So we are censoring now?

So we are censoring now?

Posts between me and another member have been deleted in the 'throwing' thread.

don't like it? start your own forum Frankie Mac2007-10-24 19:20:54

That's pretty sh*t.

Maybe I missed the post in question. I didn't see anything remotely worthy of moderation.

i agree with the mods  - some people (including me) benefit from censorship from time to time

not really, you don't have unlimited right to post whatever. There's freedom of speech laws, yet that doesn't mean you can just walk up to someone and abuse them. I know you wouldn't do that but you get my point...there's always boundaries even on the interweb

Rubbish.  Your new post was moved as there was already a thread that covered the point.  The rules quite clearly ask you to place it in a suitable thread if one already exists.

The majority of the media stories about 'crowd trouble' have emanated from comments on this forum.  Many of those comments have not accurately reflected what has actually occured at the stadium and for obvious reasons we see no reason to condone that or posts that will inflame the situation.

Last night there were a lot of ill-informed opinions being batted around.  I don't remember deleting your fight (I did read some of it) but I had to delete a pile of stuff and it may have got caught in the cross fire.

If so sorry.
Hard News2007-10-24 19:44:13

no we wont delete this thread. We only delete threads with petty arguing between two people who might as well PM each other,  or threads which are set up which cover the same ground as several other ones.

Oh I think I might have answered your question there..

If you want the forum unmoderated then good luck picking through the crap.

I agree with you Cosimo. I suppose my beef is that my postings were censored yet they weren't even what I'd consider slanderous, offensive etc.  I called something he did 'stupid', he disagreed and called me patronising, I said i still thought he was stupid and we childishly went back and forth a bit.

sweet as

But something that should be PM'd to each other.

Reading HN's post, I accept that may well have happened, I've seen it before when certain posts are deleted and others connected to them through 'quotes' etc end up being erased too. If so, I'm pleased to hear it.

sounds like you are arguing with me

If you hear or read some of the reports it gives the impression that multiple people threw a barrage of bottles at the Mariners players.  This was posted here and was the impression certain parts of the media had by Tuesday morning.

As you can see that is a completely different thing to one idiot throwing a bottle.

Disagreements occur in the stands, many less than I have seen at most Rugby or Cricket matches I have attended, but if you read some of the emotive clap trap on here it sounded like a 80's english terrace which is quite patently untrue.

That's before I start on the 'it wouldn't even make the news in greece' or 'he should have aimed for the referee' rubbish.

The media (and ourselves) have chosen to make this Yellow Fever's challenge to resolve and in order to that we will maintain a tight reign on this forum for a while.  Much as we did when the mayoral candidates were in.

(...and you don't see half the trolls like Tanas left ear, or whatever his name is).
Hard News2007-10-24 20:04:33

I agree that the YF fishheads are doing the right thing in attempting to resolve this overall situation. In that spirit I accept my little postings are colateral damage and give a hearty endorsement to you guys for doing something and not sitting on your hands ( and I'm not being facetious sp?? either).

I think this forum's pretty well moderated actually. The Partick Thistle fan site which I'm a member of, and which is extremely well moderated, has been threatened with legal action on more than one occasion because of comments or allegations which have been posted on there. I'm not suggesting this might happen to YF, but recent events might be a wee reminder that we should remember what we post is open to a far wider audience than YF and might be open to misinterpretation or misrepresentation.

yeah i couldnt believe it when i saw and read in some media that "several bottles" were thrown, and from "many parts of the crowd". It was one bottle (though someone said 2?), and from one part of the ground...it was wrong...but we were all made to look like hooligans (tv 3 even showed clips of football violence in england..).

dude my posts are deleted all the time, dont worry about it. The mods are afraid we will be quoted on the news because TV3 used that "throwing" thread in their news item about the bottle incident. The media also frequent this site and think what some idiots say are the opinions of everyone here.

We also need to be careful we don't make generalisations on the media as well.

While TV3's item did have some British items (I believe one was Scottish) the rest of the item was pretty balanced and reasonable.

Even within one media organisation, the difference between one staff memeber and another can be significant as well.

Thats true, different reporters doing different views on football. TV3 have been very good to us, which is why it surprised me a lot when they were comparing one bottle being thrown, with hooliganism in britain.

^^^^^^