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"Veteren" Premier League Players

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"Veteren" Premier League Players
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I saw an article a while back about one of the A-League teams trying to get Dwight York, a elder player in the premier league, and i thought why don't the phoenix do the same? even just one of these guys could give so much advice and pass on immense amount of skill to all the younger guys and probably to our older guys as well, just think what a Edgar Davids (not too out of reach for the Phoenix selectors) could teach our defense!

Im sure there are HUGE amounts of great ex-internationals that we could get, hell Sydney got Juninho whats stopping us?

Please don't say "We don't need any help idiot" or the like, im just sharing an idea :)
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Sydney had Dwight Yorke in the first a-league season(sorry if u know), and he was a large contribution to there winning of the league, controlled there midfield, was awesome when he came to Noth Harbour.

it is a good point, although i dont think it would really benefit too much, especially with the possibility of another devine. Elrich has premier league experience, which is handy
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You mean someone to give Smeltz  advice on how to score, Danny...?
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All our foreigner spots in the roster were filled by the brazilians.
 
Elrich was all good as a marquee player. Though yeah i see what you're saying, a player of premiership experience who has played at the top level can pass on a lot, and get fans through the gates too...
 
We should sign beckham...

Allegedly

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lol i didnt know that! but it goes to show a true first class player can bring the rest up to scratch.

I Wasnt really thinking of the likes of Devine or Elrich who have tinkered with the big guns, more along the lines of the Roberto Carlos and Edwin Van Der Sar types, players who have had to earn their right to stay at the top for years not just a season or two (like Devine) who were bought on a whim or flukes of form.

But you could go either way on it really, would the money be well spent? would they learn anything? or would it just be a waste of a spot in the squad because their just TOO DAMN OLD to run around! lol


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Or would they just take the money and not really put in the effort i guess is the other question. The A-league could be seen as sort of a cruisy retirement for them. Any player coming over would have to have the right attitude, otherwise theyd be useless.

Van der sar would have no chance getting a start over mossy!!!!


Allegedly

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Beckham would be a bad choice, hell take away millions of the clubs funds for a few free kicks. Although If we were to snatch him up when hes too old for the big guns we might be able to drive him down to a fair prrice, then again we would probably pay 400,000 for a 42 year old has-been if we wait till then, i guess they just need to set their sites on the players who have the skill but not the publicity, they generally go for cheaper lol
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haha i was kidding about becks

Allegedly

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Good! lol, i was dreading you to come back with a counter-arguement lol
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StopOut wrote:
You mean someone to give Smeltz  advice on how to score, Danny...?


The thought had crossed my mind lol!
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Um we did. How can you forget Neil Emblem (or possibly remember...)
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Im EXTREAMLY biased but I really think Duncan Ferguson would be brilliant at the Phoenix. He would be a player that would give it everything and is a real team player. He has a huge profile and would add another few thousand seats at the stadium once the public (The others who know nothing about football)  find out his about reputation. Not only that but he would seriously put the sh*ts up the opposition. With Yellow Fever singing and Ferguson kicking shreads out them, They'd very lucky to get points in Wellington! terry and/or Ricki, if you are reading this look into it!!

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I agree. I think I even mentioned this a while ago. Duncan would scare the sh1t out of anyone in A-League. He scares me and I consider him a friend.Toffeeman2007-09-28 10:06:04

Its no longer a problem.

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Toffeeman wrote:
I agree. I think I even mentioned this a while ago. DUncan would scare the sh1t out od anyone in A-League
 
Knew I could count on you big fella!
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but he is retired, Edgar Davids isn't, so providing he doesn't retire at the end of the season and he isn't locked in contract  he could be available to us next season.
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Oh please no... no Davids
 
If your gonna sign a "vertern" get one who has just hit 30 and is unwanteed my clubs
 
Big duncan ferguson wood of bin briliant!

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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well, you have had 4412 posts, so your point must be a good one
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Cosimo wrote:

well, you have had 4412 posts, so your point must be a good one
 
lol most of them are  in SPAM UNITEd where i have a good banter with other spammers

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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We should get a striker like Robbie Fowler (aka GOD) - someone that is just an out and out goalscorer.
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Except Sydney offered him a fortune as marquee and he choose Cardiff.

Last time I checked, we had 4 imports, 23 players and a marquee.  This is pretty much useless conjecture.
Hard News2007-09-28 12:03:57

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, just think what a Edgar Davids (not too out of reach for the Phoenix selectors) could teach our defense!

 
you are aware that Edgar Davids is not a defender????????

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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How about a player with youth on his side like the awesome Eric Djemba-Djemba, one time midfield supremo for Man United?  He would stun the A-league!
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
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bigdunc wrote:
[QUOTE=Toffeeman]I agree. I think I even mentioned this a while ago. DUncan would scare the sh1t out od anyone in A-League
 
I think his criminal record might make it a bit difficult to get a work visa!
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Djemba-Djemba was useless. As for Davids, he has an immense ego and is apparently a hugely disruptive influence in the dressing room. Frankly I'd rather not see some washed up old star come down here at the tail end of their career. Such a player would just be doing it for the extra $ and the easy standard of play. Would they be really giving us there all? And even if they would, they'd be quick to turn their backs and run off again if a better offer came up (Ala Dwight).

I'd much rather see young players like Felipe with something to prove, who will fight for your team. While there is a chance that one of those big old timers could come off, the risk that they just end up an expensive flop surely outweighs the benefits.
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Eric Djemba(x2) was a colossus of the Premiership for both Man U and Aston Villa.  The A-League would not know what had hit it if he was picked up by the Phoenix.  Currently playing in Qatar, and has played at both the World Cup and African Cup of Nations.
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
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if he was a colossus as you say why did Villa send him on loan to burnley before terminating their contract with him, while Man U. only gave him 20 games across 2 seasons? OK so he'd definitely be A-League standard but his wage demand would be exorbitant (hence why he's in Qatar, he's greedy!) KTBW2007-09-28 12:44:43
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I believe he's in Qatar to be closer to Mecca for his pilgrimage rather than greed.  Alex Ferguson has made mistakes before, he let Kieran Richardson go remember.  So Djemba (x2) should grace the mighty Phoenix next year...
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
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I believe he's in Qatar to be closer to Mecca for his pilgrimage rather than greed.  Alex Ferguson has made mistakes before, he let Kieran Richardson go remember.  So Djemba (x2) should grace the mighty Phoenix next year...
 
oh.  my.  god.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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hehehe, I woulda sold Richardson as well (Giuseppe Rossi on the other hand...). And Wellington is about as far off from Mecca as you could get, I doubt he'd be too effective in the cold wellington wind. I like the thought (bring a young player with something to prove), but I don't think Djemba-Djemba specifically would be the man for us.
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Didn't you realise Kieran Richardson had left Man U?  It's gutting isn't it.  One of the finest young English players of his generation wasting his time at Sunderland.  Sorry if this has come as a shock...
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
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Have to be somebody who would still be capable of doing the business and wasn't just out to pay for the retirement home. 
 
Look at Scott Gemmill, ex International and Premiership player and he was an absolute f*****g waste of space when he came out here. (Mind you, I never rated him that highly at any stage!)
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

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, just think what a Edgar Davids (not too out of reach for the Phoenix selectors) could teach our defense!

 
you are aware that Edgar Davids is not a defender????????


I don't think he's aware of much, to be fair.

a.haak

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fergie let richardson go to sunderland cos it was keano yeh? probably wouldn't have been so quick if it was another club??


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wats eric cantona doing? Maybe PJ could hook him up with a couple of acting roles as well...


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Maybe see if we could get vinnie jones to leave his hollywood career, now he could teach our boys how to defend. get Peter Jackson to offer him a part in his newest film, and let Vinnie have a run for the nix at the same time, its a match made in heaven. By the way, if Richardson is one of the brighest stars in his generation, England are in trouble. He is Premiership quality, but not up to it at the top level. And before you say it, his goals were against the USA in a friendly

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Eric Djemba(x2) was a colossus of the Premiership for both Man U and Aston Villa.  The A-League would not know what had hit it if he was picked up by the Phoenix.  Currently playing in Qatar, and has played at both the World Cup and African Cup of Nations.
 
You are a clown - an insult to the name Cantona.  Djemba-Djemba was a joke, out of his depth at Utd, given a lifeline by Villa and soon found to be out of his depth there - he didn't look that hot at Burnley either.
 
He's played in the World Cup and African Nations Cup - big deal...  You could list of dozens of poor-to-average players who've appeared at the World Cup, in the African Nations Cup, the Copa America, etc., it doesn't make them good unless they were playing for 'top' sides.
 
As for being close to Mecca for his pilgrimage - it's not as if he has to walk from his home to Mecca... Surely it would be very easy to get on a jet from England, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Italy, or anywhere else with an established 'creditable' league, and fly to Mecca, than to play a whole season in Qatar?
 
You want an established, old head, to join the A-League as a guiding light to the others - you can have Dwight back at the end of the season, Andy Cole will be available then as well - maybe Teddy Sheringham (he doesn't appear to be interested in retiring), maybe Dietmar Hammann, Alan Stubbs (might get homesick), Danny Murphy, Ian Walker, Gary Speed, etc.
 
The truth is, as demonstrated by Kevin Muscat, a player who has wracked up a decade in the English leagues is going to have huge reserves of experience to pass on to his team-mates, to my mind every club should be looking to bring at least one in (just so long as there's room for plenty of Brasilians!!).
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, just think what a Edgar Davids (not too out of reach for the Phoenix selectors) could teach our defense!

 
you are aware that Edgar Davids is not a defender????????


Davids plays midfield, which last time i checked was also integral to defending, plus he can teach our fowards too so its a double-dipper.
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valeo wrote:
, just think what a Edgar Davids (not too out of reach for the Phoenix selectors) could teach our defense!

 
you are aware that Edgar Davids is not a defender????????


I don't think he's aware of much, to be fair.


What the f**ks your problem?
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Auckland Jag wrote:
Have to be somebody who would still be capable of doing the business and wasn't just out to pay for the retirement home. 
 
Look at Scott Gemmill, ex International and Premiership player and he was an absolute f*****g waste of space when he came out here. (Mind you, I never rated him that highly at any stage!)
 
 
Scott Gemmill was always just a premierhip squad player in a ( at the time)very average Everton team and only an international because Scotland were crap at the time.
bigdunc2007-09-28 16:45:26
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