Ross cited for elbow in roar game(plus Griffiths)
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"But Wellington Phoenix skipper Ross Aloisi wasn't so fortunate.
He has been cited for violent conduct for allegedly elbowing Queensland defender Hyuk Su-Seo early in his side's 2-1 loss last week.
Aloisi's hearing will be held in Sydney on Friday afternoon."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Griffiths-escapes-ALeague-sanction/2007/10/08/1191695815788.html
Griffiths gets away with
punching an official but we get a farking disciplinary
hearing!
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He definetly elbowed him though 
if
im remembering correctly.Might be in trouble on that one...
if
im remembering correctly.Might be in trouble on that one...
Allegedly
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Yeah, we'll lose Ross and they'll have Griffiths... that seems
fair... luckily I'm a mod otherwise I might just swear. Hard
News2007-10-08 23:27:13
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I know it's a different sport, but in rugby league, the warriors
fullback Wade McKinnon got three weeks after he pushed the referee
aside (because he ran into him) so he could make a tackle.
I'm sure if it was a kiwi team the A-League wouldnt be so understanding.
I'm sure if it was a kiwi team the A-League wouldnt be so understanding.
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i agree its bad,if you strike an official it should be a red
card,if the ref does not give the card it should be cited after
game
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thought that might happen, bugger
no news was good news yesterday, but not so good today
tigers2007-10-09 07:44:22
no news was good news yesterday, but not so good today
tigers2007-10-09 07:44:22
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More bullocks from the FFA, we shouldn't be playing this week due to world cup qualifiers anyway. In Europe teams don't play during WCQ's.
I say tackle him in the face.
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Basically football are trying to move into a more accountable and
'cleaner' age/image.
Much like in League or Rugby, if the referee deals with incident on the park then that is viewed as the matter resolved. You have to allow the match officials ultimate control in the first instance in that he has to be able to react on what he sees, rightly or wrongly. In the cases of violent conduct which relates to incidents not of a footballing nature, then big brother has to be able to step in and deal with these otherwise you might get a situation where players and looking to clown the other fella on the head the minute the 3 officials aren't looking.
Its sucks but the Griffiths matter is closed and Aloisi is going to get 2 weeks even though it was not even with excessive force and that prick milked it.
Much like in League or Rugby, if the referee deals with incident on the park then that is viewed as the matter resolved. You have to allow the match officials ultimate control in the first instance in that he has to be able to react on what he sees, rightly or wrongly. In the cases of violent conduct which relates to incidents not of a footballing nature, then big brother has to be able to step in and deal with these otherwise you might get a situation where players and looking to clown the other fella on the head the minute the 3 officials aren't looking.
Its sucks but the Griffiths matter is closed and Aloisi is going to get 2 weeks even though it was not even with excessive force and that prick milked it.
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if the referee deals with incident on the park then that is viewed
as the matter resolved. You have to allow the match officials
ultimate control in the first instance in that he has to be able to
react on what he sees, rightly or wrongly.
But the officials obviously did not see what Griffiths did -
weren't both watching the ongoing play. The linesman reacted
to being touched, hence the yellow card, but the television cameras
showed a fist being swung at the linesman.
Ross clearly elbowed the Roar player, so this could end in a
ban. We can't really complain, even though Griffiths' clean getaway
rankles in comparison
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That's the biggest load of sh!te i've heard in a long
time. Joel Griffiths hit a Match Official!!!
Let's tell all the juniors who play football that if they don't like a decesion that they can just punch a ref or a linesman and all will be OK!
And while we're at it why dont we just abolish referees and linesmen altogether and have the Fourth Official (who would be promoted to the First Official) not even attend the match and hand out cards and supensions on monday morning after reviewing the video evidence???
F!cking disgrace!
Let's tell all the juniors who play football that if they don't like a decesion that they can just punch a ref or a linesman and all will be OK!
And while we're at it why dont we just abolish referees and linesmen altogether and have the Fourth Official (who would be promoted to the First Official) not even attend the match and hand out cards and supensions on monday morning after reviewing the video evidence???
F!cking disgrace!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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I wonder what FIFA would think about no punishment for a player who
strikes a match official. In other sports that would result in a
long ban (depending on how severe it could even be a life
ban) , it shows that the FFA are more interested in protecting
their players than officials. I guess it sets a prescedent, punch a
ref get booked no problems 
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as stated above, rules is rules - if the ref catches and punishes
the offence, then it is considered over and done with.
If the ref misses it, it can be dealt with later.
That way, the offence does not get double punishment.
I think the Aloisi incident was the turning point of the match - Aloisi knew he had gone too far and backed off his commitment to the game and it may have encouraged QLD to go in hard on Felipe in response.
phoenix rising2007-10-09 09:24:28
If the ref misses it, it can be dealt with later.
That way, the offence does not get double punishment.
I think the Aloisi incident was the turning point of the match - Aloisi knew he had gone too far and backed off his commitment to the game and it may have encouraged QLD to go in hard on Felipe in response.
phoenix rising2007-10-09 09:24:28
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A statement on the Uefa website said it had opened an investigation on the basis of article five, paragraph one of the disciplinary regulations, which state:
- Member associations, clubs, as well as their players, officials
and members, shall conduct themselves according to the principles
of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship.
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This was taken from a statement in relation to the Dida
incident in last weeks Champions League Match between Celtic and AC
Milan...
Joel Griffiths = Yellow for hitting linesman
Ross Aloisi = Possible Suspension for elbowing an
opponant
Dida = Probable large fine but no suspension (because
UEFA go soft on AC Milan due to corruption in Italian
Football!)
See any problems with this???
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Sorry, I see there is a thread ("Team for Next Week") already
discussing team selection for Newcastle - should have raised my
comments there.
Selhurst Park, 25 January 1995
What else could he have done?
What else could he have done?
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as stated above, rules is rules - if the ref catches and punishes
the offence, then it is considered over and done with.
If the ref misses it, it can be dealt with later.
That way, the offence does not get double punishment.
I think the Aloisi incident was the turning point of the match - Aloisi knew he had gone too far and backed off his commitment to the game and it may have encouraged QLD to go in hard on Felipe in response.
If the ref misses it, it can be dealt with later.
That way, the offence does not get double punishment.
I think the Aloisi incident was the turning point of the match - Aloisi knew he had gone too far and backed off his commitment to the game and it may have encouraged QLD to go in hard on Felipe in response.
Qld were out to clog Felipe from the start, regardless of any mind reading about Aloisi's 'mood' after their player charged recklessly into Aloisi's elbow
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How the ref only gave a ' YELLOW " is a joke. Love to know what
he wrote on his report - The ref has acted on the linesmens
advice, which could be " he only attempted to hit me " which is a
yellow card "yeah right".
The ref in the Phoenix game let
Felipe get two bucket loads of sh*t kick out of him before
carding the fourth player in a pre-arrange attack to stop him
playing. After watching most of games this
season ,clearly a few of these " OFFICALS " are not up
to the required level.
ChopperHarris2007-10-09 09:43:50
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agreed Chopper, they were rotating the fouls on felipe
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The most unfair thing about it is the fact that Ross can be suspended and he still keeps his excisting 3 Yellows next to his name!!!
Maybe the judiciary should use their common sense and give
Ross a Yellow for the incident so that he doesn't have the threat
of another suspension hanging over him!!!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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Just watching the Mariners v Jets replay now - haven't seen the
Griffiths incident yet (half-time) will post thoughts after
viewing.
Just seen it was after 3 minutes - they didn't seem to linger
on it and I've missed it - bugger
HeySeus2007-10-09 09:58:33
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it happened early in the first half, but they might review it at
halftime
there is a youtube link on the Jets CCM thread
yep, here tis' courtesy of alistair who posted it on the other thread
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tigers2007-10-09 10:06:35
there is a youtube link on the Jets CCM thread
yep, here tis' courtesy of alistair who posted it on the other thread
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tigers2007-10-09 10:06:35
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Cheers Tigers. Just viewed.
Inexcusable that a) Griffiths stayed on the pitch and b) he
isn't facing a lengthy ban from the game
Paolo di Canio got an 11-match ban for pushing Paul Alcock and
Griffiths punches a linesman and gets a yellow.
Joke.
HeySeus2007-10-09 10:27:12
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it's absolute bollocks, one set of rules for the aussies and
another for us..... It's the same in every sport, complete
hypocrisy luggsy062007-10-09 10:33:40
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Hopefully the fans from all the other clubs (and us next season)
will remind him about every time he goes near a linesman.
He's obviously got a bit of a problem, so maybe he'll lash out again and get what he deserves.
Hope so, or Hard News will have to increase his blood pressure medication.
He's obviously got a bit of a problem, so maybe he'll lash out again and get what he deserves.
Hope so, or Hard News will have to increase his blood pressure medication.
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"Paolo di Canio got an 11-match ban for pushing Paul Alcock and Griffiths punches a linesman and gets a yellow."
So by that rational Griffiths should get at least the same for punching Acock?
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
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"Paolo di Canio got an 11-match ban for pushing Paul Alcock and Griffiths punches a linesman and gets a yellow."
So by that rational Griffiths should get at least the same for punching Acock?
you are so right, clearly the FFA have ballsed it up
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"Paolo di Canio got an 11-match ban for pushing Paul Alcock and Griffiths punches a linesman and gets a yellow."
So by that rational Griffiths should get at least the same for punching Acock?
you are so right, clearly the FFA have ballsed it up
Yep the undercarriage off justice must be protected with a stiff penalty dished out make no bones about it ! and no cover ups
Kiwi Jambo2007-10-09 11:42:19
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
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the question remains, was it part of a conspiracy or just a
cock-up?
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I smell a conspiracy..... Cues X files theme song!
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There must be condomnation of this players
actions!!
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
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Must be hard on the officials
!!
The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.
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But the officials obviously did not see what Griffiths did -
weren't both watching the ongoing play. The linesman reacted
to being touched, hence the yellow card, but the television cameras
showed a fist being swung at the linesman.
I don't follow you. Unless something else happened contrary to what was on that youtube clip, Griffiths hit/touched the AR, he called over the referee, a yellow card was issued. The AR certainly saw/felt it and hence why he called him over. The card issued would have been based on what the AR felt and then said to the referee. You can't question the referee, only what the AR told him.
We have discussed this at length today and this is a red card in any language you care to say it in.
DrQuack322007-10-09 12:46:41
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I mean striking an official is a red card. Only a yellow was
given. Therefore the official did not realise he had been struck.
He must have merely thought Griffiths touched him. So the actual
offence committed has not been penalised and the FFA could have
done more.
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That's the biggest load of sh!te i've heard in a long
time. Joel Griffiths hit a Match Official!!!
Let's tell all the juniors who play football that if they don't like a decesion that they can just punch a ref or a linesman and all will be OK!
And while we're at it why dont we just abolish referees and linesmen altogether and have the Fourth Official (who would be promoted to the First Official) not even attend the match and hand out cards and supensions on monday morning after reviewing the video evidence???
F!cking disgrace!
Let's tell all the juniors who play football that if they don't like a decesion that they can just punch a ref or a linesman and all will be OK!
And while we're at it why dont we just abolish referees and linesmen altogether and have the Fourth Official (who would be promoted to the First Official) not even attend the match and hand out cards and supensions on monday morning after reviewing the video evidence???
F!cking disgrace!
If you are referring to my post then I'm not going to deny that. Thats just the reality of the situation
Now if that was me who he hit, I would have taken my shirt off, yelled out "I am now retired" and kicked the sh*t out of him.
DrQuack322007-10-09 12:58:20
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I mean striking an official is a red card. Only a yellow was
given. Therefore the official did not realise he had been struck.
He must have merely thought Griffiths touched him. So the actual
offence committed has not been penalised and the FFA could have
done more.
Depend on what was written on the match report. Hence why the case is closed.
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Now if that was me who he hit, I would have taken my shirt off, yelled out "I am now retired" and kicked the sh*t out of him.
, there's a few on here who'd pay
good money to see thatand the whole shirts off thing is so Phoenix!!
that's the last time i think of refs as power-mad librarians in funny clothes
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I take the point of view is that yeah, I'm a ref, I'm going to get
sh*t and I don't mind one bit. In the end, I'm a regular jo like
everyone else and its not me they hate, but the my shirt and what
it means. Still doesn't mean you get the right to disrespect me by
assaulting me. You wanna play that then its open season.
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Funnily enough, I'd never ever seen myself as a power-mad librarian
in funny clothes 
..and spot on with your comments, Dr Q.
Auckland Jag2007-10-09 13:12:12
..and spot on with your comments, Dr Q.
Auckland Jag2007-10-09 13:12:12
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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Looking at the FFA regulations shouldn't they now
charge Griffiths under their code of bringing the game into
disrepute as it is a seperate matter from the laws of the game?
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