What will be the team for Fridays game against Sydney.?
Brown,Lia and Daniel definetly out.
Probably Rickie will field the same team that played so well against the Jets. Brown will be replaced by Johnno or even Aloisi if he's fit. Dodd will be back in defense for sure. Replacing Lia on the left will be more difficult....probably the best option is to move a natural lefty like Lockhead up in his place.
I would like to see O'dor in place of Old. My nerves could'nt take another 90 mins like the Jets game.
Moss
O'dor Dodd Rees
Lockhead Ferrante Johnno Felipe Elrich
Smeltz Coveny
Brown,Lia and Daniel definetly out.
Probably Rickie will field the same team that played so well against the Jets. Brown will be replaced by Johnno or even Aloisi if he's fit. Dodd will be back in defense for sure. Replacing Lia on the left will be more difficult....probably the best option is to move a natural lefty like Lockhead up in his place.
I would like to see O'dor in place of Old. My nerves could'nt take another 90 mins like the Jets game.
Moss
O'dor Dodd Rees
Lockhead Ferrante Johnno Felipe Elrich
Smeltz Coveny
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Thats probably the team I would have aswell.
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looks like a decent side, but I'm not sure about O'Dor as a wide
defender - he looked woeful against CCM in that position early in
the season
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Yes, I agree about O'dor....but its him or Old..take your pick.
Playing what are essentially 3 centrebacks in defense does leave us exposed for pace, but there are not a lot of options. Personally I think Rickie will play Old again. He seems to have a lot of faith in him.
Playing what are essentially 3 centrebacks in defense does leave us exposed for pace, but there are not a lot of options. Personally I think Rickie will play Old again. He seems to have a lot of faith in him.
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Yep that would be the best line-up. I thought Daniel was gonna be
back for the 4th.
ps I'd clone Dodd not Rees
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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But is Lochhead a 'natural lefty'? I've only ever seen him on the
right this season, and I assume this is where he is comfortable.
Granted we don't have a great range of options but I think it
would be better to keep him on the right, perhaps even as part of a
back four.
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StopOut, when Locky looks like he's on the right on your tv screen,
he's really on the left on the field!!!! He's never played on the
right!
Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet
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He's only on the right if you watch it standing on your
head!!!!!
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But is Lochhead a 'natural lefty'? I've only ever seen him on the
right this season, and I assume this is where he is comfortable.
Granted we don't have a great range of options but I think it
would be better to keep him on the right, perhaps even as part of a
back four.
Strange, I must be watching different games to you as Ive only
ever seen him play on the left. 

I think that line up with Old not Odor should be the starting
line up. I dont think that is what will start though. Ricki will
start Brown as his captain.
A dog with a bone :)
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StopOut, when Locky looks like he's on the right on your tv screen,
he's really on the left on the field!!!! He's never played on the
right!
Uhh....ooooh yeah.
Further reddening of the face already scarlet from way too much sun
and rum and cokes. Guess I should finally call it quits and go to
bed!
Further reddening of the face already scarlet from way too much sun
and rum and cokes. Guess I should finally call it quits and go to
bed!
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I thought Daniel was gonna be back for the 4th.
2 game suspension for getting 7 yellows over the season.
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But hasn't daniel now missed 2 games? or has december just been a
big drunken blur for me?
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Daniel, Lia and Brown are all out for this match with
suspensions!!
I think it will be
Moss
Old Rees Dodd
Elrich Ferrante Johnno Felipe Lockhead
Smeltz Coveny
Subs Odor, Christie, Draper, Paston
Ricky hasnt changed much when we have won and he seems to favour Old even if most on here dont.
I think it will be
Moss
Old Rees Dodd
Elrich Ferrante Johnno Felipe Lockhead
Smeltz Coveny
Subs Odor, Christie, Draper, Paston
Ricky hasnt changed much when we have won and he seems to favour Old even if most on here dont.
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he's only missed one fitz, have you got any L&P in the
fridge?
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What will be the team for Fridays game against Sydney.?
Brown,Lia and Daniel definetly out.
Probably Rickie will field the same team that played so well against the Jets. Brown will be replaced by Johnno or even Aloisi if he's fit. Dodd will be back in defense for sure. Replacing Lia on the left will be more difficult....probably the best option is to move a natural lefty like Lockhead up in his place.
I would like to see O'dor in place of Old. My nerves could'nt take another 90 mins like the Jets game.
Moss
O'dor Dodd Rees
Lockhead Ferrante Johnno Felipe Elrich
Smeltz Coveny
Brown,Lia and Daniel definetly out.
Probably Rickie will field the same team that played so well against the Jets. Brown will be replaced by Johnno or even Aloisi if he's fit. Dodd will be back in defense for sure. Replacing Lia on the left will be more difficult....probably the best option is to move a natural lefty like Lockhead up in his place.
I would like to see O'dor in place of Old. My nerves could'nt take another 90 mins like the Jets game.
Moss
O'dor Dodd Rees
Lockhead Ferrante Johnno Felipe Elrich
Smeltz Coveny
this team would be perfect (except I'd have locky on the left and elrich on the right :P
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L&P, what kinda beer is that?
Dunno's team looks pretty good, I'll be picking another 3-2 win though as the back 3 looks a bit marginal.
Dunno's team looks pretty good, I'll be picking another 3-2 win though as the back 3 looks a bit marginal.
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depending who plays on Friday, we might have five players on the
park who are one card away from suspension (luckily Brown, Lia and
Daniel will be back in the frame for Melbourne)
currently on 3 yellows are - Lochhead, Aloisi, Johnno, Jeremy - "i'll say what i like, cos I'm not on the park ... oh sh*t" - Christie , and Ahmed -"'get those bastards back 10 metres ref" - Elrich
interesting times
currently on 3 yellows are - Lochhead, Aloisi, Johnno, Jeremy - "i'll say what i like, cos I'm not on the park ... oh sh*t" - Christie , and Ahmed -"'get those bastards back 10 metres ref" - Elrich
interesting times
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Hopefully Karl Dodd has recovered from his virus. Will be a very
welcome return.
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O'Dor is a worse player than Old in his present state imo - I think
that O'Dor has huge potential for the future though. Old
doesn't.
Lia and Brown aren't unreplacable losses imo. Lochy can push up into midfield like a few people have already said and Johnno is a more than able replacement for Brown.
Dodd would be a huge boost. He is our most able defender. Rees looks more comfortable with Dodd there because he knows he can push forward more and be covered. I just wish we had a right back because Dodd or Rees cannot and should not play wide.
valeo2008-01-02 02:16:45
Lia and Brown aren't unreplacable losses imo. Lochy can push up into midfield like a few people have already said and Johnno is a more than able replacement for Brown.
Dodd would be a huge boost. He is our most able defender. Rees looks more comfortable with Dodd there because he knows he can push forward more and be covered. I just wish we had a right back because Dodd or Rees cannot and should not play wide.
valeo2008-01-02 02:16:45
a.haak

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Sydney team news from Sydney morning Herald
http://www.smh.com.au/news/a-league/bridges-set-to-end-season-as-spectator/2008/01/02/1198949899526.html
Bridges not playing, Santalab and Biddle keep their spots, juninho on the bench (as already noted on here somewhere)
Bridges rumoured to be on his way back to Hull City
http://www.smh.com.au/news/a-league/bridges-set-to-end-season-as-spectator/2008/01/02/1198949899526.html
Bridges not playing, Santalab and Biddle keep their spots, juninho on the bench (as already noted on here somewhere)
Bridges rumoured to be on his way back to Hull City
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Milligan is out injured too.
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Lia and Brown aren't unreplacable losses imo. Lochy can push up into midfield like a few people have already said and Johnno is a more than able replacement for Brown.Dodd would be a huge boost. He is our most able defender. Rees looks more comfortable with Dodd there because he knows he can push forward more and be covered. I just wish we had a right back because Dodd or Rees cannot and should not play wide.
Absolutely agree with all of that.
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Why not give Christie a run at the back? Surely wouldnt be as uncertain as Old seems to be...?
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i've wondered about christie coming back in on the right, but since
the switch to 3 at the back he seems to have fallen out of
favour
if Lochy is in the back 3, then Rees is the choice on the right side for me
if lochy is wingback then it seems that Rees fills the right and Old is considered a better bet than Christie on the left
if Lochy is in the back 3, then Rees is the choice on the right side for me
if lochy is wingback then it seems that Rees fills the right and Old is considered a better bet than Christie on the left
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i couldnt care less as long as smeltz and felipe start and we get a
team on the pitch and belt the sh*t out of these arses
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I'd definitely keep Covs in the line up because he's really
impressed me playing as a holding man for Smeltz. When he's been
played earlier in the season he was just another striker who seemed
a little too slow for the league, but Ricky has used his height and
strength to knock the ball down and through for Smeltzy and Felipe.
He won't score many, but he's making sure Smeltzy is scoring lots.
My side for tomorrow night:
My side for tomorrow night:
GK: Moss (Who else....really!)
DC: Rees
DC: Dodd
DC: O'Dor (for the love of God, DROP OLD!)
DMC: Johnson (or Aloisi if fit)
ML: Lochead
MR: Elrich
MC: Felipe
MC: Ferrante (I've bagged him all season, and it seems he's
come good, lol)
FC: Covs
FC: Smeltzy
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I think you have to play Lochead in the backs even though Danial is
missing. I just don't see Old or O'Dor making the starting lineup
at the moment and I don't really trust Christie at the back either.
This probably means Christie will come in as a midfielder (probably
on the left) if they stick with a 3-5-2 but could come
in at right back if they revert to a 4-4-2.
I would prefer to keep the 3-5-2 formation, I think we have
played better with it. Looking at the players that are out at the
moment I can see the attraction of going back to a 4-4-2.
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I'd not be too surprised if we see Ricki revert to a 4-4-2 on
Friday night, rather than play people out of position.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10485165
another pre-match piece from the Herald (the nz one this time)
a few quotes from Ross and Ricki but no additional team news
re the match squad from the front page of our site
Wellington Phoenix squad: 1. Mark PASTON (gk), 2. Jeremy CHRISTIE, 3.
Tony LOCHHEAD, 5.Karl DODD, 7. Ross ALOISI, 8.Vaughan COVENY, 9. Shane
SMELTZ, 10.Michael FERRANTE, 12. Richard JOHNSON, 13. Steven OLD, 14.
Steven O'DOR, 16.Kristian REES, 17.Vince LIA, 18. Ahmad ELRICH, 19. Greg
DRAPER, 20.Glen MOSS (gk), 21.FELIPE, 23 Costa BARBAROUSES. *three to be
omitted
we can take Lia out and make that 2 to be omitted
another pre-match piece from the Herald (the nz one this time)
a few quotes from Ross and Ricki but no additional team news
re the match squad from the front page of our site
Wellington Phoenix squad: 1. Mark PASTON (gk), 2. Jeremy CHRISTIE, 3.
Tony LOCHHEAD, 5.Karl DODD, 7. Ross ALOISI, 8.Vaughan COVENY, 9. Shane
SMELTZ, 10.Michael FERRANTE, 12. Richard JOHNSON, 13. Steven OLD, 14.
Steven O'DOR, 16.Kristian REES, 17.Vince LIA, 18. Ahmad ELRICH, 19. Greg
DRAPER, 20.Glen MOSS (gk), 21.FELIPE, 23 Costa BARBAROUSES. *three to be
omitted
we can take Lia out and make that 2 to be omitted
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I'd not be too surprised if we see Ricki revert to a 4-4-2 on
Friday night, rather than play people out of position.
could be DLB, but i'm not sure how that would necessarily help solve the lack of a recognized left sided midfield player (presuming Lochy stays at the back)
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You would probably see Felipe play on the left if they did move to
a 4-4-2 and just tell Lochead to get forward a lot.
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I'd not be too surprised if we see Ricki revert to a 4-4-2 on
Friday night, rather than play people out of position.
could be DLB, but i'm not sure how that would necessarily help solve the lack of a recognized left sided midfield player (presuming Lochy stays at the back)
Understand, but not having a left sided
midfielder not only gives you challenges going forward but also
defensively, 4-4-2 would give the safety net (and
hopefully confidence) to anyone playing out of position on the
left. I'll probably get blasted for saying this but given the
lack of first choice midfield talent, I'd prefer us to shut up shop
at the back and play some old fashioned hoof ball to the big
fellas up front. On this occasion I'd prefer to
"win ugly".
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Why would you change a winning formation???
3- 5- 2 has been working for us. We have got 7 out of 9 points in the last 3 games using it!
Dont bet on Old being on the bench, Ricki rates him in the right back position, he has left him there even though we have all moaned about him.
3- 5- 2 has been working for us. We have got 7 out of 9 points in the last 3 games using it!
Dont bet on Old being on the bench, Ricki rates him in the right back position, he has left him there even though we have all moaned about him.
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Why would you change a winning formation???
3- 5- 2 has been working for us. We have got 7 out of 9 points in the last 3 games using it!
Dont bet on Old being on the bench, Ricki rates him in the right back position, he has left him there even though we have all moaned about him.
3- 5- 2 has been working for us. We have got 7 out of 9 points in the last 3 games using it!
Dont bet on Old being on the bench, Ricki rates him in the right back position, he has left him there even though we have all moaned about him.
How do we get a right back with 3 at the back?
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Something like this
Old Rees Dodd
and the midfield
Elrich Ferrante Johnno Felipe Lockhead
Thats my pick. Ricki seems to be conservative, and has changed winning sides as little as possible so farhepatitis2008-01-03 16:57:09
Old Rees Dodd
and the midfield
Elrich Ferrante Johnno Felipe Lockhead
Thats my pick. Ricki seems to be conservative, and has changed winning sides as little as possible so farhepatitis2008-01-03 16:57:09
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Something like this
Old Rees Dodd
and the midfield
Elrich Ferrante Johnno Felipe Lockhead
Thats my pick. Ricki seems to be conservative, and has changed winning sides as little as possible so far
Old Rees Dodd
and the midfield
Elrich Ferrante Johnno Felipe Lockhead
Thats my pick. Ricki seems to be conservative, and has changed winning sides as little as possible so far
Understand your point, I've always struggled with managers who
change winning teams. I think this is a bit different though,
we have not been able to start with a regular 11 for the last few
weeks due to injury, sickness and suspension. I'm talking
about tactical change to make the most of the players we have
available.
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we know what team he's playing, and its 3-5-2. It will be great to
see Lochy pushing forward again. All this talk about left and right
in a back three doesnt really make any difference. It is all about
defending and closing the wide men down, not playing the ball out
with a a particular foot and overlapping. They are merely
three stoppers.
Founder
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