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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yep Tigers, you got that right. But did the rferees whistle blow a fraction before he scored??
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
True but amazingly you dont seem to see the same decisions happening in games involving 2 Australian teams.


Well actually I do.

The same attitudes and conspiracy theories are held by Warriors fans in the NRL, and it is just immaturity in my opinion.

By all means give the ref as much abuse as you want during the game, but for guys to come on here and week after week blame the referee's is poor, particuarly considering that we have had opposition players sent off against us for three consecutive weeks.
 
it doesnt happen every week - get your facts right. I dont think people having a prob with the ref being Aussie. The kiwi linesman had a shocker the other week and i will give him stick.
Anyway enough about the reffing. Its out of our hands

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Denis, no smoke without fire and there has been one constant this season. Yes our players mess up and yes we are the authors of our own demise but it doesn't help when we get about 5% of the 50/50 CALLS. and about 30% of the calls that really should have gone our way. The Players sent off against us got it because it was so blatent. Think about the number that should have gone but didn't. we're no angels either bt the card stats show we are getting our share of punishments too.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm certainly not blaming the referee for us losing. We weren't good enough, end of story.

Think it's a natural reaction tho', to look at big decisions which might have gone our way which may have had a bearing on the game and there were some talking points last night, the 'penalty', the disallowed goal, the Adelaide player not getting a second yellow for chopping Daniel late in the 2nd half.....

It's football, referees are an easy target to take your frustration out on.  Auckland Jag2007-12-01 13:10:54

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
efne the aussie commnetator just said, dead set pen for the foul on felipe!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We cant lay all the blame on the ref but some of his calls were just bullsh*t.Like when he didnt give a 2nd yellow in the 2nd half after daniel was ripped down,looked  like he didnt want to reduce them to 9 men.
Just bloody annoying that for the 3rd week in a row we cant take advantage against 10.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When is a penalty not a penalty? when you have to awrd it to the Phoenix!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The disallowed goal was one thing, but missing the penalty for Felipe was worse.  I also have to seriously question the refereeing when two Adelaide defenders (one I believe was on a yellow) come across late in the game in injury game from memory for cynical late, professional fouls when the game was opening game - yet neither, despite being cynical professional fouls cops cards, I don't even know if they copped a warning.

We lost the game on our own accord, but that bloke really should consider refereeing rugby union.  He's about their standard.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:
a few poor decisions. Why didnt that get get carded when he took out Daniel on the left touchline in the second half? Prob cos he already had a yellow and the ref had no balls
 
That's one of the ones I'm talking about.  Daniel was in the clear, heading towards the by line, with men streaming towards the box, the guy comes in only to collect Daniel, is on a yellow, and is not given another yellow.  That was a red to my way of thinking for how cynical it was and the intent with which it was delivered - the bloke was there for one reason, to do whatever, including illegally, to stop Daniel.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
this topics getting a bit heated the a league really needs to look at bringing in some more reliable refs there are some that are good and some that pull out shockers
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The(O)Dor wrote:
Feverish wrote:
a few poor decisions. Why didnt that get get carded when he took out Daniel on the left touchline in the second half? Prob cos he already had a yellow and the ref had no balls
 
That's one of the ones I'm talking about.  Daniel was in the clear, heading towards the by line, with men streaming towards the box, the guy comes in only to collect Daniel, is on a yellow, and is not given another yellow.  That was a red to my way of thinking for how cynical it was and the intent with which it was delivered - the bloke was there for one reason, to do whatever, including illegally, to stop Daniel.


correct me if i'm wrong (i haven't seen the replay) but didn't he get booked the 2nd time but not the 1st? or did someone else do it as well?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
All I want is to see a referee who gives consistant decisions to both teams playing. Is that too much to ask for?
 
EG: if Adelaide had been hard done by as well, I could accept that. It would show that although the officials were poor, that they were consistant and giving it to both sides.
 
Frankly whoever is in charge of the referees association in Australia should resign. Obviously the training scheme and recruitment of referees is not up to the standards required at a professional level. Unless the referess have been given instruction by their leader to act as they currently do.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Plodder got booked FFS! PMSL
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
meh good teams win despite the referee...

Something I have noticed is that some fans are very quick to blame the referee. It is becoming part of the Phoenix culture in my opinion, and isn't something we should be encouraging

blame the players. We had 13 corners and hardly made their keeper make a save all night. 2 strikers for the rest of the season is a must.
 
Mate, we all know the Phoenix blew it. They had so many chances and couldn't do the business.
 
But the ref was terrible, we are simply pointing that out.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Was plodder booked for chatting to the linesman?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
jeremiah wrote:
The(O)Dor wrote:
Feverish wrote:
a few poor decisions. Why didnt that get get carded when he took out Daniel on the left touchline in the second half? Prob cos he already had a yellow and the ref had no balls
 
That's one of the ones I'm talking about.  Daniel was in the clear, heading towards the by line, with men streaming towards the box, the guy comes in only to collect Daniel, is on a yellow, and is not given another yellow.  That was a red to my way of thinking for how cynical it was and the intent with which it was delivered - the bloke was there for one reason, to do whatever, including illegally, to stop Daniel.


correct me if i'm wrong (i haven't seen the replay) but didn't he get booked the 2nd time but not the 1st? or did someone else do it as well?
 
From memory, he didn't book either of them.  And certainly not the bloke who was late on Daniel in the clear already with a yellow next to his name.  I think the only card he gave in injury time was to Plodder.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
chocnut wrote:
Was plodder booked for chatting to the linesman?
 
wasnt he booked for stepping over the line before coming on?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
pedersen wrote:
chocnut wrote:
Was plodder booked for chatting to the linesman?
 
wasnt he booked for stepping over the line before coming on?


Think he was booked for gobbing off at the linesman. On telly it looked like the lino said it was the 4th time something had happened/been said. If so, Christie's a muppet for copping a stupid booking IMO.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AUFC_Fan wrote:
wouldn't u guys be affarid that u will start to lose support if u dont start getting the results.


No. We're Wellington. Hurricanes still get good crowds, and they lose heaps.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yep I'm afraid I have to agree with some that ref bashing has sadly been justified some games. There are days (like yesterday) when you just know the ref seems anti-Phoenix.  I'm putting it down to one of those 'first season in the A-league' things. Hopefully the refs and others will get used to the Phoenix presence after this season, and won't seem so bloody-minded against us. To me it's pretty clear though that some of that exists. It's quite distinct from the gun the Phoenix keep re-loading and shooting themselves in the foot with. That's another matter entirely!!! 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
agree that the referee's are terrible, altho coupled with there sheer incompetence is the way players go about there tackling and play in the a-league. I swear if a premier league ref came over here and did a few games each team would finish with 9 men everytime. The malicious tackling in the a-league is absurd, only beaten with the absurd referees who do nothing about it. Almost every game i watch i see players get hopped down with no intention to get the ball, yet half the time they don't even get carded. 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
we have recieved the same treatmeant the past two weeks we have scored a goal in the last minutes and the referee has blown a free kick i tell u we were pissed off. agostino scored against newcatsle breeze disallowed it and then we scored aganist perth and o'leary disallowed it.  
 
I like watching the nixs play because your plays are really techincal felipe and daniel with thier step overs. but i think it will take time to settle into this league.
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I recently did a ref course i referee junior and hopefully next season in the south australian state league and maybe one day the a-league. yeah people r quick to blame the ref.  against central coast we faced the same problem we had lots more corners but could not make them pay for it.
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