Tony P and Graham Seatter please read and comment
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It is with absolute horror that I read of the recent proposition of
FFA. The fact that they could leave the Phoenix out of the proposed
'youth league' is shocking. Are you (Tony Pignata and Graham
Seatter) going to try to work something out with FFA?
I know it's their competition, but this is just ridiculous.
Btw, if anybody knows who to complain to, please leave the email address here.
I know it's their competition, but this is just ridiculous.
Btw, if anybody knows who to complain to, please leave the email address here.
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Agreed. It is imperative we are a part of the youth league! Help!
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Ah ha....
Who foots the bill? If the Phoenix do, then what rights do they have to protect their investment if NZF doesn't want to. If NZF do, where do they get the money from.
But yes, we need to be involved somehow
Who foots the bill? If the Phoenix do, then what rights do they have to protect their investment if NZF doesn't want to. If NZF do, where do they get the money from.
But yes, we need to be involved somehow
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Someone mentioned that Terry Seripisos is worth $100 million. If
that's true then he can pay (I hope).
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i think its gonna harm the development of nz football and the
phoenix.It willl mean the phoenix will need to get more
international players
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It's not really suprising. It's like letting an Aussie rugby team
into the NPC. Maybe we could do something with NZFC?
valeo2007-10-30 18:31:14
a.haak
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We're lucky to be in the A League let alone being part of this new
youth league. The Nix are allowed in the A League because we
offer a market (TV, merchandise etc) whereas a NZ youth team will
provide no such thing.
I don't understand the comment of
clark007e , we can't have any more
international players than we already have - there are rules
limiting this.
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I dont think this is the way in terms of development for NZ
football. I think they should add a team into the NZFC like an
under 21 select side and that side could play against all the other
teams.
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Some of the guys in the other thread on this are looking at it more
as an unequal playing field for the Nix rather than an out and out
loss of a NZ youth development opportunity.
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I dont think this is the way in terms of development for NZ
football. I think they should add a team into the NZFC like an
under 21 select side and that side could play against all the other
teams.
I agree totally. Great idea.
Also, is there some rules stating that Phoenix squad player
cant play for team Welly? It would make sense for the 'Reserves' to
be playing week in,week out. I assume we cant do this as we
probably would be if we could.
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Having a youth team play in Australia wouldn't be financial viable
for us or the australian team, we'd be much better off having a
second tier team playing in the NZFC, although with the different
confederations this could be difficult.
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I dont think this is the way in terms of development for NZ
football. I think they should add a team into the NZFC like an
under 21 select side and that side could play against all the other
teams.
i am 100% against including youth teams in national
competitions. it destroys the integrity of the league in my
opinion. how do you build up parochial interest in a
semi-final between Team Wellington and the NZ football development
squad? I can't think of one example of any credible sports league
in the world that includes such a team. It would be a big step
backwards in terms of the league's credibility.
It will also weaken the league. If U21s are good enough,
there are already plenty of opportunites for them across the
league's franchises. Adding an additional squad of youngsters,
would either drain the talented youngsters out of the franchise
squads, or add an extra squad of players that are not yet up to the
standard of the league - or both.
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The other problem is that it's all well and good to add a youth
team to a professional league, but the NZFC sides are amateur and
struggle to be financially viable now. Add another two teams
and I just can't see how they could fund it.
As an example - Anyone know what has happened to the national youth league this year ? I have seen or heard nothing, if it's gone one season after moving it to the franchises that is a huge loss.
BigDunc, your issue is due to the international transfer requirements. FIFA state one international move in a Calendar year, plus stand down periods between professional and Amateur/Semi-Pro football. It's a total minefield.
As an example - Anyone know what has happened to the national youth league this year ? I have seen or heard nothing, if it's gone one season after moving it to the franchises that is a huge loss.
BigDunc, your issue is due to the international transfer requirements. FIFA state one international move in a Calendar year, plus stand down periods between professional and Amateur/Semi-Pro football. It's a total minefield.
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Think (and I stand to be corrected) that the NYL will still be
going but there are going to be changes to it. From what I've
heard, there's going to be a new Counties Manukau/Fed 2 type
franchise added. As I said, there may well be people on here better
informed about it than me and I might have got the wrong end of the
stick.
Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.
"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003
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The NYL will be 10 teams. 8 from each of the franchises, a
south/east Auckland side and composite age group NZ side. I think
it starts after Xmas
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The Youth league has not been agreed by A League club CEOs. If it
does go ahead NZ will not be part of it and thats understandable
due to the costs. We should not be disappointed with that. There
are options we are looking at which will allow WPX to field Youth
players so we are not disdavantaged. In regards to to a Youth
League in NZ that is a discussion I will be having with Graeme
soon.
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I dont think this is the way in terms of development for NZ
football. I think they should add a team into the NZFC like an
under 21 select side and that side could play against all the other
teams.
i am 100% against including youth teams in national
competitions. it destroys the integrity of the league in my
opinion. how do you build up parochial interest in a
semi-final between Team Wellington and the NZ football development
squad? I can't think of one example of any credible sports league
in the world that includes such a team. It would be a big step
backwards in terms of the league's credibility.
It will also weaken the league. If U21s are good enough,
there are already plenty of opportunites for them across the
league's franchises. Adding an additional squad of youngsters,
would either drain the talented youngsters out of the franchise
squads, or add an extra squad of players that are not yet up to the
standard of the league - or both.
Erm don't the Spanish play their B teams in the
Spanish national league such as the Segunda? Castilla CF being
the B team of Real Madrid for example? Can you elaborate why it
would destroy the integrity of the league having a youth team in
the national competitions? I personally think its not a bad
idea. I read somewhere that fielding youth teams in competative
matches was frowned upon by some clubs Ajax maybe?
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The Youth league has not been agreed by A League club CEOs. If it
does go ahead NZ will not be part of it and thats understandable
due to the costs. We should not be disappointed with that. There
are options we are looking at which will allow WPX to field Youth
players so we are not disdavantaged. In regards to to a Youth
League in NZ that is a discussion I will be having with Graeme
soon.
Didn't want anyone to miss Tony's post as my post came in
after it.
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Someone mentioned that Terry Seripisos is worth $100 million. If
that's true then he can pay (I hope).
we cant keep running to Terry when the sport needs money. granted, it would benifit the club, but it isnt fair to keep holding the hand out and asking for more.
I understand the Aussie logic in leaving us out of the youth league (if/when it happens) as it is their comp. we should be happy we have a club to support.
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