has done for the Galaxy.Do you really think  that a big name wouldnt do wonders for the profile of the Phoenix?! Come on Fella, Wake up.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9uM_iY0ukM check out Ferguson in his rocking chair!

Beckham has barely been on the park for the Galaxy yet! We need a fit and committed player to help us win the league, not an over-paid tabloid media muppet.

I checked out the Duncan video: impressive but an obvious fake. My Scottish contact reliably informs me that he saw him last Saturday night at a Stirling bingo hall. Won a few quid did the old fella.
Great seeing that footage of him chucking Paul Ince over though. He's worth ten Beckhams for me.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cafu would be perfect! i just read that he is VERY interested in playing in the 2010 world cup making making him like 40, so he has a great spirit!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
What a waste of space this thread is.

We've got a full line-up of imported players.  We've got a full squad.  We've got a Marquee signed for two years.

I know, Terry has spent millions buying us a football club so let's waste bandwidth and talk bollocks for hours on how we can waste more of it.

Let's talk about the players we have instead of offering Terry's money up to be a retirement home for some vapid money hungry player looking for a retirement package.


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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Baiter wrote:
What a waste of space this thread is.

We've got a full line-up of imported players.  We've got a full squad.  We've got a Marquee signed for two years.

I know, Terry has spent millions buying us a football club so let's waste bandwidth and talk bollocks for hours on how we can waste more of it.

Let's talk about the players we have instead of offering Terry's money up to be a retirement home for some vapid money hungry player looking for a retirement package.


Look mate if you don't like the thread, don't read it and for god's sake dont tell us how you feel about it.
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Baiter wrote:
What a waste of space this thread is.

We've got a full line-up of imported players.  We've got a full squad.  We've got a Marquee signed for two years.

I know, Terry has spent millions buying us a football club so let's waste bandwidth and talk bollocks for hours on how we can waste more of it.

Let's talk about the players we have instead of offering Terry's money up to be a retirement home for some vapid money hungry player looking for a retirement package.
 
HERE HERE!
 
 
why waste time about imports when our import slots our open! leave this talk til our imports leave (if they do, fingers crossed they dont!!)

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Glad its terry that put the money up and not some of those posting,as we would probably be supporting a team of crocks who could only last a couple of games.Round 6 and already some want to replace some players.Hate to see what it looks like on here if we have an Auckland season in the years to come.Guess that will sort some of you out.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Baiter wrote:
What a waste of space this thread is.

We've got a full line-up of imported players.  We've got a full squad.  We've got a Marquee signed for two years.

I know, Terry has spent millions buying us a football club so let's waste bandwidth and talk bollocks for hours on how we can waste more of it.

Let's talk about the players we have instead of offering Terry's money up to be a retirement home for some vapid money hungry player looking for a retirement package.
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm thinking of next season - upwards and onwards, and all that.  The Brasilian boys I listed will still be looking for good money - but there will be fewer offers on the table from Europe and it may be possible to nick one of them away (especially with Juninho speaking highly of Sydney, Romario still singing the praises of Adelaide, and the less famous Brasilians like Daniel and Felipe also enjoying life here).  Can you imagine the effect of trading up from an aging Ross Aloisi to an aging Ze Roberto?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
why waste time about imports when our import slots our open! leave this talk til our imports leave (if they do, fingers crossed they dont!!)
 
Only Daniel is on a two year deal - which means the others will most likely leave unless they get new deals soon.  If Felipe keeps playing as well as he is, he'll get stolen away like Fred did last year.  If Cleberson and George don't get game time they'll go somewhere they can actually play.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Benjamin wrote:
why waste time about imports when our import slots our open! leave this talk til our imports leave (if they do, fingers crossed they dont!!)
 
Only Daniel is on a two year deal - which means the others will most likely leave unless they get new deals soon.  If Felipe keeps playing as well as he is, he'll get stolen away like Fred did last year.  If Cleberson and George don't get game time they'll go somewhere they can actually play.
 
 
reckon terry will offer big bucks to him? i know there is a salary cap but if clebs and george leave then it will open up 2 imprt spots plus money

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Wouldn't mind seeing  someone like Ray Parlour in the Squad. As for defense... persuade Tony Adams out of retirement and play him in Centre back
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Parlour is about 35 isn't he??
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yeah, and lets get Martin Keown in aswell, hell lets hunt down the entire arsenal back four from 1995
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

There is a really awesome german striker with A-League experience. He'd cost a lot but would be worth breaking the bank for:

Dennis Ibrahim
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I think that Elrich is way better than a veteran. He has the skills and pace to play at a high level (and he did until an injury rueld him out), so why should we get some old pansy player who's 34/35 when we can havea Socceroo who rules??

Also, this is an interesting topic but our squad is full. So shouldn't we close it and perhaps re-open it at the end of the season?

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think most people on here are just having a laugh, it you look at who is posting, youd realise most of us realise the squad cap issue.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if ure on at defenders then......
 
UNLEASH THE BEAST
 
 
 
 
 
BOBO BALDE.
Scottishbhoy2007-10-26 15:26:42

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
UberGunner wrote:
I think most people on here are just having a laugh, it you look at who is posting, youd realise most of us realise the squad cap issue.
 
yeah yeah you're right. I was just saying! :D

Anyway, I don't know if you're heard but ALDAIR has been playing with a S. Marino team in the UEFA cup...I mean, it doesn't get much better than that....
newzealandpower2007-10-26 15:28:42

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bobo Balde would be a great signing in this league - I was always a little surprised he never went further from Celtic in England, Italy or Spain
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Cnut wrote:
Bobo Balde would be a great signing in this league - I was always a little surprised he never went further from Celtic in England, Italy or Spain
 
Sure wood be. currently at Celtic sitting on the bench, sorta past his european standards tho,
 
was a brillinat player and i think he wood do wonders for us in defnece.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bring back Stiggy (Stig Tofting)!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ok, i'll play your silly game

Nat Lofthouse
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Benjamin wrote:
[QUOTE=Scottishbhoy]why waste time about imports when our import slots our open! leave this talk til our imports leave (if they do, fingers crossed they dont!!)
 
Only Daniel is on a two year deal - which means the others will most likely leave unless they get new deals soon.  If Felipe keeps playing as well as he is, he'll get stolen away like Fred did last year.  If Cleberson and George don't get game time they'll go somewhere they can actually play.
 
I think that if we don't extend his contract we're a bunch of dummies. Daniel's the man - no doubt about it. But Felipe is just as good. So usually when you have two great players - logic would suggest that you should try and keep them.
 
Haven't seen Milan selling Kaka, Roma selling Totti or Man Utd selling Rooney...

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
True NZP - but those fellas don't really have much else to aspire to - whereas there are huge steps up from the A-League.
 
Getting Felipe to sign a new contract is a must for next year - Daniel has already signed for two years.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
My money would be on bringing Teddy Sheringham to the Nix....he would both shine and lead with a wealth of knowledge for the rest of the team to learn from.  Imagine how good Smeltz would become playing in a squad with Teddy!!!

He'd quickly become a Yellow Fever favourite I'm sure of that.

Felipe will be signed for next if not two more seasons.....that will be getting worked on right about now.
Coxey2007-10-27 00:15:36
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Henrik Larson he would be awesome for the A-League
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Henrik Larson he would be awesome for the A-League
 
Said that a while ago.
 
Would be amazing, but he wont come as he is settled in Sweden with his Family and is getting on abit/

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lol i didnt know that! but it goes to show a true first class player can bring the rest up to scratch.I Wasnt really thinking of the likes of Devine or Elrich who have tinkered with the big guns, more along the lines of the Roberto Carlos and Edwin Van Der Sar types, players who have had to earn their right to stay at the top for years not just a season or two (like Devine) who were bought on a whim or flukes of form.But you could go either way on it really, would the money be well spent? would they learn anything? or would it just be a waste of a spot in the squad because their just TOO DAMN OLD to run around! lol


i thnk van der sar is a huge call. maybe the biggest. i cant think bwt it seriously
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