R2 vs Perth Glory | Sun 16 Oct | 9:00pm | SS2

By your reasoning why not drop Durante, McGlinchey, Roly, Krishna........

I'm assuming you are Regan!

Right in a front three still isn't on the wing :)

Some people are nuts. We did not played flash in both games. But the stats showed we had our chances and could have scored in both games, which would have total different result. I don't like to play the luck argument, but if no trip, no penalty no counter attack, would be at least a Nil all. The whole youth think is false hope, we need seasoned pro's who can pull us out of this. Tratt and Parkhouse are already to much young potential. I hope Doyle and Fox are back (still youth full but at least played a few games at this level)

I think we score early against Sydney and then we will have good Sunday evening partying.

Number 8 we need " seasoned pros" who are up to A league standard. Unfortunatey the stats show we have suffered  6 straight loses and only had 7 wins last season, The " seasoned pros" now need to come under the microscope because clearly some are not up to it.

It's just one big revolution. , sack Greenie, Rolys fudgeed, why did we sign Guy, sharkhouse is as the names suggests, shark team, shark fans.

Fudge me the fans always know more than management and at round 2, people are seriously advocating torching the whole thing. Just amazing.

I'm just sick of all the f'ing negativity world wide. Everything is doom and gloom all the time and it's bloody well depressing. The world is going to crap, why can't there just be a little positivitiy around my football team? Is that too much to ask?

I am totally sick of losing so a Phoenix win should create a lot positivilty.

We will beat Sydney. Rant over

Fox is nowhere near Durante's class. 

We have lost 100% of the games we have played this season.

n = 2. Terrible sample size.

But if you create a pattern from what we have it goes L,L,L,L,L,L,L,L,L,L,L,L

Now n = 12 and that's a less terrible sample size.  

Sorry I thought that's how we do the forums, negativity.  Thought to be fair I can understand the negativity a bit with two losses out of the gate, but its a long race so we have plenty of time to win.

1 loss missing half our team to international duty. 

1 loss where half our team travelled after playing 2 games halfway around the world, to play another game in Perth. 

I don't understand the negativity at all. 

It's been more than a season of the same problems, you go back to when SFC beat us 3-0 at home when we were top of the league - what has changed in the process that gives you confidence? The same issues surfaced again against Perth, you could probably dig up comments on here after that SFC game and apply them to games like we had against Perth (and Jets, CCM, Perth etc. last year). 

We have had 8 wins since that SFC game. 

"you go back to when we were top of the league" isn't a great argument that we should be all doom and gloom...

Don't be flippant. That was more than a season ago, 35 games. That game clearly laid out issues with the team's process/tactics/structure that has been taken advantage of in many games since then - we need to evolve to still be competitive.

it's 2 games into the season. I reserve the right to be flippant. 

really? Conan wrote about 1000 words explaining it really well

i'm sick to death of people coming to these forums to moan about people moaning

This forum is terrible to masty to.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Phoenix doing badly = Users at Phoenix forum won't be happy.

Phoenix doing well = Users at Phoenix forum will be happy.

Am I missing something? Doesn't seem hard to grasp. Once we win a few and look different to what we have been then there'll be a lot of positivity in this forum, I guarantee it.

You're new here, aren't you? :p

There are issues with tactics that have seen teams able to make it hard for us to create chances, sitting deep looking to counter us. Many games last season followed this pattern, even going back to the end of the previous season, and it was similar against Perth.

Getting better players may allow Ernie to better implement the tactics he wants to employ.

How often we give the ball away so easily is a major concern for me and it starts with Moss and finishes with the 10 players in front of him doing the same. High punts from a goalkeeper make it a 50/50 chance of winning except when our very short forwards (Except Watson) try to out jump the big 6'4" defenders. Although Krishna does give it a go.

See: Hudson, Anthony

Don't want to sound harsh - but Ernie has had 3 seasons to get the players he wants. If he doesn't have the players, he needs to modify his tactics. Not rocket science.