Terry and his money (aka gone...or not..)

Daniel Hunt broke up with his wife? And then brought his kid Nix gear? And wanted to be rich one day? OMG WHAT A SHADY DRUG-DEALING MAFIA GOON.

Seriously - if a dude's ex-wife doesn't give a tabloid reporter all manner of juicy stories about drunkenness, cruelty, bestiality, etc, it proves he must be a pretty decent guy.

Translation: I am a Wellington Phoenix fan desperate to believe that the club isn't in deep trouble.

Don't think you have to be a Phoenix fan to wonder what relevance that particular section of the "story" has to anything.

The relevance is the affect this affair, not the paragraph, has had on Terry's and by extension, the Phoenix's overall credibility.

Simple question. What information from that article indicated that "the Nix are in deep trouble?"

What in the article had any relevance to the Nix's overall credibility? The article attempted to use innuendo to make Daniel Hunt seem dodgy, but I couldn't actually find any evidence to back that up. It just struck me as shocking tabloid journalism - Nippert had decided his story in advance and wasn't put off by the fact that he found ZERO EVIDENCE.Doloras2011-03-04 09:32:20

No.  Doesn't work that way.  I generally find your writing to be entertaining.  Can't say the same for the NBR's staff.

Terry has been suckered from here to Christmas.

His credibility was always risky, but in light of his poor judgement - what reputation there was as a businessman has essentially been wiped out.

This affects the Phoenix, even if he can bridge the funding needed by Monday elsewhere.

Not a lot. What you take away from it is that this Hunt fellow worked for a russian, some of the businesses he was given to run failed (happens to everyone), and one guy that he replaced has some bad blood with his ex-employer.  It then goes on about this Whitley guy for ages, making the Russian out as the bad guy without actually giving any details. Chances are this Whitley guy just didn't like it in Russia and after he left decided he wanted redundancy or something.

But you see, there's no way you can possibly know that yet.

'nile is not just a river in Egypt, Doloras. There is hope, and there is just delusion.

Ali Syed has paid off Racing Santander's debts. T/F?
You are not an international finance expert and are just going by what the NBR - a paper with a prior animus towards Terry - is saying and is being repeated by Australian rags. T/F?
You are prepared to bet me a pint of beer that the Nix will have been liquidated by the end of March. T/F?
Doloras2011-03-04 09:37:25

False- he has a "payment plan" in place on one set of debt - to the local state governement.

I am not saying that the Nix will be liquidated - if you'd paid attention, you'd know this - i am very much hoping that this will not be the case.

I am saying that WGA are charlatans, and that we are in the middle of a very serious state of affairs, and that the 100m loan will never be settled as WGA are orchestrating large scale advance fee fraud.

He has actually paid off 2 million Euros to start with. That would be more than half of Terry's total debt.

You see, I don't 100% trust this guy myself, but I frankly do not believe that Terry S has fallen for a Nigerian scam. It's possible, but I don't believe that this has happened. This is not denial, it is skepticism. If you are proved right I will happily admit so. If I am proved right... what will you do?

Email Terry to suggest which players he buys with the proceeds of the Libel litigation.

And you've just quantified why these sorts of things work- people WANT to believe what is being offered is true, and suspend good judgement- that's why they tend to work on the desperate.
zonknz2011-03-04 09:51:27

And if Terry has fallen for a Nigerian scam, I will be the loudest voice on here telling him to immediately sell the Nix and all his other companies and take a few years off fishing or whatever.

But seriously: you have offered no evidence that Terry S is so desperate and greedy that he would fall for a scam. You have offered no counterargument to the point that Terry has no doubt a posse of lawyers and accountants, one or more of whom would no doubt have read the wikifrauds.net website, done a basic googlesearch, heard about these alleged ripoffs in Australia, etc. You are arguing that not only Terry but the entire Century City financial management are falling for an obvious scam. And - most damningly - you have no evidence apart from what you read in the DomPost and the NBR, which sums up to "some Australian businessmen claim to have been ripped off".

All this is POSSIBLE. I consider it LESS THAN 50% LIKELY. If it is true, then not only Terry but the entire CC management team have been incredibly gullible and none of them should be let near a management role again. I prefer - at the moment - to believe that they know things that Matt Nippert and Dave Burgess don't know. And I will happily admit I'm wrong if proven so.Doloras2011-03-04 10:01:35

Not sure if relevant at all but just FYI.

Wait, who are "these"? Daniel Hunt, Adyl Khidirbekov, Kevin Whitley, or some combination of the three?

Sorry - "The Russian Connection" - Adyl Khidirbekov, Kevin Whitley I believe. I think it says Hunt replaced Whitley. They also invested money in a Club from Nelson during this time too, I think.

Ohhhhh.... is Kevin Whitley any relation to Phil Whitley?!? The plot chickens.

Yes. They look almost identical too.

gisborne were gettn 1-2000 a game at that time also to childers rd

No they weren't. More like 200.

i rmemeber an article in the hb today sayn that the chairman was stoked at gettn 1500 or somethn to an early round chatham cup match

Yeah that was a massively inflated number. You'd be surprised how many clubs do that with crowd figures - even at the top level. I know Childers road as well as anyone and that stand would be full at 1000, it was never even half full and the banks had less than 50 on the best days.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10116524

They said 1000 at the end of this article^ as well but they're just claiming that as if what they were doing was something wonderful - it never was.

Reminds me of the last NZFC game to be played at Porirua Park, they said 200 turned up but i counted less than 50 

I am the guys ex-wife and believe me, he is defintley NOT a nice guy. Anything the NBR reported on will be correct, which is why I kicked him out in the first place. He is the most dishonest man I have ever met in my life. So in future, please leave me out of your discussions. As for buying my son Nix gear, well Funny how he can afford that given he has never paid one cent towards child support in the last 2 years.

This sh*t just got real

You reckon?

Hi Anna. Thanks for clearing this up - I assume you told all this to Matt Nippert and he just chose not to print it (saving it for later? libel lawyers? who knows). Just curious, who told you about this thread?

The fight between Daniel and myself is a private one as there is a very precious child involved.The NBR article is about his financial downfall based on lies and inability to perform, not my personal life.