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Referees and the W word

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Referees and the W word
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The yellow fever support was awesome yesterday. 
 
The only sour note was the singing of "the referee is a w$#@^r".   For a few seconds, we sounded like some Aussie yobs at the MCG.  Does this help the team?  While some referees may be blind, I haven't come across many that are deaf.  Winding up a referee from across the ditch may work against the team.  Also, if the Phoenix is to be financially viable long term, it's going to have to build a solid foundation of family support. We don't want to give  mums and dads a reason for not taking their kids to the stadium to support our team.  Surely there a few wags in the yellow fever support who can come up with a witty song or two (or word of two), when we want to let off steam at the referee (eg, Skippy the blind kangaroo).
 
 
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That's a fair suck of the saveloy Billy...I'm sure the lads at YF will think of something, but damn, ain't it just so catchy and easy?...
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haha it's catchy and easy, but how bout something a bit more tasteful and witty (and clean!) like this: "I'm blind! i'm deaf! i wanna be a ref!" Anyone st apts boys will surely know the beat of this one
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Some of the language was disgusting in parts of the ground, we had a bunch of uneducated guys behind us using c words, f words and just being obnoxious idiots, I hope security have their ears and eyes open in the future!! 
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Part of our goal is to create an intimidating atmosphere - as a spokesperson for the club told us, our team get abuse hurled at them everywhere they go, so we need to return the favour.  To create that atmosphere, sometimes we need to use the occasional swear word.
 
I don't imagine that it will stop too many kids coming to the games, as I think that most parents are aware of the fact that kids hear all these words in the playgrounds anyway.
 
I'm sure that there is a few swear words in the Victory supporters chants, and they're getting over 40,000 to some games.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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I cant say i heard much different than a standard rugby game to be honest
 
maybe they should set up a dedicated family aisle
 
 
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wat about the i'm blind I'm def one! any thoughts people???!!!
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I like it ... and I don't believe it's necessary to be a yob to be intimidating ... that's just crass. Smith2007-08-27 13:58:22
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Ahhhh - sorry, but you've been redirected to the following web sites for emotion education...
 
 
 
That's a shame...
 
 
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mannyluke wrote:
Some of the language was disgusting in parts of the ground, we�had a bunch of�uneducated guys behind us using c words,�f words and just being�obnoxious idiots, I hope security have their ears and eyes open in the future!!�


Understand what you're saying as I take my kids to the game, however.. that's football.

When I used to go to games on my own, I used to do a fair old bit of effing and blinding and whilst I am a tad more restrained these days, it is difficult to keep the emotions in check sometimes...

Anyway, it's possible you all mis-heard. I thought the YF were just telling us where the ref was from...

The referee's from Wanaka...!
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i think that we should go with kiwikoppas chant its catchy and not rude
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One of the boys I roll along with was kind enough to apologise in advance to the people sitting in front of us prior to kick off. Turned out that theywere just as colourful in their choice of language as we were.
 
Don't really think we'll have much problem in the YF zone with having to worry about offending the more sensitive types.
 
BTW, if security booted people our for a bit of harmless swearing, you can kiss goodbye to most of the YF crew I'd imagine, and be left with a nice, polite, non-threatening stadium.
 
 
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yer thats true
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hell13 wrote:
i think that we should go with kiwikoppas chant its catchy and not rude
 
Its also predictable and boring.
 
And its hardly less rude, the w word is a pretty tame swear word.
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The c word's a bit too far tho mate. I hate getting 'What's a c*** mum?' in the middle of a match. It's like getting 'He's not really gay is he mummy?' The f****t word is a no-no too thanks boys.

Blind and deaf but he's our ref is alright. We love a good stomping chant round our place ;)

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It's footy, emotions run high and people get fired up. Always gonna happen, and not much you can do.
 
I do understand that having kids subjected to that would be uncomfortable though, and I know how annoying obnoxious and genuinely rude people in the crowd can spoil things for some people.
 
The majority of chants were good natured though, and the ref was a w@nker...
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A dedicated family area makes a lot more sense than censoring the chants.  If you tame the chants so much that the YF section sounds like some girl scout troupe on parade it does take the sting out a little bit.

It's mandatory in the premiership and championship for clubs to offer family friendly (no drinking/swearing/standing) sections in the ground.  Although ticketek would almost certainly f**k it up.

The other thing is, it's not like the ground was chock full.  If your kids are hearing things they shouldn't, then move.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Yeah but why should I have to?

I don't like that word, I shouldn't have to hear it myself. And why should I have to give up the seat I paid for to move away cos some knob can't keep his gob shut?!
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hell13 wrote:
i think that we should go with kiwikoppas chant its catchy and not rude
 
Its also predictable and boring.
 
And its hardly less rude, the w word is a pretty tame swear word.
 
wat? the ref's a w***** isn't predictable?! you'll find the crowd will respond more to my chant than this cheap refs a w***** chant.
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freedom of speech is a right c*nt...

sorry, couldn't resist...
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oh and just a note on the ref. I thought he was pretty much spot on with most of his calls....
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That logic is fairly circular...

Conversely, why should that knob have to keep his mouth shut just because you think he should?

By way of example, my family and I had some lads sitting behind us who started off a bit rough on the language (I'm not very prudish but my elderly rellies have lower tolerance levels and were a bit put out).  We glared and muttered a bit and they quietened down, and in the end were really good fun. 

But if they hadn't sorted themselves out then it was our option to move.  They were under no obligation to please us with what they chanted, it's a free country.

Why do you think everyone owes you and your kids a duty to use language that you condone?

Family-friendly area is the solution.  Opposite end of ground from YF section, with alcohol, swearing and whatever else upsets the little tackers banned, and a few neon-clad wardens to enforce same.

Guy.
smithy2462007-08-27 14:38:17

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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You can't legislate this, none of it is co-ordinated.  One person starts it, a couple join in and a chants away.  People don't sit there and think 'oh, I can't use that' it just happens organically.

Talk about it all you want here but if you want something else to catch on you need to start it before someone else starts something else.

Hell, i want the 'you're sh*t agggghhhh' when the keeper kicks banned for life but I know that all it needs is one person to start it in a fortnight and 50 people will do it, that's just the nature of the beast.

It's not like the whole game is scripted.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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kiwikoppa wrote:
hell13 wrote:
i think that we should go with kiwikoppas chant its catchy and not rude
 
Its also predictable and boring.
 
And its hardly less rude, the w word is a pretty tame swear word.
 
wat? the ref's a w***** isn't predictable?! you'll find the crowd will respond more to my chant than this cheap refs a w***** chant.
 
I guarantee if you go to any rugby game the "blind and deaf" chant will get started at least 9 times, each time with apporoximately 4 people joining in.
 
Family zone is a much better idea.
 
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No swearing at sporting events - Yeah right 
Family zone is the answer.
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kiwikoppa wrote:
hell13 wrote:
i think that we should go with kiwikoppas chant its catchy and not rude
 
Its also predictable and boring.
 
And its hardly less rude, the w word is a pretty tame swear word.
 
wat? the ref's a w***** isn't predictable?! you'll find the crowd will respond more to my chant than this cheap refs a w***** chant.
 
I guarantee if you go to any rugby game the "blind and deaf" chant will get started at least 9 times, each time with apporoximately 4 people joining in.
 
Family zone is a much better idea.
 
 
touche, but just as equally I could guarantee you that you could go to any sports ground in the world for any sport and they'd be using the w***** chant. except for maybe japan. very respectful!
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Further to my example in prev. post my family have all said they will come again but they'll probably sit in different seats.  They love the YF lads but it's a bit much for them to be stood in amongst it.

On reflection though I can see your point BlueBoots...you've paid for a seat and other people shouldn't impact your enjoyment of the game.  Hence the family zone...then you know what you're buying into.

The ref was a w**ker anyway.  Best ref in the comp my arse.  Throw Jamie Cross on there.

Guy.
smithy2462007-08-27 14:45:43

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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BlueBoots wrote:
Yeah but why should I have to?

I don't like that word, I shouldn't have to hear it myself. And why should I have to give up the seat I paid for to move away cos some knob can't keep his gob shut?!



 the yellow fever zone was set up for that sort of carry on  we paid for our seats too and we all went to that area knowing it was going to be  rowdy and obnoxious and to keep it in one area

 why should we stop ?  we aren't inciting violence (YET) 

 





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Kiwikoppa why don't you get a posse along to the next game and see if you can get your new chant to catch on.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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out of interest. how many of you have officiated games to a decent level, say at the least cap 1 or 2? or even indoor? not an easy job.
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the aussie v nz one dayer had a family zone, and they had a guy checking tickets as you went into the aisle. wouldn't take much to organise, call it 'The Nest' or soemthing like that for all young fans who have sensitive ears
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kiwikoppa wrote:
hell13 wrote:
i think that we should go with kiwikoppas chant its catchy and not rude
 
Its also predictable and boring.
 
And its hardly less rude, the w word is a pretty tame swear word.
 
wat? the ref's a w***** isn't predictable?! you'll find the crowd will respond more to my chant than this cheap refs a w***** chant.
 
start it at the next game, then.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
a swearing thread!
 
you've arrived! a thread of this nature after the first match of the season is actually part of the a-league charter.  
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I think we had a similar discussion 3 months back.
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smithy246 wrote:
Kiwikoppa why don't you get a posse along to the next game and see if you can get your new chant to catch on.
 
haha would love to aye! for anyone who may have gone to the tall blacks game last game against venezuela that was me and my crazy flatmate trying to spark up the crowd chants for that one!
 
don't know how many games I'll make cos of church haha. yes football is a religion, but gotta pay my respects most sundays!
 
having said that, apparently it's too predictable and boring to catch on
 
 
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kiwikoppa wrote:
out of interest. how many of you have officiated games to a decent level, say at the least cap 1 or 2? or even indoor? not an easy job.
 
So you agree its a hard job, but still want to call him blind and deaf. Right.
 
Everybody knows its a hard job, but drunken football hooligans don't care.
 
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I know one senior ref in Wellington who I suspect was giving Mr. Sheilds advice all game from the Fever Zone.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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kiwikoppa wrote:
out of interest. how many of you have officiated games to a decent level, say at the least cap 1 or 2? or even indoor? not an easy job.
 
So you agree its a hard job, but still want to call him blind and deaf. Right.
 
Everybody knows its a hard job, but drunken football hooligans don't care.
 
 
think you're taking post A and post B, and trying to see if they add up to equal C or something mate.
 
you'll have to show me where I mentioned that I think we shouldn't be allowed to chant against refs.
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and if we're going to get into semantics, then I'd be calling my self blind and deaf and promoting myself as an ideal candidate to be a ref. not really calling anyone anything at all...
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