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Sarpreet Singh

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about 8 years ago

paraphrase

" I don't know but I'm a gunna throw it out there"

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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about 8 years ago

You’d probably get an attitude if your forever stuck on the bench when there’s a load of shark playing in front of you

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about 8 years ago

Maybe the attitude problem is that he has a desire to win games. Doesn't fit with the team philosophy

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

That's the best insight we've had so far on why he might not be playing. Certainly a better sauce than we've been exposed to, to date.

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about 8 years ago

That's the best insight we've had so far on why he might not be playing. Certainly a better sauce than we've been exposed to, to date.

Except it sounds like Peverley is just speculating too from that second tweet

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

But is he throwing that out there because there is a history of attitude problems? He's been built up as the savior of NZ football for a few years now, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's gone to his head a bit.

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about 8 years ago

Speculating about speculation?

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

That's right.

Anyway he said it was the only reason he could think of and Ifill said that Singhs a good kid so maybe just a lack of confidence in the coach.

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about 8 years ago

There you go, attitude issues. The brain is still developing at this age, with 25 it should be fully developed. Some good elderly advise or not be nominating could will speed things up. Maybe he reads to much of this forum instead of asking senior players for advise.

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about 8 years ago

foal30 wrote:

paraphrase

" I don't know but I'm a gunna throw it out there"

It not was Peverly says in his second tweet. It would 'not surprise' him becaus I think Peverly knows Singh.

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about 8 years ago

Our late, lamented, Anthony H expressed reservations about many young Kiwi footballers who he felt had talent, but lacked the right mental attitude to succeed. Maybe Singh is one of these and would benefit from some mentoring and guidance from senior pros. 

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

scribbler wrote:

Our late, lamented, Anthony H expressed reservations about many young Kiwi footballers who he felt had talent, but lacked the right mental attitude to succeed. Maybe Singh is one of these and would benefit from some mentoring and guidance from senior pros. 

Has he not been in the Nix academy for a few years? If he has not had mentoring and guidance there, what does that tell you?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 8 years ago

Ok so if everyone is accepting this attitude excuse, what exactly about his attitude do we think it is? He doesn't seem to be lazy, selfish, or unprofessional on the pitch. 

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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about 8 years ago

scribbler wrote:

Our late, lamented, Anthony H expressed reservations about many young Kiwi footballers who he felt had talent, but lacked the right mental attitude to succeed. Maybe Singh is one of these and would benefit from some mentoring and guidance from senior pros. 

From my own life experience, up to a certain age I thought I was the king of the castle, then you leave your caste and go out into the world and you met other equally or more talented, harder working people and you realize out that you are just among many. All you can do is improve and doing humble as the best as you can you job as part of a team. (I wish Trump as those insights)

In case of Singh, even he is praised as a good, smart, tidy footballer, for now he is just a young talent in small club in a small country at the end of the world. He is not competing for this spot with millions of Brazilian, Spanish, French, German or Italian kids.There is a few possibility for him. He may get a good squad player for us decent A-League, or if he gets better than this, leaves for a bigger club and proves himself against better players to find out how good he really is. Third and worst he goes the same ways as eg. Rufer, Watson no way really at least for now.

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about 8 years ago

That's the best insight we've had so far on why he might not be playing. Certainly a better sauce than we've been exposed to, to date.

Except it sounds like Peverley is just speculating too from that second tweet

Maybe so but he's probably better suited than 99% of us on here that have no insight into the world of the pro/semi footballer and the current batch of NZ playing stock. 
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about 8 years ago

Ok so if everyone is accepting this attitude excuse, what exactly about his attitude do we think it is? He doesn't seem to be lazy, selfish, or unprofessional on the pitch. 

I don't think anyone question his general attitude. It could be a temporary thing.

I personally have high respect for all this kids playing at, or close to this level. They work professional and have to very organised in their lives sometimes away from their families. They just left school and now are full-time working in a highly competitive environment. No way to just hang around for a few weeks being lazy, drinking beer and chasing girls...

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about 8 years ago

I felt the same thing in regards to Boyd - it is disrespectful to the players to say they have an attitude problem based on speculation. Peverley shouldn't be saying in a tweet that a young player has an attitude problem. I don't think it is fair to Singh that this sort of a rumour would be attached to him before his career has even really started.

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about 8 years ago

Sincerely hope this is just speculation and isnt the reason. However in saying that if true he wouldnt be the first player in the Phoenix to have suffered from this over the years.

Seems at times that some at the Phoenix think playing for a team that isnt really successful still entitles you to treat some people like shyte.


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about 8 years ago
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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Yep, just saw that. I really think we should move on from this. Not fair to cast aspersions on a young kid without even circumstantial evidence.

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about 8 years ago · edited about 8 years ago · History

Thought Joyce’s comments on Arzani were more relevant here, rather than match day thread.

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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about 8 years ago

I did not see any attitude problem with his performance against Sydney, I saw a very good cameo performance.

If he is a bit of a big head which is just speculation from someone who has had little if anything to do with Singh then I could not care. Singh has shown  for the 20 minutes that he was on against Sydney more than some  other playing members have shown all season.

I am concerned about The Phoenix Coach also. He is starting look like another Mark Hammett who screwed over The Hurricanes

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about 8 years ago

The tards should just swoop in send this kid a contract because we have no fudgeen clue of what to do with this level of talent.

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about 8 years ago

I haven't seen really seen Singh play. I had a family thing on the day he got some good minutes. 

I saw him a bit for the wee 'Nix last year and wasn't blown away. Though I remember when Marco was just a scrawny kid getting a couple of minutes. 

Is he better than Marco or Kosta? It's a harder position to flourish perhaps? You need to work in combinations- you have to have players who will make the runs for you, have the technical ability to keep the ball moving and put the chances away.



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about 8 years ago

martinb wrote:

I haven't seen really seen Singh play. I had a family thing on the day he got some good minutes. 

I saw him a bit for the wee 'Nix last year and wasn't blown away. Though I remember when Marco was just a scrawny kid getting a couple of minutes. 

Is he better than Marco or Kosta? It's a harder position to flourish perhaps? You need to work in combinations- you have to have players who will make the runs for you, have the technical ability to keep the ball moving and put the chances away.

Within minutes of coming on against Sydney, Piney mentioned that Singh was pulling all the strings. He was making excellent passess and hit the post with a 30 metre drive. The 20 minute  cameo performance was better than any of the the crap Kosta dished up last year.

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about 8 years ago

whatever wrote:

I did not see any attitude problem with his performance against Sydney, I saw a very good cameo performance.

If he is a bit of a big head which is just speculation from someone who has had little if anything to do with Singh then I could not care. Singh has shown  for the 20 minutes that he was on against Sydney more than some  other playing members have shown all season.

I am concerned about The Phoenix Coach also. He is starting look like another Mark Hammett who screwed over The Hurricanes

Yup moving on from Andrew Hore and Ma'a Nonu because of attitude problems did us no favours. Both All Blacks at the time too.

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about 8 years ago

Could understand if his attitude is less than optimal.

Has been the outstanding player in an average Wee Nix team, has been pretty good when he has come on for the few minutes he has got and this is rewarded by being dropped from an underperforming  squad altogether.

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about 8 years ago

Brown Bear wrote:

whatever wrote:

I did not see any attitude problem with his performance against Sydney, I saw a very good cameo performance.

If he is a bit of a big head which is just speculation from someone who has had little if anything to do with Singh then I could not care. Singh has shown  for the 20 minutes that he was on against Sydney more than some  other playing members have shown all season.

I am concerned about The Phoenix Coach also. He is starting look like another Mark Hammett who screwed over The Hurricanes

Yup moving on from Andrew Hore and Ma'a Nonu because of attitude problems did us no favours. Both All Blacks at the time too.

Yes he blamed the players when he was incompetent. Once he got rid of those that you mentioned,The Hurricanes were still underperforming. Once he went The Hurricanes  made the final and next year won it.

I note that the Crusaders (the franchise where he was from) did not want to employ him and the Highlanders did not want to appoint him as coach. He's "cooked his goose" and now is just  a hanger on.

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about 8 years ago

if singh believes he is a winner (ie better than the others) then he should be playing, that s after all what the coach said he lacked a few weeks ago - a team of winners.

I find it hard to believe that this is the reason he's not being played. Maybe Dariej just hasnt seen enough of him.

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about 8 years ago

whatever wrote:

Brown Bear wrote:

whatever wrote:

I did not see any attitude problem with his performance against Sydney, I saw a very good cameo performance.

If he is a bit of a big head which is just speculation from someone who has had little if anything to do with Singh then I could not care. Singh has shown  for the 20 minutes that he was on against Sydney more than some  other playing members have shown all season.

I am concerned about The Phoenix Coach also. He is starting look like another Mark Hammett who screwed over The Hurricanes

Yup moving on from Andrew Hore and Ma'a Nonu because of attitude problems did us no favours. Both All Blacks at the time too.

Yes he blamed the players when he was incompetent. Once he got rid of those that you mentioned,The Hurricanes were still underperforming. Once he went The Hurricanes  made the final and next year won it.

I note that the Crusaders (the franchise where he was from) did not want to employ him and the Highlanders did not want to appoint him as coach. He's "cooked his goose" and now is just  a hanger on.

  And he was sacked from Cardiff after failing to get buy in from senior players about his new methods.  Most likely the issue was never with the attitude of the Hore, Nonu etc.. but with Hammett being threatened by the influence of senior pros.
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about 8 years ago

theprof wrote:

if singh believes he is a winner (ie better than the others) then he should be playing, that s after all what the coach said he lacked a few weeks ago - a team of winners.

I find it hard to believe that this is the reason he's not being played. Maybe Dariej just hasnt seen enough of him.

You just solved the problem.  Singh wants to be number one whilst too many want to be or are happy to be, sixth.

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about 8 years ago

It just seemed so odd after his performance against Sydeny he only got a minute the next week and was dropped altogether this week.

That been said, with the shark set up and tactics we had last night, I can see why he wasn't picked - hardly suited the tactics.

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about 8 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

It just seemed so odd after his performance against Sydeny he only got a minute the next week and was dropped altogether this week.

That been said, with the shark set up and tactics we had last night, I can see why he wasn't picked - hardly suited the tactics.

It could well be that it's planned for him to play more minutes at home, along with a tactically different game at home too.

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about 8 years ago

have always been a firm believer in this kids talent, remember when he dominated brazil with his skills at youth level world cup.

yung thug

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about 8 years ago

Colvinator wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

It just seemed so odd after his performance against Sydeny he only got a minute the next week and was dropped altogether this week.

That been said, with the shark set up and tactics we had last night, I can see why he wasn't picked - hardly suited the tactics.

It could well be that it's planned for him to play more minutes at home, along with a tactically different game at home too.

Sure, the "great master plan". Singh gets dropped and we have to put up with Ridenton and other underperformers bumbling their way around the paddock

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about 8 years ago

whatever wrote:

Colvinator wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

It just seemed so odd after his performance against Sydeny he only got a minute the next week and was dropped altogether this week.

That been said, with the shark set up and tactics we had last night, I can see why he wasn't picked - hardly suited the tactics.

It could well be that it's planned for him to play more minutes at home, along with a tactically different game at home too.

Sure, the "great master plan". Singh gets dropped and we have to put up with Ridenton and other underperformers bumbling their way around the paddock

The question is though, out of Ridenton and Singh who was better suited to play and implement the coaches tactics on the weekend? Is it how i'd line up and play, no... but I'm not the manager.

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about 8 years ago

Darje said he stopped starting Smith to protect him, perhaps he doesn't want to have Singh in the high pressure situation that the team is in right now.

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about 8 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Darje said he stopped starting Smith to protect him, perhaps he doesn't want to have Singh in the high pressure situation that the team is in right now.

yeah i once worked with a coach who got a bit of shark for not chucking kids in earlier to the first team but he had a clear philosophy which was that he wanted to avoid a kid being in and out of the team - so he wanted to pick them when he thought they could stay in the team.  Maybe Darje has a simular plan - there must be a lot of pressure and frustration out of the paddock at the moment.

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about 8 years ago

Its a very important time in Singh's development and without knowing what he is like its hard to gauge properly if he should be protected or not. It can be make or break for some youngsters - have a dream run and everything is ok but being thrown in to a situation where there is a degree of turmoil/expectation/frustration/angst and you aren't emotionally equipped to handle it - could break them. Don't know the coaches views on this but he might be concerned about the player rather than the team dynamic on this one.  

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about 8 years ago

On the other hand - if it's true that Singh has an 'attitude' problem and/or is too 'cocky' - you think he'd give him a taste just to show him how much harder it is playing with the big boys.

At the end of the day, DK did play Smith from the start and, although I don't know the young man personally, he really didn't seem to ooze confidence, did he?


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