Wellington Phoenix Men

R20 vs Melbourne City | Sat 18th Feb | 7:35pm | RoF

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about 9 years ago

ConanTroutman wrote:

I'm not convinced that on paper we do have that good of a squad. Sure, we have some good players but I don't think we're close to the top sides in that regard. And even with the players we have there's a difference between having good players and having a good squad. A good squad implies players that complement each other and that make sense as a cohesive whole - and we definitely don't have that. We can't fit all our supposed star players on the pitch at once without having guys out of position or playing a weird formation, or both.

not as good as Sydney or Victory or City no. But it's better than the Mariners and Jets, and on par with everyone else except maybe Brisbane which might be a fraction better. I agree with the formation issues, and if there is an issue, I think it's that we have the same number of 'stars' as any other side, but the backup squad members probably aren't as good as some of the other sides. Even still, just two extra wins at this stage would have us right in the mix, which is frustrating.

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about 9 years ago

yellowsite wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Though at a time when Sydney and Victory were honking. City were heart. And WSW didn't exist.

CCM was a "big" team then.

In what sense? IIRC they didn't have marquees and were spending within the cap. My memory is didgy though

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about 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

yellowsite wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Though at a time when Sydney and Victory were honking. City were heart. And WSW didn't exist.

CCM was a "big" team then.

In what sense? IIRC they didn't have marquees and were spending within the cap. My memory is didgy though

Yeah that's what I thought too

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Though at a time when Sydney and Victory were honking. City were heart. And WSW didn't exist.

He still had a lot of talent in his squads - the season CCM won the championship was the season WSW won the premiership and he still coached CCM another season. That season was also Victory with Ange and Marco winning the Johnny Warren.

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about 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

I should have explained that better.  Given the number of exceptions now available, it's going to be very difficult for team outside of the two Sydney and Melbourne sides to win the league. So even if you had the best coach at a lower resourced team, your chances of doing what Arnold did at CCM aren't as good. Really need to have some of those big four teams to have bad seasons (like that did when CCM were good).

Fair, but I think that there is still a chance for a well drilled and balanced team to do better than a team of grab bag marquees, but I agree it will be harder than it was

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 9 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

yellowsite wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

Though at a time when Sydney and Victory were honking. City were heart. And WSW didn't exist.

CCM was a "big" team then.

In what sense? IIRC they didn't have marquees and were spending within the cap. My memory is didgy though

In terms of success and the respect they earnt.

A fan is a fan.

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about 9 years ago

Is Codhill coming over and if so what sort of reception does he deserve?

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 9 years ago

In Ray Columbus's words...
He's a cod, he's a cod,

he's a cod, yeh yeh yeh

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

See both Singh and Ridenton in the lineup. http://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/photo-gallery/wel...

Moss, Tratt, Roly, Lowry, Fox, A-Rod, Kosta, WeeMac, Watson, Parkhouse, Rossi, Lia, Doyle, Italiano, Krishna, Ridenton, Singh and Smeltz.

Durante is out due to five yellow cards ban and Finkler is away for two weeks in Brazil due to birth of his daughter.

Edit: missed Tratt and WeeMac

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Yakcall wrote:

See both Singh and Ridenton in the lineup. http://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/photo-gallery/wel...

Moss, Roly, Lowry, Fox, A-Rod, Kosta, Watson, Parkhouse, Rossi, Lia, Doyle, Italiano, Krishna, Ridenton, Singh and Smeltz.

Durante is out due to five yellow cards ban and Finkler is away for two weeks in Brazil due to birth of his daughter.

I wish they would just post the team news on one slide.

Singh and Ridenton in for McG and Tratt I guess. Injured?

Edit: Tratt and Mcg added now. They weren't on the list when it was first posted!

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Yeah it's frustrating the slide thing but appears to be an A-league #Metric. Fenton out with injury.

Tratt and WeeMac are listed

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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about 9 years ago

Tratt, Durante out, plus Rossi potentially.

Does not bode well!

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about 9 years ago

Singh  has the potential to be top class. I would love for him to get a decent run against Melbourne as he is good enough. 

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about 9 years ago

whatever wrote:

Singh  has the potential to be top class. I would love for him to get a decent run against Melbourne as he is good enough. 


I'm pretty sure I heard from Dura on the Pod was that he has a lot of promise, but he would get bullied in the A-League in terms of his physicality. Would definitely like to see him get a chance eventually though. 

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about 9 years ago

He does look confident on the ball though and has skills and pace   #nixlevel

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about 9 years ago

Myself, I'm really excited about Riddenton. Wish he would get his chance, feel like he would do well for us in a midfield/attacking midfield role. Singh is young and has plenty of time, but I am very excited about him as well.



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about 9 years ago

Jaickin wrote:

whatever wrote:

Singh  has the potential to be top class. I would love for him to get a decent run against Melbourne as he is good enough. 


I'm pretty sure I heard from Dura on the Pod was that he has a lot of promise, but he would get bullied in the A-League in terms of his physicality. Would definitely like to see him get a chance eventually though. 

I am sure he will handle himself well as he is up to it.

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about 9 years ago

http://www.a-league.com.au/matchcentre/Wellington-Phoenix-v-Melbourne-City-FC/854421?matchpreview#widget-match-day-tabs

MATCH DETAILS

Saturday, 18 February 2017

Wellington Phoenix v Melbourne City FC

Westpac Stadium, Wellington

Kick-Off: 7:35PM (Local) (5:35PM (AEDT))

Referee: Jonathan Barreiro

Assistant Referee 1: Simon Lount

Assistant Referee 2: Sarah Jones

Fourth Official: Ben Abraham

Wellington Phoenix squad: 1.Glen MOSS (gk), 2.Jacob TRATT, 4.Roly BONEVACIA, 5.Ryan LOWRY, 6.Dylan FOX, 8.Alex RODRIGUEZ, 9.Kosta BARBAROUSES, 10.Michael McGLINCHEY, 11.Hamish WATSON, 12.Adam PARKHOUSE, 13.Marco ROSSI, 17.Vince LIA (c), 19.Tom DOYLE, 20.Lewis ITALIANO (gk), 21.Roy KRISHNA, 23.Matthew RIDENTON, 25.Sarpreet SINGH, 99.Shane SMELTZ

**two to be omitted**

Ins: 12.Adam PARKHOUSE (promoted), 13.Marco ROSSI (returns from injury), 25.Sarpreet SINGH (promoted), 99.Shane SMELTZ (returns from suspension)

Outs: 7.Gui FINKLER (suspended - 1 match), 22.Andrew DURANTE (suspended – 1 match)

Unavailable: Nil

Melbourne City FC squad: 1.Thomas SORENSEN (gk), 2.Manny MUSCAT, 3.Josh ROSE, 6.Osama MALIK, 8.Neil KILKENNY, 9.Nicolas COLAZO, 10.Anthony CACERES, 11.Bruce KAMAU, 12.Nick FITZGERALD, 17.Tim CAHILL, 18.Paulo RETRE, 21.Ruon TONGYIK, 23.Bruno FORNAROLI (c), 26.Luke BRATTAN, 27.Fernando BRANDAN, 34.Denis GENREAU, 36.Dylan PIERIAS, 40.Yaren SOZER (gk)

**two to be omitted**

Ins: 2.Manny MUSCAT (returns from suspension), 6.Osama MALIK (returns from suspension), 17.Tim CAHILL (returns from suspension), 23.Bruno FORNAROLI (returns from suspension), 26.Luke BRATTAN (returns from suspension), 27.Fernando BRANDAN (returns from suspension)

Outs: 14.Daniel ARZANI (omitted), 29.Braeydn CROWLEY (omitted), 35.Christian CAVALLO (omitted), 41.Yusuf AHMED (omitted)

Unavailable: 5.Ivan FRANJIC (knee - 1 week), 7.Corey GAMEIRO (ACL - season), 22.Michael JAKOBSEN (calf - 1 week), 20.Dean BOUZANIS (gk) (suspended - 4 matches), 28.Steve KUZMANOVSKI (ACL - season)

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about 9 years ago

What's our record with this ref?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 9 years ago

Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

What's our record with this ref?

P1 W0 D0 L1

He was the ref when we lost late to the Roar the other week

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about 9 years ago

Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

What's our record with this ref opposition team?

What really matters

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 9 years ago

What sort of reception do we give Codhill?

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 9 years ago

holeinone wrote:

my club from wanganui river city fc are doing a club trip to the game,they are staying at the backpackers by the railway station, not sure how many are going i would say 2 or 3 van loads.

 

Ooooohhhh boy. Wanganui coming in hot.

Cross fingers for a good Zone. Some of the Fever are involved in stag-type shenanigans too.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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about 9 years ago

Looks like another Wellington summer day. Rain.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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about 9 years ago

Jaickin wrote:

whatever wrote:

Singh  has the potential to be top class. I would love for him to get a decent run against Melbourne as he is good enough. 


I'm pretty sure I heard from Dura on the Pod was that he has a lot of promise, but he would get bullied in the A-League in terms of his physicality. Would definitely like to see him get a chance eventually though. 

they said that about George best
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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Since we beat victory and played very well, we have been pretty sh-ite. I can't explain it, but somehow we need to get into a positive mindset and attack. We are crap when we dwell on the ball and start passing it backwards, we achieve nothing. Midfield has to move it quicker and move it forwards and everyone has to at least try and get it near smeltz more, cos we ain't using him correctly at all. 

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Smithy wrote:

holeinone wrote:

my club from wanganui river city fc are doing a club trip to the game,they are staying at the backpackers by the railway station, not sure how many are going i would say 2 or 3 van loads.

 

Ooooohhhh boy. Wanganui coming in hot.

Cross fingers for a good Zone. Some of the Fever are involved in stag-type shenanigans too.

they are going to stokes valley club rooms for drinks, then into town i told them to visit the backbencher for pre game drinks on their way to the stadium.

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about 9 years ago

Fenix wrote:

Since we beat victory and played very well, we have been pretty sh-ite. I can't explain it, but somehow we need to get into a positive mindset and attack. We are crap when we dwell on the ball and start passing it backwards, we achieve nothing. Midfield has to move it quicker and move it forwards and everyone has to at least try and get it near smeltz more, cos we ain't using him correctly at all. 

Victory were dog-tired from their previous game and did not rotate their team much. We played well against a tired team.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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about 9 years ago

We had a short turn around as well.

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about 9 years ago

bennie99 wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

I'm not convinced that on paper we do have that good of a squad. Sure, we have some good players but I don't think we're close to the top sides in that regard. And even with the players we have there's a difference between having good players and having a good squad. A good squad implies players that complement each other and that make sense as a cohesive whole - and we definitely don't have that. We can't fit all our supposed star players on the pitch at once without having guys out of position or playing a weird formation, or both.

not as good as Sydney or Victory or City no. But it's better than the Mariners and Jets, and on par with everyone else except maybe Brisbane which might be a fraction better. I agree with the formation issues, and if there is an issue, I think it's that we have the same number of 'stars' as any other side, but the backup squad members probably aren't as good as some of the other sides. Even still, just two extra wins at this stage would have us right in the mix, which is frustrating.

It really isn't a good squad. Unproven youngsters, has-beens and under-performing 'stars'. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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about 9 years ago
Game day. I lost all my positivity. We get trashed. And if people hope some phoenix youngster will show up and win the game for us, you will be disappointed, too. 0:3 for the Melbourne Heart
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about 9 years ago

Codhill hattrick? That would be the icing on the cake to ensure our co coaches did not get their contracts renewed surely.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 9 years ago

number8 wrote:
Game day. I lost all my positivity. We get trashed. And if people hope some phoenix youngster will show up and win the game for us, you will be disappointed, too. 0:3 for the Melbourne Heart

We simply are not good enough and I am tired of watching very average journey men and under performing "stars" so I would rather have a young, hungry player with lots of potential on the field.

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about 9 years ago

whatever wrote:

number8 wrote:
Game day. I lost all my positivity. We get trashed. And if people hope some phoenix youngster will show up and win the game for us, you will be disappointed, too. 0:3 for the Melbourne Heart

We simply are not good enough and I am tired of watching very average journey men and under performing "stars" so I would rather have a young, hungry player with lots of potential on the field.

eleven of them.
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about 9 years ago

Never forget

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about 9 years ago · edited about 9 years ago · History

Mainland FC wrote:

Fenix wrote:

Since we beat victory and played very well, we have been pretty sh-ite. I can't explain it, but somehow we need to get into a positive mindset and attack. We are crap when we dwell on the ball and start passing it backwards, we achieve nothing. Midfield has to move it quicker and move it forwards and everyone has to at least try and get it near smeltz more, cos we ain't using him correctly at all. 

Victory were dog-tired from their previous game and did not rotate their team much. We played well against a tired team.

Its funny if we lose and say it's too hot then we're making excuses, if we win then we make excuses for the other team...

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about 9 years ago

leaving in the next half hour, as usual a lovely day in wanganui, well overcast and warm, bringing an extra pair of pants and shirt for the ride home just in case the forecast is correct.

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