Excuse me, but weren't we playing away from home tonight. Thought
so. Then FFS why did we play Felipe, Daniel and Elrich in the same
side? They are loathe to track back and exposes or midefield and
defence.
I would have thought that with an inexperienced centre pairing at the back RH would've given them more help in front of them.
One defensive midfielder, two central midelfielders (tack your pick) and then two of either Felipe, Daniel or Elrich providing some ammo for Smeltz.
Sod playing pretty football - it's ugly when you get hammered 4-1.What matters is winning.
Despite my signature, Felipe was poor.
I would have thought that with an inexperienced centre pairing at the back RH would've given them more help in front of them.
One defensive midfielder, two central midelfielders (tack your pick) and then two of either Felipe, Daniel or Elrich providing some ammo for Smeltz.
Sod playing pretty football - it's ugly when you get hammered 4-1.What matters is winning.
Despite my signature, Felipe was poor.
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its been the last 2 weeks now when ive queried rickys tactics.Old
definatley should not have started and i challenge any1 to think
otherwise.and the bench!two defensive midfielders and covs.tim
brown shouldve started with lia coming on more as an impact.george
or ferrante needed to be on the bench.whats the story.o and what
does happen wen lets say o'dor does a hammy.whos going back to
centre back.covs hahafelipe2007-10-28 22:00:21
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"At one stage Wellington had five corner kicks in the space of two
minutes but couldn't find a hole in the opposition's defence".
Guess it sums it up.
I say tackle him in the face.
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its been the last 2 weeks now when ive queried rickys tactics.Old
definatley should not have started and i challenge any1 to think
otherwise.and the bench!two defensive midfielders and covs.tim
brown shouldve started with lia coming on more as an impact.george
or ferrante needed to be on the bench.whats the story.o and what
does happen wen lets say o'dor does a hammy.whos going back to
centre back.covs haha
Old had to start, we had no fit centrebacks - Clebo out with hammy, Dodd suspended.
RH had no choice.
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sorry was unaware clebo was injured.but really george paladini
wouldve probly dnt better.arghhhhhh im annoyed
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Could have played with 3 around the back, 5 in midfeild and 2 up
front
I say tackle him in the face.
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Could have played with 3 around the back, 5 in midfeild and 2 up
front
Would've asked for trouble. And the three at the back would have been?
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Moss
Lockhead, O'dor, Christie
Daniel, Ferrente, Aloisi, Brown, Elrich
Smeltz, Felliepe
I say tackle him in the face.
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i got faith in ferrante ay.couldnt finish his dinner but does some
nice stuff around the park(with the exception of the opposing
goalbox)
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[QUOTE=felipe]i got faith in ferrante ay.couldnt finish his dinner
but does some nice stuff around the park(with the exception of the
opposing goalbox)[/QUOTE
Exactly, he is a solid footballer.
Also been part of a winning championship side, so he knows
what its about and what it takes.
I say tackle him in the face.
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Moss
Lockhead, O'dor, Christie
Daniel, Ferrente, Aloisi, Brown, Elrich
Smeltz, Felliepe
Why play three at the back against the league's most potent goalscoring team - a formation we haven't played all year?
Playing away from home is when you want to give them nothing and nick something on the counter.
I would have prefered:
Moss/Paston (either/or)
Christie Old O'Dor Lochhead
Brown
Elrich Johnson Ferrante Daniel
Smeltz
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Defending solidly and nicking something on the counter is a nice
idea, except that Adelaide are better on the counter (we're not bad
either), but I just felt like we were going to concede a goal
nearly every time Adelaide got into our half tonight. You never
quite had the confidence that one of the centre backs would
always be there to clean up.
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we can never start wit old again.we need a right back too
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Moss
Lockhead, O'dor, Christie
Daniel, Ferrente, Aloisi, Brown, Elrich
Smeltz, Felliepe
Why play three at the back against the league's most potent goalscoring team - a formation we haven't played all year?
Playing away from home is when you want to give them nothing and nick something on the counter.
I would have prefered:
Moss/Paston (either/or)
Christie Old O'Dor Lochhead
Brown
Elrich Johnson Ferrante Daniel
Smeltz
You really don't like Aloisi do you.
I think he's good there, instead of Johnson
I say tackle him in the face.
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Moss
Lockhead, O'dor, Christie
Daniel, Ferrente, Aloisi, Brown, Elrich
Smeltz, Felliepe
Why play three at the back against the league's most potent goalscoring team - a formation we haven't played all year?
Playing away from home is when you want to give them nothing and nick something on the counter.
I would have prefered:
Moss/Paston (either/or)
Christie Old O'Dor Lochhead
Brown
Elrich Johnson Ferrante Daniel
Smeltz
You really don't like Aloisi do you.
I think he's good there, instead of Johnson
You're right, for a 'star' player he's less than stellar IMO.
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3 at the back? we can't handle them with 4, we should be looking at
5.
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3 at the back? we can't handle them with 4, we should be looking at
5.
My thoughts exactly, we should look at playing four backs and a sweeper
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I also question the bench we had yesterday. Johnson and Brown
probably should have both started, and why's Coveny in the mix at
all right now? He's offered next to nothing as a forward with the
exception of the game against Perth. When he came on the corner of
the Fever Lounge where we were sitting groaned very audibly.
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By starting Felipe,Daniel and Elrich we went into the game in
attack mode. Against the best attacking side in the league at
home......well HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!! 1-4 what did we
expect?.
How about help shoring up the defense with a couple of defensive
midfielders, Brown and Johnston would have helped.Then try and play
getting everyone behind the ball and attack at set plays. We would
be rapt with a boring 0-0 draw away.
Now we have to go to Perth and play for the wooden spoon and
to make matters worse our next home game on the 17th is against
Sydney, who we can beat. But we will be missing our coach and 5 of
our better players on World cup duties!
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yea, interesting we didnt play two defensive midfielders as we have
in other games in front of an inexperienced back four. Cant agree
with playing three at the back though, think we needed more in
front of the back four
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yea, interesting we didnt play two defensive midfielders as we have
in other games in front of an inexperienced back four. Cant agree
with playing three at the back though, think we needed more in
front of the back four
Completely agree.
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yea, interesting we didnt play two defensive midfielders as we have
in other games in front of an inexperienced back four. Cant agree
with playing three at the back though, think we needed more in
front of the back four
Completely agree.
Yep.I'm with that.
Especially if you play Felipe, Daniel and Elrich (all who
struggle to get behind the ball) in the same team away from home!
Madness.
It meant we essentially only had two in front of our back four
as the aformentioned trio were on walkabout up the park.
Play Brown in front of the centrebacks in that
holding/defensive midfield role - win the ball and
distribute.
Play Ferrante and Johnson in the middle of the park ahead of
him (both have great engines and more pace than Aloisi and
Ferrante's passing game is very good).
Then Elrich and Daniel playing wide right and left with Smeltz
up front.
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We've played two holding midfileders all season until this game and
we've still conceded a lot of goals.
Doesn't matter how many holding midfielders you play if your
defence is that bad.
Brown should've been starting, he was superb last week. I
would've had him in for Lia.
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you can have all the tactics in the world, but at the end of the day, if your team:
1. Continues to surrender possession so easy.
2. has no pace.
3. your midfielders (captain) do not track back, because he
cant...
4. does not communicate....
5. full backs who do not want to get forward.
6. the defenders panic everytime the ball comes near our
box.
Basically, RH had a few months to put this team together and
we are all expecting to much to soon, RH is no fool and if he is
getting it wrong in 12 months then yes lets have a go then!!.
He knows we need a commanding centre half who talks... he
knows we need full backs and he knows as a team we are very
pedestrian.
If i have one concern about RHs reign, it has been is "want to
play attractive football" vision. I obviously agree with this, but
lets make us very well organised and difficult to beat first, the
attractive football needs to be built on solid foundations, and we
ahve not got this.
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you can have all the tactics in the world, but at the end of the day, if your team:
1. Continues to surrender possession so easy.
2. has no pace.
3. your midfielders (captain) do not track back, because he
cant...
4. does not communicate....
5. full backs who do not want to get forward.
6. the defenders panic everytime the ball comes near our
box.
Basically, RH had a few months to put this team together and
we are all expecting to much to soon, RH is no fool and if he is
getting it wrong in 12 months then yes lets have a go then!!.
He knows we need a commanding centre half who talks... he
knows we need full backs and he knows as a team we are very
pedestrian.
If i have one concern about RHs reign, it has been is "want to
play attractive football" vision. I obviously agree with this, but
lets make us very well organised and difficult to beat first, the
attractive football needs to be built on solid foundations, and we
ahve not got this.
I think our fullbacks do usually get forward, especially
Lochhead.
They weren't themselves yesterday though. Think Christies
confidence is shot after the CCM game at home.
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you can have all the tactics in the world, but at the end of the day, if your team:
1. Continues to surrender possession so easy.
2. has no pace.
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3. your midfielders (captain) do not track back, because he
cant...
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4. does not communicate....
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5. full backs who do not want to get forward.
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6. the defenders panic everytime the ball comes near our
box.
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Basically, RH had a few months to put this team together and
we are all expecting to much to soon, RH is no fool and if he is
getting it wrong in 12 months then yes lets have a go then!!.
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He knows we need a commanding centre half who talks... he
knows we need full backs and he knows as a team we are very
pedestrian.
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If i have one concern about RHs reign, it has been is "want to
play attractive football" vision. I obviously agree with this, but
lets make us very well organised and difficult to beat first, the
attractive football needs to be built on solid foundations, and we
ahve not got this.
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I think our fullbacks do usually get forward, especially
Lochhead.
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They weren't themselves yesterday though. Think Christies
confidence is shot after the CCM game at home.
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My impression was that it was the team tactic not to push the fullbacks forward, to provide Old and O'Dor with more help. Didn't work in the end though.
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