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over 12 years ago
AJ13 wrote:

Anyone else having reception issues in wellington? My sport + some other channels have been down all day - due to 'atmospheric conditions' (rain fade)



nope been perfect viewing all day - watching live aleague is mint!

Queenslander 3x a year.

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Friday nights finals game has been delayed. 

We've started the twitter campaign. Their account tweeted back that they won't show it live. They also said the popup channels have F1 at that time, which isn't true. 

We put up with games being delayed all year, but it is complete shite having finals games delayed. 

We were promised last year that things would improve this season with the introduction of the 4th channel, and with more to come. But things have got a lot worse, there are games delayed every weekend, and now the finals delayed. 

fu*k sky. 

#theskyisfalling 


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almost 12 years ago

30 minutes later, they succumed to the pressure of the Twitter campaigning and the game is now live, 9.30pm on Sky.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 12 years ago

We shouldn't have to work that hard to get games live. Especially finals games. 

I don't understand how it wasn't possible before, but now it is (after we campaigned and got Ifill working on it). 

Then they have the gall to tell us that they are passionate about football. 


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almost 12 years ago

Can the FFA put stipulations into their next TV deal with SKY which guarantees x amount of games per round live and all finals live. Maybe the FFA could split the TV deal and package Phoenix games separately from the rest of the HAL games, that would allow Sommet to bid for the non-'Nix games (I don't think they have the production capabilities). Sommet is on Sky, Freeview terrestrial and satellite. 

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almost 12 years ago

I think Sommet would delay A league more than sky, as they only have one channel. Particularly once AFL starts up. 

Needs something like PLP. Or for sky to sort their sh*t out. 


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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History
Tegal wrote:

I think Sommet would delay A league more than sky, as they only have one channel. Particularly once AFL starts up. 

Needs something like PLP. Or for sky to sort their sh*t out. 

I don't think they will, more likely to delay AFL I would hope.

Anyway, if the production costs could be isolated with 'Nix games then PLP and Sommet could get the rest and hopefully do a better job.

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almost 12 years ago

Sommet already looking at a second channel apparently, since being picked up on Skys channel 69 (hehe) theres been big demand for more sport, even more so than when they were just on Freeview.

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almost 12 years ago

I love Sommet Sports!

Get to watch Bayern in the Bundesliga now!

Don't even mind some Buli games are delayed.

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almost 12 years ago

Or an agreement with Sommet that for any A-League game that can't be shown in real time on Sky Sports (because it clashed with the lawn bowls, US golf or third grade UK rugby league) it could be shown on Sommet with maybe one hour delay rather than on Sky Sport at 3am.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 12 years ago

I love Sommet Sports!

Get to watch Bayern in the Bundesliga now!

Don't even mind some Buli games are delayed.

missed it live but caught the wolves v leyton orient game this afternoon...awesome

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

Seen they have done it again this week and the Melbourne Victory vs Brisbane Roar game is delayed!!

But I guess it is only 30mins delay on a Sunday night...

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 12 years ago

C*NTS


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almost 12 years ago

30 minutes delayed so they can show a 30 minute NRL review show.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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almost 12 years ago

And now it's live on SS5. 

All those years of whinging are finally paying off. 

Its good that they're finally listening as 2B pointed out, those pleas would have been ignored completely in the past. Amazing what a bit of competition can do! 

It's frustrating we have to work so hard to get such an important game live on tv. The fact they've caved twice shows that they can in fact just put the games on live, so it would be nice if they just did it to begin with. 


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almost 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

And now it's live on SS5. 

All those years of whinging are finally paying off. 

Its good that they're finally listening as 2B pointed out, those pleas would have been ignored completely in the past. Amazing what a bit of competition can do! 

It's frustrating we have to work so hard to get such an important game live on tv. The fact they've caved twice shows that they can in fact just put the games on live, so it would be nice if they just did it to begin with. 

I didn't thank them for finally showing it live this time like previous because we shouldn't have to go through that to get it live. It's crazy, but glad it now is. Imagine if the decided to delay rugby half an hour... Wouldn't happen.
Be funny (in a sad way) if next they delayed the final! 
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 12 years ago

It wouldn't surprise me tbh. 

I'm starting to wonder if they are just doing it to wind us up now!


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almost 12 years ago

I reckon they are going to show the final 30 minutes earlier than kick off, just to really catch us out

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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almost 12 years ago

Show the Penalty shootout live, but delay the rest of the game til right after it.

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almost 12 years ago

Hoever if you want to watch the 1992 college club final featuring Mt Albert replay, you can on Sky Sports 2,3 4 Starting at 5 minute intervals apart from each other......

Cynical, I know, but just yet another chain pull from Sky that still hasn't fucken learned that there are a lot off football fans out here. A lot more than they realise.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 12 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:

Hoever if you want to watch the 1992 college club final featuring Mt Albert replay, you can on Sky Sports 2,3 4 Starting at 5 minute intervals apart from each other......



is this a joke ? Please let it be !


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almost 12 years ago

It was but ithink you will find that this is exactly the sort of contempt that Sky treats its non Rugby die hards. I guess they still feel threatened by the "soft poofter soccer" player cliche that seemed to rule the country up until the 1982 World Cup.

Ive looked at Sommet and Setanta and I believe there is enough football world wide at any single point of time to show a different game 24/7. Id like to see us get South American footie, Scottish, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Asian  hamps League, j League, K League, MSL, etc etc. ENOUGH for it's own channel and it doesn't have to be live but could be and not that expensive.  Fox in Ausiie if you a decent choice as did SBS.

I stand to be corrected of course but this how I see it.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 12 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:

It was but ithink you will find that this is exactly the sort of contempt that Sky treats its non Rugby die hards. I guess they still feel threatened by the "soft poofter soccer" player cliche that seemed to rule the country up until the 1982 World Cup.

Ive looked at Sommet and Setanta and I believe there is enough football world wide at any single point of time to show a different game 24/7. Id like to see us get South American footie, Scottish, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, Asian  hamps League, j League, K League, MSL, etc etc. ENOUGH for it's own channel and it doesn't have to be live but could be and not that expensive.  Fox in Ausiie if you a decent choice as did SBS.

I stand to be corrected of course but this how I see it.


You are correct but this is not necessarily an "anti-sokah" attitude but simply a case of Sky trying to push product they think the paying publicwants to see. They probably assume that you can't go wrong with more rugby. They probably don't know if showing more football means people would tune in or out. And then there is the usual mental complacency common to any monopoly. How else did they manage to lose the EPL rights to Sommet?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 12 years ago · edited almost 12 years ago · History

True, I think there is a market whereby most of the major sports would have an audience if they were given the exposure. Eg, the Netball. It has gobne from a rarely shown sport to one where all the games from the ANZ League are shown live. And good on them. The NZ public might be a bit more savey than Sky gives them credit for. A lot of people will watch pretty much any sport if it is "Live".

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 12 years ago
Mainland FC wrote:

How else did they manage to lose the EPL rights to Sommet?


Actually lost to PLP - SKY and Sommet have basically picked up the scraps with the "Insert Club Here" TV's.
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almost 12 years ago

I still prefer PLP. Mostly because I like watching the games live, I do also watch teams outside the main 6. Plus I can't stand the commentary on those channels sky and sommet have. 

But yeah they've relegated PLP into a niche market really. Which is something you'd hope coliseum (PLP) would have anticipated anyway. 


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almost 12 years ago

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.



"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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almost 12 years ago
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.



Never mind the NZ football though - who'd watch that shite?!

Auckland City FC

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almost 12 years ago
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.


Going on anecdotal evidence, aren't football fans in those countries more likely to support a team in Europe than a local team than is the case in NZ?

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almost 12 years ago

Personally they can keep the EPL as I enjoy watching the championship and Npower games

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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almost 12 years ago
Bullion wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.


Going on anecdotal evidence, aren't football fans in those countries more likely to support a team in Europe than a local team than is the case in NZ?



Not necessarily. Having moved from Sydney to Christchurch in 1993, I support the Mighty 'Nix and not WSW let alone Syd FC.
But then again, my old club (Sydney City) no longer exists.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 12 years ago

Get Scottish football on there and I know several people would pay $10 a month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 12 years ago
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.


I'm genuinely intrigued as to why people still keep banging this drum. As far as I am aware, the Rugby Channel runs at a pretty major loss for Sky what makes people think a Football specific channel would be any different? When the ratings for the Premier League don't justify them outbidding an Internet start-up, how could they justify product on a specific channel that would rate dramatically less than the Premier League?

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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almost 12 years ago
bopman wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.


I'm genuinely intrigued as to why people still keep banging this drum. As far as I am aware, the Rugby Channel runs at a pretty major loss for Sky what makes people think a Football specific channel would be any different? When the ratings for the Premier League don't justify them outbidding an Internet start-up, how could they justify product on a specific channel that would rate dramatically less than the Premier League?

moneyspinner it may be but far too much emphasis on the premier league here, theres lots of good football out there aside of the premier league

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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almost 12 years ago
paullt wrote:
bopman wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.


I'm genuinely intrigued as to why people still keep banging this drum. As far as I am aware, the Rugby Channel runs at a pretty major loss for Sky what makes people think a Football specific channel would be any different? When the ratings for the Premier League don't justify them outbidding an Internet start-up, how could they justify product on a specific channel that would rate dramatically less than the Premier League?

moneyspinner it may be but far too much emphasis on the premier league here, theres lots of good football out there aside of the premier league

But Sky is a business. I'm sure you would agree that Premier League is likely to rate the highest of any football product coming into NZ (outside of the WC/Euros)? If they can't justify the business decision to spend the money to keep that, why would they spend money on the rest of the stuff which is likely to rate even lower? Or create a specific channel for a bunch of stuff that isn't likely to rate.

www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com

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almost 12 years ago
Steve-O wrote:

Get Scottish football on there and I know several people would pay $10 a month.

Was thinking this the other day actually. But wondering if it'd be something PLP should pick up. There would be a few interested I reckon, plus the rights probably wouldn't cost that much. 

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almost 12 years ago
bopman wrote:
paullt wrote:
bopman wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:

It makes you wonder if SKY have considered the massive immigrant population here.

Have a 24/7 dedicated football channel that is say $10 a month additional, and show the Japanese, Korean, Chinese leagues for instance. Supplement it with La Liga, Serie A etc and you have an enticing value proposition.


I'm genuinely intrigued as to why people still keep banging this drum. As far as I am aware, the Rugby Channel runs at a pretty major loss for Sky what makes people think a Football specific channel would be any different? When the ratings for the Premier League don't justify them outbidding an Internet start-up, how could they justify product on a specific channel that would rate dramatically less than the Premier League?

moneyspinner it may be but far too much emphasis on the premier league here, theres lots of good football out there aside of the premier league

But Sky is a business. I'm sure you would agree that Premier League is likely to rate the highest of any football product coming into NZ (outside of the WC/Euros)? If they can't justify the business decision to spend the money to keep that, why would they spend money on the rest of the stuff which is likely to rate even lower? Or create a specific channel for a bunch of stuff that isn't likely to rate.

happy to agree that currently the premier league would rate highest but given that there is a lot of immigration from the british isles maybe volume over quality might work better given that there are a lot of supporters who support teams outside of the premier league

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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almost 12 years ago

To be honest I would watch a World Game Show from SBS TV anytime if it was syndicated here. I used to watch it for decades in my days in Oz, and even after I moved here in 1993 (thanks to Optus satellite which apparently is now gone since the Tasmanian SBS feed now goes from Victoria via underwater cable). It consistently produced (and still does) the best summary and highlights of games from major leagues, and screens internationals and club cup games (at least some which could be seen on Sommet now). EPL is only "one of the" rather than "the" product on SBS, but that probably reflects the population/migration mix in Australia where continental football remains part of immigrant heritage.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 12 years ago

Yeah I would 100% buy a prempass type thing if it existed for the Scottish league. It's nothing to do with quality of football (obviously!) but you support who you support and if I could get up every Sunday morning and watch a Hibs game, I'd be delighted. There are loads of Scots in NZ, permanently or temporarily, and almost all still want to watch their teams.

Rugby channel probably doesn't do well as a lot of the content is already on Sky Sport. Would not be the case with a football channel.

Either that, or just give us Setanta from Aussie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 12 years ago

Don't forget that the EPL rights would be MUCH more expensive than SPL and all other foreign league rights. So Sky wouldn't have to pay too much.

Frankly I think their MUTV etc is a waste of money. I've never watched any of those games and don't know many that do as those that are big EPL fans probably have prempass already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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