Steven Old-The most overated player in NZ ever!
Steven Old-The most overated player in NZ ever!
What has Steven Old ever done?
He made then NZ U/17 as Paul Smalley's little prodigy and was
named captain, the team didnt make it past the Oceania
qualifers!
Was an average player at Manawatu and that comes directly from
players who played with him, then Ricki talked Newcastle into
signing him where he was terrible and hardly played!
This guy is rubbish and its a joke the Phoneix have signed
him. Look at who else you could have signed:
1. Ben Sigmund
2. Johnathon Perry
3. Ricki Van Steeden
4. Greg Uhlman
5. Adam Birch
6. Matt Adams
7. Dan Terris
8. Danny Hay
I watched Kerryn Jordan make him look like an idiot, it was
hilarious.....
What is going on?
Ricki lives or dies by his selections. He's made the decision
that Old has the potential to be an A-League defender and time will
prove if he's right or wrong.
Laying in to him before he has played a match for the club is pretty rubbish TBH... and you can keep some of that list thanks.
Laying in to him before he has played a match for the club is pretty rubbish TBH... and you can keep some of that list thanks.
well said HN. Give the guy a chance before we sl*g him to
bits
My judgements have been made on his performaces for:
1. Manawatu-Poor
2. Newcastle- harldy played he was that bad
3. All Whites- Absolute liability
If you have half a football brain, he would be at the bottom
of that list. hes not half the player Perry is, but hey its all
about young talent.
Old is a player who has be given everything, he hasnt earnt a
dam thing!
Send him back to the NZFC to earn his contract.
I didnt know the Phoneix were a charity
star21,
I can understand your prejudice as he certainly hasn't been
proven, but why don't you actually suggest some
decent players?
My 2 cents worth below, comments in Red (not good), Green
(neutral) and Blue (good) - only one of them would be worth signing
ahead of Old, and some of the others must be your mates or
something as the suggestion of them is illogical...
What has Steven Old ever done?
This guy is rubbish and its a joke the Phoneix have signed
him. Look at who else you could have signed:
1. Ben Sigmund
Good potential and definitely worth a
look
2. Johnathon Perry
Ha! You're having a laugh - he has
already proved he isn't A-League standard
3. Ricki Van Steeden
Kicky van Studs-in - one of the biggest donkey journeymen around whi will get 5 red cards a season
Kicky van Studs-in - one of the biggest donkey journeymen around whi will get 5 red cards a season
4. Greg Uhlman
You're taking the piss here I
presume?
5. Adam Birch
Haven't seen enough of him to comment
fairly
6. Matt Adams
I would be surprised if he could cut it
in the A-League - I'd put him on a par with Old
7. Dan Terris
Haven't seen enough of him to comment
fairly
8. Danny Hay
The team already has enough Chiefs - he
is too disruptive and is looking like his legs won't go another
full season
Personally I think JP was much maligned. He was a good player
for the Kingz, but age is probably getting beyond him now.
Hard News2007-06-26 15:12:24
Hard News2007-06-26 15:12:24
What has Steven Old ever done?
He made then NZ U/17 as Paul Smalley's little prodigy and was
named captain, the team didnt make it past the Oceania
qualifers!
Was an average player at Manawatu and that comes directly from
players who played with him, then Ricki talked Newcastle into
signing him where he was terrible and hardly played!
This guy is rubbish and its a joke the Phoneix have signed
him. Look at who else you could have signed:
1. Ben Sigmund
2. Johnathon Perry
3. Ricki Van Steeden
4. Greg Uhlman
5. Adam Birch
6. Matt Adams
7. Dan Terris
8. Danny Hay
I watched Kerryn Jordan make him look like an idiot, it was
hilarious.....
What is going on?
So what are you actually suggesting? Like it or not the
guy has signed, will be playing this year, and is a professional
footballer. Personally I'd much rather have a young guy with
the potential to improve but thats my opinion...at the end of the
day what does sl*gging him off like this (1) prove or (2)
achieve? What is your point?
ah, keyboard warriors... maybe we should run a poll and see if we
should set a policy that if you want to lay in to someone
publically you should have the balls to use your own name, not a
pseudonym ?
...or at least own up to your pseudonym
...or at least own up to your pseudonym
sigmund - i reckon he'd go great guns
perry - liked him with the kingz and stood out for auckland at
the world club champs
van steeden - i like him too; not as good as perry and
sigmund, but a good old fashioned hard b@stard
uhlmann - nice pick, very under rated. might get a
regular run for auckland now that perry has retired
birch - not sure about this one
adams - ditto, but very good at nzfc level
terris - good solid player
hay - agree with cnut
old - still in the promising phase. i agree he has had
it quite easy, and nzf have spent a lot of money on him going to
parma and all and he has yet to really perform, but let's see
how he goes
Da Selekta2007-06-26 15:24:18
Hell star21 ? Did Old sleep with your sister or something
?
Firstly, I don't think Old is there to start lineup. More as a
reserve, banch player (wait until braasil boys arrive).
Secondly, He's still young enough to be given a look in.
I'm no Old fan, and have even taken the time to bag the guy on
the odd occaision, but I think the criticism in this thread was a
bit OTT.
What is the point? Did you miss out on something? We could give him
a chance first then if he is not up to it have a crack.
Old is rubbish - whether Ricki can change my mind on him is yet to
be seen, but I aint holding my breath
Not alot of love in this thread..... Last year was only his first
year of professional football so I'm sure he was on a steep
learning curve.... in terms of not achieving anything he had a
pretty good college career in the states at a good school.... so I
think give him time and he will develop into a good a league
defender, i mean how many defenders are in their prime when they
are 21
This must be voted best post today..
What happens if Stephen reads this..
So what you don't like him, get your priorites in order.
At least he ain't no John Markovich or Con
Boutsanis or Kalagouris or Pederson.
(sh*t they are all Greek to me)
Dino102007-06-26 17:01:05
Sigmund is the only good player on the list. For his sake I
hope he gets picked up by a different A league franchise. I
know it would be great to see him with the WP but he has been
stuffed around for years by Herbert and NZF. They only became
intrested when they realised he was off to Aus to try and make a go
of things. Perry to Old. Van Steeden To old and
Sh&t. Uhlman to old and slow. Birtch to old and
slow. Adams good player but not good enough. Terris
same as adams. Hay.......I won't go there. I'm happy with Old
as a signing Will be keen to learn and already knows what standard
the A league is. If any of the players in the list are able
to step up I'm sure it will be him (except for my boyfriend Benny)
I haven't seen too much of Old but he looked pretty hapless when
playing for the all whites, but the Phoenix signed him as a reserve
and he is young, so I think he deserves a chance and if he isn't up
to A league standard by the end of the season release him.
Old was also on the boos at Parma in Italy for a couple of years -
give him a chance - also he didn't look great for the AllWhites in
South America but then he was plaing ion a back 3 with Bunce and
Hay and they're slower than me.
I don't think this is a bashing thread against Old, it is purely
just "facts and figures" most of us saw Newcastle play a couple of
times last season and the All Whites South American tour.
I hope he proves us wrong but going by past performances I
cannot see him getting on the pitch very often.
But what are you suggesting Phoenix management do, release
him? I just don't see the point in starting a thread saying
that one of our plyers, who none of us have even seen play for us,
is rubbish. I just don't understand that mentality...
Who are you criticising star21, Old or Herbert? Do you
really think Herbert has no idea?
james dean2007-06-26 21:25:29
Hell star21 ? Did Old sleep with your sister or something
?
Give old a go.
Personally I think one of the reasons he looked so bad for the
all whites was the fact he had Hay and Bunce next to him, the quick
South American strikers ran all day and those two watch
going...ohhh that looked good.
At the castle he got injured remember whch cut down his time
aswell.
Old needs towork on his distribution, but that can come, in
the air he is excellent and he does read the game reasonably well,
just needs to be quicker to react.
Has the potential.
I am sure Oldy is mature enough to take this bullsh*t but what
worries me is that his dad is an ex all black with fists the size
of HAMS HAHA give the kid a break for christ sakes
Tall Poppy Syndrome in NZ is rife
Wha if he plays all games and we win the AL
Will he still be sh*te???
Sigmund is the only one on the list that is currently up to the
standard, im a bit gutted he didnt get signed, but RH knows what
hes doing.
Hay WAS great and Perry wasnt too shabby in his day, but dude, wake up...im thinking Kingzfan is onto something with Old and the angry chap's sister
Hay WAS great and Perry wasnt too shabby in his day, but dude, wake up...im thinking Kingzfan is onto something with Old and the angry chap's sister
Its good to see that most replies have been posative of Old in this
forum so far. Star 21 you're speaking some absolute smack here!
Firstly when Steve was first selected for the all whites he made his debut as a late replacement aginst Aus at centre back in a 1-0 loss. May i add that he did not play in the crucial game against Vanuatu in a game that led to the all whites not making it past the oceania qualifiers. Ryan Nelson was playing center back in that game an we all know how good a player he is so would you not sign him or any of the other all whites who havnt made it past oceania qualifiers? You would lose half the squad mate!
Secondly i dont think you can report it as a fact that Oldie was average at Manawatu. Collin Tua surely rated him there and if you talked to most of the players there i think they would tell you he was pretty handy even though he was only 16 and 17 at the time!
Firstly when Steve was first selected for the all whites he made his debut as a late replacement aginst Aus at centre back in a 1-0 loss. May i add that he did not play in the crucial game against Vanuatu in a game that led to the all whites not making it past the oceania qualifiers. Ryan Nelson was playing center back in that game an we all know how good a player he is so would you not sign him or any of the other all whites who havnt made it past oceania qualifiers? You would lose half the squad mate!
Secondly i dont think you can report it as a fact that Oldie was average at Manawatu. Collin Tua surely rated him there and if you talked to most of the players there i think they would tell you he was pretty handy even though he was only 16 and 17 at the time!
Yep, totally agree. he is no dud (yet). let him get on the park and
show what he can do. New team, new players, new management. Why rip
into him when he's hardly kicked a ball for us? And I don't think
Ricki had to convince any other teams to sign him either. this
thread as started by star21 is way over the top!
I fully agree with star21.
I know nothing about football but if Steven Old can be a
professional footballer then I may as well be a suga daddy at the
caketins local asian brothel.
Old is useless.
Star 21 I think your also forgetting that Old is a sizeable young
lad with years ahead of him as a professional footballer! Sure he
may have scored your sister but thats no reason to hold a grudge!
when Oldie scores the winning goal for the phoenix in the grand
final he will be an even greater new zealand hero than he allready
is!
Just a tip, people tend to listen to you more Heggarty if you
profess to know something about football
Old was also on the boos at Parma in Italy for a couple of years -
give him a chance - also he didn't look great for the AllWhites in
South America but then he was plaing ion a back 3 with Bunce and
Hay and they're slower than me.
Old only spent a week or two trialing at parma and didnt make
the youth side. Some of you guys need to stop rating players on
which club they play for or country they are from.
Just a tip, people tend to listen to you more Heggarty if you
profess to know something about football
It's okay, no one listens to Heggarty...
I've said this somewhere on here before, but to me Old's career has suffered a bit due to the weight of expectation.
He was "the next big thing", made captain of the under 20s (I
think) at age 17, rushed into the AWs straight after that and it's
no wonder that he has stalled a bit. He's certainly got the raw
material to be an excellent player over the next decade or
so.
He's a good signing by a good coach who himself played in
the exact same position.
Just a tip, people tend to listen to you more Heggarty if you
profess to know something about football
It's okay, no one listens to Heggarty...
Argh Hardnews, how many times do I have to tell you.
Miyazawa was the greatest defender that has ever set foot in
New Zealand.
pfft old, sign Miyazawa.
Thats it Im telling oldys bigest fan....you guys are in for it!
Old was also on the boos at Parma in Italy for a couple of years -
give him a chance - also he didn't look great for the AllWhites in
South America but then he was plaing ion a back 3 with Bunce and
Hay and they're slower than me.
Old only spent a week or two trialing at parma and didnt make
the youth side. Some of you guys need to stop rating players on
which club they play for or country they are from.
He did go to parma twice tho.
what a load of crap - the guys got the goods, just needs a couple
of good wins to build his confidence and some support around him.
Are you people forgetting the Brazil game, played out of his skin
against the best attack in the world, when his captain and other CB
went off injured. Now his second season of pro football - he will
grow and this silly page will be laughed about