That tweet is like someone slamming the door on him on his way out
2017/18 Transfer Speculation
That tweet is like someone slamming the door on him on his way out
That tweet is like someone slamming the door on him on his way out
Whats your take then?
I don't think he is going to crack it and being loaned to 6th tier England outfit which would be well below HAL level and starting in one midweek game with the youth scrubs in Whogivesashark Cup round 3 is not an indicator of his talent. He has done zero for me in an AW shirt. He likes to play left flank and run at the right back ball at feet. He tends to keep his head down in the 1v1s 1v2s and lose possession a lot with refusal to pass out of the coverage - has elements of Fenton in not getting his head up.
I think I have a fair idea of how he will go.
Last year he picked up a contract with two other youth players when the majority of others were dropped altogether at Ipswich - obviously has a little going for him.
Best of luck to @PattersonMonty as he heads back to New Zealand to sign for @WgtnPhoenixFC on an initial loan. His contract is up in the summer so he'll be hoping to earn a permanent deal there. #ITFC https://t.co/zvRzilQxsS
— ITFC Academy (@ITFC_Academy) January 31, 2018
Wow, I had missed this. Pretty much means bye-bye! Also, I keep reading the term initial loan. How does that differ to a standard loan I wonder?
Think it's more 'initially a loan' rather than 'initial loan'.
Also, really surprised Ross is still here. From what I'd hear and seen (especially his two early substitutions in a row recently), I really thought he'd be on his way in January.
Didn't get any better offers?... or was it just smoke?
Also, really surprised Ross is still here. From what I'd hear and seen (especially his two early substitutions in a row recently), I really thought he'd be on his way in January.
Some of that was tactical. He still seems to be a preferred starter when fit
I heard that Rossi likes Wellington and wants to stay. I don't know where the rumors that he was on the outer started but Darje clearly said the players who weren't wanted were not going to be playing and he was still starting every game.
That tweet is like someone slamming the door on him on his way out
Whats your take then?
I don't think he is going to crack it and being loaned to 6th tier England outfit which would be well below HAL level and starting in one midweek game with the youth scrubs in Whogivesashark Cup round 3 is not an indicator of his talent. He has done zero for me in an AW shirt. He likes to play left flank and run at the right back ball at feet. He tends to keep his head down in the 1v1s 1v2s and lose possession a lot with refusal to pass out of the coverage - has elements of Fenton in not getting his head up.
I think I have a fair idea of how he will go.
Long story short - youth football for a Championship side means squat
and we await the news of the replacement signings! this could be a tense 5 hours
I heard that Rossi likes Wellington and wants to stay. I don't know where the rumors that he was on the outer started but Darje clearly said the players who weren't wanted were not going to be playing and he was still starting every game.
I heard that Rossi likes Wellington and wants to stay. I don't know where the rumors that he was on the outer started but Darje clearly said the players who weren't wanted were not going to be playing and he was still starting every game.
Maybe he was one of the players who wanted Rado out, after Rado left Darje said several times that any players who wanted to go would be released. Maybe he's happier without Rado there.
maybe he is, but he was told he WAS staying by Rado
That tweet is like someone slamming the door on him on his way out
Whats your take then?
I don't think he is going to crack it and being loaned to 6th tier England outfit which would be well below HAL level and starting in one midweek game with the youth scrubs in Whogivesashark Cup round 3 is not an indicator of his talent. He has done zero for me in an AW shirt. He likes to play left flank and run at the right back ball at feet. He tends to keep his head down in the 1v1s 1v2s and lose possession a lot with refusal to pass out of the coverage - has elements of Fenton in not getting his head up.
I think I have a fair idea of how he will go.
Long story short - youth football for a Championship side means squat
I heard that Rossi likes Wellington and wants to stay. I don't know where the rumors that he was on the outer started but Darje clearly said the players who weren't wanted were not going to be playing and he was still starting every game.
We seem to have "duelling unsourced rumours" here
They're not really mutually exclusive, could be he was upset and now he's not.
Adams, Butler....
Rowe, Milne, Pelter.
Vader:
I don't think he is going to crack it and being loaned to 6th tier England outfit which would be well below HAL level and starting in one midweek game with the youth scrubs in Whogivesashark Cup round 3 is not an indicator of his talent. He has done zero for me in an AW shirt. He likes to play left flank and run at the right back ball at feet. He tends to keep his head down in the 1v1s 1v2s and lose possession a lot with refusal to pass out of the coverage - has elements of Fenton in not getting his head up.
I think I have a fair idea of how he will go.
Conan:
Was thinking the same thing JV. There's a bunch of kiwi kids who've been youth players at a similar level in the UK and I think Musa might be the only one for quite a while who has reached a decent level as a senior. Payne, Howieson, Lindsay - there's a couple of others whose names I can't remember of the top of my head.
Long story short - youth football for a Championship side means squat
Coohciee:
Adams, Butler....
So, Musa aside who has a MLS gig, no-one really since Chris Wood who went when he was 15 - 11 years ago.
I reckon Woud is a chance of developing.
Tighter restrictions around EU passport limits the Kiwi pool able to go; and most have struggled. Without that passport, recent opinion suggest USA is the preferred path. Not many other options out there; lower Scandinavian leagues? Where will the likes of McGarry, Rogerson go if released? Follow Fenton to Oz?
Sorry, this is off topic, but could be carried on elsewhere.
Where will the likes of Rogerson go
Waikato Sunday Soccer League. Probably coming off the bench.
Vader:
I don't think he is going to crack it and being loaned to 6th tier England outfit which would be well below HAL level and starting in one midweek game with the youth scrubs in Whogivesashark Cup round 3 is not an indicator of his talent. He has done zero for me in an AW shirt. He likes to play left flank and run at the right back ball at feet. He tends to keep his head down in the 1v1s 1v2s and lose possession a lot with refusal to pass out of the coverage - has elements of Fenton in not getting his head up.
I think I have a fair idea of how he will go.
Conan:
Was thinking the same thing JV. There's a bunch of kiwi kids who've been youth players at a similar level in the UK and I think Musa might be the only one for quite a while who has reached a decent level as a senior. Payne, Howieson, Lindsay - there's a couple of others whose names I can't remember of the top of my head.
Long story short - youth football for a Championship side means squat
Coohciee:
Adams, Butler....
So, Musa aside who has a MLS gig, no-one really since Chris Wood who went when he was 15 - 11 years ago.
I reckon Woud is a chance of developing.
Tighter restrictions around EU passport limits the Kiwi pool able to go; and most have struggled. Without that passport, recent opinion suggest USA is the preferred path. Not many other options out there; lower Scandinavian leagues? Where will the likes of McGarry, Rogerson go if released? Follow Fenton to Oz?
Sorry, this is off topic, but could be carried on elsewhere.
It's brutally harsh but that's the nature of the beast. This is why so many academies now try to set up the kids for a life outside football if they don't make it (like the Nix are doing).
Adams, Butler....
Rowe, Milne, Pelter.
Guess the FM scouts got those ones wrong.
Rowe, Milne, Pelter.
Gentley, Downe, D'Streem
Worked with an Aussie guy once at a bank, who spent 2 years in the youth system at Blackburn (cleaned Robbie Slater's boots), and another 2 years at Leicester. Early 2000's.
He openly said his UK passport (Scottish Dad), and Dad's connections at his Brisbane youth club - helped him get to the UK. Maybe he was being modest. Came home trialled for some Sydney NSL team, got injured. Moved back to QLD.
He named about 3-4 English blokes from his youth days I'd never heard of, who progressed onto modest EPL/Championship careers.
The one standout he played in youth teams with (Leicester) was Emile Heskey. Apparently just a beast at that young age. In a nutshell very few make it.
Do people honestly rate Italiano? I appreciate he's a young lad and we want him to succeed, but he looked shockingly poor imo.
I've never said he is the best keeper in the league. I said he is a decent young keeper and has no visa complications or health issues that would be a problem for him to stay at WPX.
Under normal circumstances he needs a few years before he is a reliable first choice keeper - but with Moss leaving, he is my first choice keeper. It's a great chance for him to prove he should hold down the first keeper spot. I would not cut him loose unless he wanted to go, or unless he ha a better offer elsewhere. Our outfield needs more investment than our goalie.
we should have invested in a goalie
Sign him up despite the age......
Interesting from the BBC
An out of contract Italian international goal scorer who will sign for free to prove he can still do it. I like the last line
"However, if I do find it, I'll be ready. I'll sign for free. I have already earned enough money."
Get on the phone Sir Les - six month contract?
www.bbc.com/sport/football/42937979
"Former Italy international Antonio Cassano has dismissed talk of joining a Chinese club as "stupid", saying players only move there for money.
The ex-Real Madrid striker, who played 39 times for Italy, has been without a club since leaving Verona last summer.
But the 35-year-old is not interested in becoming the latest big-name player to move to the Chinese Super League.
"It's stupid. I don't even remember the name of the team who want to sign me," he told Corriere della Sera.
"For me, everyone is free to do what they want. But whoever goes to play in China should admit they are doing it for the money."
Cassano made his Serie A debut for Bari at 17 and became the most expensive teenager in history when he made a £19.5m move to Roma in 2001.
He went on to play for the likes of Sampdoria, Inter and AC Milan before twice changing his mind over retiring last summer, but he is open to extending his career - just not in China.
"I want to know whether I can still make it," he added. "It needs a president and a coach who have 100% belief in me. Otherwise, I will leave it be.
"However, if I do find it, I'll be ready. I'll sign for free. I have already earned enough money."
"However, if I do find it, I'll be ready. I'll sign for free. I have already earned enough money."
Quite a refreshing approach to modern football!
Sign him up despite the age......
Interesting from the BBC
An out of contract Italian international goal scorer who will sign for free to prove he can still do it. I like the last line
"However, if I do find it, I'll be ready. I'll sign for free. I have already earned enough money."
Get on the phone Sir Les - six month contract?
www.bbc.com/sport/football/42937979
"Former Italy international Antonio Cassano has dismissed talk of joining a Chinese club as "stupid", saying players only move there for money.
The ex-Real Madrid striker, who played 39 times for Italy, has been without a club since leaving Verona last summer.
But the 35-year-old is not interested in becoming the latest big-name player to move to the Chinese Super League.
"It's stupid. I don't even remember the name of the team who want to sign me," he told Corriere della Sera.
"For me, everyone is free to do what they want. But whoever goes to play in China should admit they are doing it for the money."
Cassano made his Serie A debut for Bari at 17 and became the most expensive teenager in history when he made a £19.5m move to Roma in 2001.
He went on to play for the likes of Sampdoria, Inter and AC Milan before twice changing his mind over retiring last summer, but he is open to extending his career - just not in China.
"I want to know whether I can still make it," he added. "It needs a president and a coach who have 100% belief in me. Otherwise, I will leave it be.
"However, if I do find it, I'll be ready. I'll sign for free. I have already earned enough money."
"However, if I do find it, I'll be ready. I'll sign for free. I have already earned enough money."
Quite a refreshing approach to modern football!
Sounds like he has a different agent than Krishna.
Do people honestly rate Italiano? I appreciate he's a young lad and we want him to succeed, but he looked shockingly poor imo.
I've never said he is the best keeper in the league. I said he is a decent young keeper and has no visa complications or health issues that would be a problem for him to stay at WPX.
Under normal circumstances he needs a few years before he is a reliable first choice keeper - but with Moss leaving, he is my first choice keeper. It's a great chance for him to prove he should hold down the first keeper spot. I would not cut him loose unless he wanted to go, or unless he ha a better offer elsewhere. Our outfield needs more investment than our goalie.
we should have invested in a goalie
Agreed. My original comment at the time was in reference to the fact that while Moss had left, we had more problems in the outfield than in the goal. Now that we have patched up some of the outfield problems (I did not say "fixed"), the goalkeeping quality issue is clearly visible.
We'll never have a chance of signing Cassano - and I'm glad we won't. Rarely have I seen a player of such class, he was truly one of the best on the planet on his day, but he had the mental fortitude of a toddler. Subversive, impulsive, spoiled...in Italy they made up a word for his outburts, Cassanate, which sort of translate as bull***t and is a clever pun on his name.
Vader:
I don't think he is going to crack it and being loaned to 6th tier England outfit which would be well below HAL level and starting in one midweek game with the youth scrubs in Whogivesashark Cup round 3 is not an indicator of his talent. He has done zero for me in an AW shirt. He likes to play left flank and run at the right back ball at feet. He tends to keep his head down in the 1v1s 1v2s and lose possession a lot with refusal to pass out of the coverage - has elements of Fenton in not getting his head up.
I think I have a fair idea of how he will go.
Conan:
Was thinking the same thing JV. There's a bunch of kiwi kids who've been youth players at a similar level in the UK and I think Musa might be the only one for quite a while who has reached a decent level as a senior. Payne, Howieson, Lindsay - there's a couple of others whose names I can't remember of the top of my head.
Long story short - youth football for a Championship side means squat
Coohciee:
Adams, Butler....
So, Musa aside who has a MLS gig, no-one really since Chris Wood who went when he was 15 - 11 years ago.
I reckon Woud is a chance of developing.
Tighter restrictions around EU passport limits the Kiwi pool able to go; and most have struggled. Without that passport, recent opinion suggest USA is the preferred path. Not many other options out there; lower Scandinavian leagues? Where will the likes of McGarry, Rogerson go if released? Follow Fenton to Oz?
Sorry, this is off topic, but could be carried on elsewhere.
It's brutally harsh but that's the nature of the beast. This is why so many academies now try to set up the kids for a life outside football if they don't make it (like the Nix are doing).
I think it's under 5% of academy grads that are still pros within 2 years of going pro. That pathway is a huge myth
You'd think though that the caliber of Kiwi who gets picked up to go into a championship academy is higher than that of a Brit, simply because it's further to go and harder to go there. To get picked up you have to stand out internationally or to have had the wherewithal to go there yourself and trial.
Bare with me guys, but there is a guy called Byron Harrison who got signed for the Nix..... In my FIFA 15. He and Mr. WSMS are combining like crazy. Rated 62, but he has a mean right foot.
Whoever does the transfer market thing, can you look for him? He looks huge ?
I think we should sign Nicholas Price.
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This thread has been dead since the transfer window ended, so I'll attempt to revive it for all you transfer speculation enthusiasts out there. Which three dream players would you want to see sign for the Nix next season, regardless of current contracts/salary/likeliness? Doesn't have to be likely but at least be a little realistic. For me it would be Dejan Damjanovic, Jordy Buijs and Manu Garcia
This thread has been dead since the transfer window ended, so I'll attempt to revive it for all you transfer speculation enthusiasts out there. Which three dream players would you want to see sign for the Nix next season, regardless of current contracts/salary/likeliness? Doesn't have to be likely but at least be a little realistic. For me it would be Dejan Damjanovic, Jordy Buijs and Manu Garcia
Hugo Bargas, someone who's played under Kalezic before and scored goals
Rostyn Griffiths or Themi