I Have wondered why no one in New Zealand has done a documentary or reality show on a younfg footballer in new Zealand. Great way to market the club, (being one to choose from).But also could mirror the Australian version of the Football superstar.
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Costs. Money.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Isn't this what the retro ricky thing is/has the potential to be
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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I imagine it would take a bit of money to set that up, it would be for the best though, give the chance for the players to be seen rather than just selected on who has the more friends etc like the Reto ricki is.
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of course everything costs money.. but a club doesn't survive with out the next generation of players. However in New Zealand we seem to have excuses why something cannot be achieved..
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Who do you want to fund it though?
Football superstar was funded by Fox and through sponsorship. And the clubs were just in an agreement with the company to give the winners a spot. No money was paid by Melbourne or Sydney.
If SKY or TV3 wanted to do something like this, thats up to them.
Do you want the club to run their own tv show?
The club lost 1.5 Million in the last season. Just from the competition.Stefan2010-04-21 22:01:28
Football superstar was funded by Fox and through sponsorship. And the clubs were just in an agreement with the company to give the winners a spot. No money was paid by Melbourne or Sydney.
If SKY or TV3 wanted to do something like this, thats up to them.
Do you want the club to run their own tv show?
The club lost 1.5 Million in the last season. Just from the competition.Stefan2010-04-21 22:01:28
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Maybe you could sell all your aleague gear and fund it Stefan? Or pull some strings with your aleague/JB strings
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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of course everything costs money.. but a club doesn't survive with out the next generation of players. However in New Zealand we seem to have excuses why something cannot be achieved..
You can develop players without making a TV show. I doubt it would be very successful unfortunately in NZ anyway, as much as I would love it. Besides, football superstar didn't unearth any real gems and I'd rather we had a proper youth setup/side before we started worrying about making a show about it.
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of course everything costs money.. but a club doesn't survive with out the next generation of players. However in New Zealand we seem to have excuses why something cannot be achieved..
football superstar didn't unearth any real gems.
Just as a quick note.
http://www.perthglory.com.au/default.aspx?s=aleague_profile&pid=1719&tid=1
Plus, Luke Pilkington has done very well for Victory Youth.
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let's face it. apart from us losers, who the hell is going to watch that?!
besides, reality shows have lowered TV standards even more. they all run on a script, they're a disgraceful invention of the late 1990's.
besides, reality shows have lowered TV standards even more. they all run on a script, they're a disgraceful invention of the late 1990's.
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I Have wondered why no one in New Zealand has done a documentary or reality show on a younfg footballer in new Zealand. Great way to market the club, (being one to choose from).But also could mirror the Australian version of the Football superstar.
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the point was to show at the moment it is an untapped market. No one said the thing had to be linked to New Zealand, it could include the pacific islands ie vanuatu, etc. The thing doesn't have to be a big production and could be of a different format.
The point is getting the next generation into a team or system where it benefits the club.
At the moment our young players (Costa being the latest) leave to gain game time and experience. Who is next Marcus (as he gets very little game time)?
A club will not survive on a diet of 28 year old journey men signed from the lower english leagues.
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What's an untapped market? New Zealand youth players are an untapped player market or football reality shows are an untapped TV market?
Im not sure how running a reality TV show in the pacific islands would help Costa or Marco much?
I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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How is winning a telly reality show going to get young players game time and experience?
You seem to have made the huge jump from one youngster winning the chance of a contract somehwere to the setting up a whole infrastructure to feed our squad, for years to come. Hmm, I think Smithy has just about summed it up in the last line of the post above this.
As for journeymen from lower English leagues....do you mean like Paul Ifill and Shane Smeltz?
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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It doesn't develop players at all by having a reality tv show, the whole point is seeing younger players skills and getting a chance for the rest of New Zealand to see how good these players are. A great example is the current retro ricki scholarship, the winners could just be players who have the most friends. if I live in Nelson I'm not going to know how good a teenager in Auckland is if I've never seen him play, but a football superstar reality show would give me the chance as a viewer plus give Ricki a chance to see players he may not have seen before. It won't develop but could help them get noticed.
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Ricki is the National Team coach. He's like Santa Claus...he know everything about all the kids in the country but not in a Seb Rhyll kind of way!!!! C-Diddy2010-04-22 14:50:59
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Maybe the next U19 WC should be run by Mark Burnett?... Survivor: Football
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Ricki is the National Team coach. He's like Santa Claus...he know everything about all the kids in the country but not in a Seb Rhyll kind of way!!!!
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I do know what I am talking about.
pompey 6572010-04-23 14:37:14
The youth system is untapped. Not the reality show (perhaps drop the word reality). A reality show is just one suggestion. It serves three purposes
and if you actually understood business or marketing then your comments would reflect so.
The pacific islands are a vast untapped area, in terms of professional pathways in Football, so it broadens the appeal of the club (being the SOLE professional club in Oceania), if it is an area that the club wish to consider. I never said to film it there, but to look at youngsters from that area. (Didn't one play for France and won a world cup?).
Don't Marconi Stallions have a similar schemes with African players?
The juniors that are signed need games or they seek other pastures hence the comment re Costa and Marcus. A professional footballers career span is on average 10-12 years.
The general public get the opportunity to see the workings of the club and perhaps what it takes to make the grade. (Did anyone remember Vince Hillare's Documentary when he signed for Crystal Palace)?
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I do know what I am talking about.
The youth system is untapped. Not the reality show (perhaps drop the word reality). A reality show is just one suggestion. It serves three purposes
and if you actually understood business or marketing then your comments would reflect so.
The pacific islands are a vast untapped area, in terms of professional pathways in Football, so it broadens the appeal of the club (being the SOLE professional club in Oceania), if it is an area that the club wish to consider. I never said to film it there, but to look at youngsters from that area. (Didn't one play for France and won a world cup?).
Don't Marconi Stallions have a similar schemes with African players?
The juniors that are signed need games or they seek other pastures hence the comment re Costa and Marcus. A professional footballers career span is on average 10-12 years.
The general public get the opportunity to see the workings of the club and perhaps what it takes to make the grade. (Did anyone remember Vince Hillare's Documentary when he signed for Crystal Palace)?
Given your unparalleled understanding of business and marketing... where is the budget coming from, and how is revenue being generated? What audiences do you think will be generated? And what advertisers will pay to reach them? Who exactly does it broaden the appeal of the club do and who benefits, and how? And, again, how and where does/will/can this generate revenues for said club and/or investors. What broader impacts are there for the game in the region? Can these players be offered a pathway through the Phoenix? So, again, where are the financial benefits? Are there sporting benefits?... Are there social benefits?... this sport is a business - as I'm sure your more than well aware given your aforementioned understanding of business and marketing.
Please enlighten less informed heathens such as myself. And given I, and possibly others, don't possess experience and qualifications around business and marketing that you clearly do - I'd appreciate it if you could speak slowly and use words of no more than three syllables.
Did you enter The Apprentice?
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Hopefully you also have a substantial understanding of taking the p!ss.
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Hopefully you also have a substantial understanding of taking the p!ss.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Does anyone know what happened to that 19 year old guy who won the Aussie Superstar of football comp and got a contract with Sydney FC? Saw the final on Sky last night. Was old coz Cosmina was still coaching Syd
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i dont think it'd be a ratings winner. you're better off spending the hundreds of thousands it'd cost to do on youth programs (no the television ones the other on field ones)like others have suggested.
if you really think its a goer:
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/816460/823846
write out a proposal, the tvnz one would be a good template, tote it around some production companies see if anyone is keen
if you really think its a goer:
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/816460/823846
write out a proposal, the tvnz one would be a good template, tote it around some production companies see if anyone is keen
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NZ has a much smaller viewing audience than Australia. And tho Phoenix is drawing the big crowds in and the all whites piggy-backed on that somewhat many of those crowds consist of the football illiterate like me.
I might attend Phoenix games and take an interest in the world cup but I'll never be football mad and wd rather watch x-games on tv than the inner workings of a club (and particularly see stupid vodaphone re-sponser them in Wgtn instd of dumb Homegrown which consist of bands that many of us see all the time anyway)
I might attend Phoenix games and take an interest in the world cup but I'll never be football mad and wd rather watch x-games on tv than the inner workings of a club (and particularly see stupid vodaphone re-sponser them in Wgtn instd of dumb Homegrown which consist of bands that many of us see all the time anyway)
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Does anyone know what happened to that 19 year old guy who won the Aussie Superstar of football comp and got a contract with Sydney FC? Saw the final on Sky last night. Was old coz Cosmina was still coaching Syd
Got injured. Then Kossie decided that he didn't want him.
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The pacific islands are a vast untapped area, in terms of professional pathways in Football, so it broadens the appeal of the club (being the SOLE professional club in Oceania), if it is an area that the club wish to consider. I never said to film it there, but to look at youngsters from that area. (Didn't one play for France and won a world cup?).
Don't Marconi Stallions have a similar schemes with African players?
I don't buy this theory about the Pacific Islands. In Africa, kids grow up playing football on the streets at any chance they get. In the Pacific Islands they spend all their time playing rugby. They might have a number of the physical attributes required to become top class footballers, but culture and society dictates that they are not going to spend the hours and hours playing football in their youth that gives them that natural touch and awareness on the field that you also need.
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