SKY Coverage

Typical sky move given they have a monopoly. Low ball an offer for rights because there is noone else to take them. the fact they switched to a yacthing magazine show between the two Saturday night games shows how few fucks they give.

I don't think it's a monopoly issue though, they are a monopoly and they treat league well.  But that's because league has a big audience.

There's a chicken and egg thing here, they need to be convinced that there's an audience for it in order for them to invest more on the stuff around it.  But they won't grow the audience when it's treated like some marginal sport. If they're only getting 15k for Phoenix games then as a commercial matter I can understand that.  But they're going to have more time on the schedule and the A-League has to be a better bet than schoolboy rugby and netball

I think they'll find the FFA are quite aggressive on this - they're winning the battle in Aussie with Union and they want to take on league and aussie rules.

Good point re league. Didn't they leave that negotiation until the last minute too? Assume to drive the price down.

Maybe there is a Auckland factor in there? Team not from Auckland is less appealing commerically for Sky?

Edit: that was 2013. http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/8384970/Sky-NR...

League is just a lot more popular, it's probably one of the few sports that actually drives subscriptions.  So hard to compare. I think

yeah with league, while SKY has a monopoly over broadcasting warriors games in NZ, the NRL could effectively threaten to sell the rights to non-warriors games to someone else - that is where all of that value comes from. 

Wouldn't be a massive stretch to say League is now the most popular professional sport in Auckland. Warriors attendances tend to be more stable and consistent than the Blues/Auckland. You've also now got the generation that really got into League in this country (early 90s Winfield Cup) now coming through as a demographic of people picking up Sky subscriptions.

Agree that it's a chicken/egg thing, if that fewer people are watching it then why should Sky (as a commercial entity) fork out big bucks for it but hard to grow an audience with so little colour around the coverage. I also imagine, the fact they are paying so little is the reason they don't have the rights to the pre and post match stuff.

I don't get your point, the NRL has the rights to all games including the Warriors

League is a very well run machine in Australia, Football is coming from a long way back

I get the impression that Sommet's budget isn't very big - there's no way they would be able to pay anywhere near a million dollars for A-League rights.

I read somewhere that they only employ a tiny staff of half a dozen people!

There's no comparison to Sky's millions.

Sommet's only revenue is from advertising.

They've been enterprising for a small operation to negotiate a deal with Setanta Sport for the Bundesliga, Championship, Capital One Cup etc. and with Liverpool TV. Suspect they're not paying much for it though.

Heard Tim Whatsisname from Coliseum the other day on the wireless talking about getting more football (and rugby)... also mentioned something about outsourcing production (ie: OSB) for events that aren't already covered/packaged (ie: EPL/PGA).

The underlying point being, as with most things - if the numbers stack up, they could put something together where they produce the coverage. Don't forget there is infrastructure within Wellington already, the only key question is the investment required to get it to HD quality (which is "reportedly" why Trackside/TAB moved to the big "A").

If they had the right sponsor/partner (ie: FFA/NZF/OFC/VW/Carlsberg, etc) it could (eventually) happen.

Anyone know the details of Sky's deal to show Breakers and NBL games? Seems like a fairer comparison than the Warriors and NRL (Although Breakers games probably require less resources to broadcast live)

But if SKY didn't broadcast the Phoenix games then we wouldn't hear Dewhurst commentating - how would we handle watching without all that meaningful insight??

Somewhere, Dewhurst would still be talking even if no one was listening

Would certainly expect Colisuem to be all over it when the rights come up for bidding again. Wonder if they could somehow join PLP and A League together into one subscription as well as options for both individually.

They could piggy back all the additional coverage that Fox provide, like the footy show from Nine. I think Fox/SBS have highlight packages and magazine/variety style shows based on the HAL (maybe with some international coverage too)

Someone mentioned before that perhaps sky doesn't have the rights to the fox content because they pay so little. Makes sense as to why we get no additional content.

Is the message getting through 

Sommet outbid Sky for EPL rights though, which were worth 'millions'.. unfortunately for Sommet someone else bid more again

For lack of a better thread to post this, Sky have locked up rugby for another 5 years as expected.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/1065...

The way the article says it, I was wondering if it was even put out for tender or if they went to Sky and did a deal without testing the market at all.

Does sound as though the deal was just done and there was no bidding process.

Actually, interest in League and Football is fairly similar across NZ (total interested and very interested). I think the difference would be interest in the NRL and the HAL.

Again for lack of a relevant thread anywhere else, Sky have just announced their new on-demand service targeted at non-subscribers. Free 30 day trial, then $20 a month. Unclear how much stuff will actually be on there and how soon after broadcasts. No mention of sport.

https://www.neontv.co.nz/

Seems aimed at light room and not premier league pass.

The quality of skygo is really bad so will wait a while before I spend any money on a sky product.

i find image quality of skygo fine, but not streaming quality.

could be worth it if they get some shows up straight away and have a good range of new movies and older stuff.

But I suspect with it being sky, itll be old stuff and nothing will go on it until it has been shown on soho and sky movies. 

For example looking on their website it specifically says "game of thrones season 1"

They just don't get it.

Apparently they are considering season passes for sports.

Completely knackered from various exertions, I had the big Melbourne derby set to record on MySky so took an early night and got up this morning.  What a cracking game!  ..... I think ...

Can anyone tell me what happened in the last ten minutes and 8 seconds after the "end of recorded programme" appeared and the screen froze?

FFS Sky, it's not as if I don't have other issues with your performance! Grrrrrr.

I think it was because they may have been under the impression kick off was at 9:30 or just after, but it was more like 9:45 and then they never updated the epg finishing time which was 11:30 and that is why the end was missed off. pretty amateur either way. When the coverage started they just cut into it in the middle of mark rudan talking, then at half time it cut to adam peacock who usually says a couple of things before throwing to a break but sky were just like na don't want to hear from you and cut to a break before he even said anything.

Those wankers would never ever do it to the beloved thugby, but they continually do it to the A League. Do they feel threatened or something.

No; the A-League doesn't get enough viewers for them to care.

not really the point is it? 

We pay ridiculous amounts of money for a service, an additional extra that we pay for is mysky which is the ability to record programmes - so they should deliver on that service that we pay for. 

Sorry; was referring to the fact that it isn't some big conspiracy to shut down football watchers - Sky are just inept + care about the A-League less than they should because they don't get as many complainers.

Sky were updating last night when FFA cup game was on. Thats fine, recorded the replay this morning instead. 

Watching it this afternoon, It had ET of the first game, then onto the Perth V Melbourne game. Fine. 

Great game, Melbourne equalise late. Excellent. 

Extra time kicks off, and the recording cuts out! What a waste of time. 

How do you fu*k up a replay of a game? Seriously, you know in advance that the game went into ET, they had about 8 or so hours to adjust the mysky programming. 

Go to watch it on SKY go, and it's not there either. 

Is there any a-league on telly this wknd?

Yep, tonite @9.30pm sky sport 2. Perth v Newcastle

1) Went to the Melbourne City supportes forum after our 5-1 win just to see what ppl said. I found out that it's not only us that can't stand SKY's commentary team as I came across this post:

"And we have to put up with the dreadful kiwi commentary."

Will we ever get decent commentary for Nix games?

2) Why no interviews after Nix games?

The australians have been complaining about the nix commentary since they started, can't say I blame them.

On another note we had a bit of an emergency and I had to miss the first half (what a game to do that, I know) so I was desperately trying to get the nix on the radio. I ended up having to stream it because it was only on radio sport online. Radio sport itself was just playing cricket. So it turns out that Radio coverage of the nix is worse than TV coverage. Thank you LTE.

Full replay on at 6am I think Sky Sports 4