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Ross cited for elbow in roar game(plus Griffiths)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
As has been said earlier, boils down to the FFA having a good look at their own rules and taking steps to make sure this situation doesn't happen again in the future. I'm also sure that, if they really wanted to, they could do something about this particular incident.

Am I the only one who finds it strange that while Juninho's getting loads of publicity, and support, for saying refs should protect players, a player is let off for throwing a punch at a linesman!! Auckland Jag2007-10-09 22:27:34

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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SiNZ wrote:
DrQuack called it right:
The FFA confirmed Griffiths had been booked for "dissent by action" for the incident in the fourth minute of the spiteful top-of-the-table clash, tying their hands and ensuring he could not be hauled before a tribunal. If he had been red-carded, or even if no action had been taken by the referee, Griffiths could have faced a lengthy suspension. A red card would have opened the way for the FFA to refer the matter to its disciplinary tribunal to determine a suitable penalty, while no card at all would have allowed Griffiths to be cited.

Jesus I got one right. Better not make a habit of it
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well, you were due
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The whole FFA/A League Disciplinary Procedure is becoming a joke!

Steve Corica has had an extra week added to his One Week Suspension for his red card against Melbourne.

Also, Branko Culina has been hit with an "Undisclosed" fine for breaking the A-League's Code of Conduct for comments he made about Referee Mark Shields in the post match Media Conference.

I suspect (and I hope I am wrong on this one!) that the Disciplinary panel decided to add an extra week onto Corica's suspension so that when they find Ross Aloisi Guilty of elbowing a Roar player then that will justify their decision.

As for Culina's fine. If they feel it nescessary to fine a Manager for comments made then surely they have no other option but to ban Joel Griffiths for a long, long time! Or maybe they feel words hurt more than fists!!! C-Diddy2007-10-10 11:17:27

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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C-Diddy wrote:

I suspect (and I hope I am wrong on this one!) that the Disciplinary panel decided to add an extra week onto Corica's suspension so that when they find Ross Aloisi Guilty of elbowing a Roar player then that will justify their decision.
 
 
Don't be silly  That's just paranoid conspiracy talk. You seriously think the FFA sat around debating how to get Aloisi and that someone came up with the idea of using Corica as a means to do that? It is quite common for red card suspensions to be extended.
 
Aloisi blatantly elbowed a player and it was missed by the ref. Normal practice in all leagues is for that to be punished after the event. No conspiracy. Managers being fined for comments is also common.
 
The Griffiths matter is a separate affair and unfortunately DrQuack called it correctly. There is a flaw in the FFA's logic over the Griffiths matter (a yellow card for dissent by action does not in my opinion consititute having dealt with violent conduct towards an official), but that is quite separate.
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Do the  the FFA have the means to rescind the decision , look at it again and discipline the bugger for the correct offence ,  they do seem to have a rather blase attitude to it all! Kiwi Jambo2007-10-10 16:35:19

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's an absolute joke - a joke which is not in the least bit humorous.
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NEWCASTLE striker Joel Griffiths has apologised for lashing out at a linesman during the Jets' A-League draw with Central Coast, claiming he didn't intend to hit him.

Griffiths was today fined two weeks wages by the Jets and formally apologised over the act of dissent in Sunday's match in Gosford, where he was shown a yellow card after striking the groin of assistant Alex Glasgow.

"I am sorry for my actions in the incident involving the linesman in the match against the Central Coast on the weekend," Griffiths said today in a statement.

"I wish to say here now, there was never any intention to strike the linesman intentionally.

"However I do realise that many young people were watching the game and that it may have given the wrong impression to young kids.

"In actual fact, I went to the officials room straight after the match to offer my sincere apologies to the linesman, who accepted my apologies.

"I have met with the club in relation to this issue and understand the severity of my actions.

"The club has imposed a penalty on me and I have no argument with that.

"I play with passion and I play with vigour and perhaps it overflowed too much on this occasion."

Griffiths requested his two-week fine, one week of which is suspended, be donated to the Childrens Ward of the John Hunter Hospital.

Jets chief executive John Tsatsimas said: "Although the incident involving Joel was dealt with directly on the field, and no further action was taken, the club has held lengthy discussions this week with Joel and (coach) Gary van Egmond regarding that incident.

"It is very important that we uphold the integrity of the club and the game to ensure the correct standard of behaviour on the field."

Football Federation Australia chief executive Ben Buckley confirmed no further action could be taken against Griffiths, despite an outcry the striker should have received a red card and served a suspension.

Buckley told Sydney radio station 2KY that soccer's world governing body FIFA would not allow additional charges against a player if the referee had taken action at the time of the incident.

"That's the way the game is governed on a worldwide basis but I would caution all players when they show dissent, and in particular dissent towards a referee, that they be very careful with their actions," Buckley said.

AAP

 

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Oh, that's all right then. He's deeply sorry, he didn't mean it, he apologised to the officials and he's donated some dosh to a children's hospital. Saint Joel! What a load of cobblers. If Newcastle really want to uphold "the integrity of the club", they should suspend Griffiths for a couple of games. That would send out a message but, of course, that would never happen.
 
How can you, in anger, throw out a hand/fist in someone's general direction and then claim you didn't mean to hit them. Obviously the lino doesn't possess any cajones, or his report to the ref would've resulted in this twat getting the ban he deserves.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I reckon the Name "Fat Bollock" would suit Joel Griffiths as that's what he gave the linesman.
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C-Diddy wrote:
"I wish to say here now, there was never any intention to strike the linesman intentionally." 
 
Huh?
 
So did he unintentionally strike the official intentionally?
 
Or, rather, did he intentionally intend to unintentionally intend to unintentionally strike the official intentionally...?
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
back to the plot - anyone heard what the result of the Aloisi enquiry is?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yeah the hearings tonight a what time can we expect an outcome
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
C-Diddy wrote:
"I wish to say here now, there was never any intention to strike the linesman intentionally." 
 
Huh?
 
So did he unintentionally strike the official intentionally?
 
Or, rather, did he intentionally intend to unintentionally intend to unintentionally strike the official intentionally...?
 
 
I hope he wasn't trying for a head shot then, What lousy aim.
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savaged1 wrote:
yeah the hearings tonight a what time can we expect an outcome


 - one match suspension, if he gets carded at his next game (see LF1 thread)
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