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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

An absolutely ridiculous farce if the game is not on. This really would be a slap in the face for Phoenix and football fans.NZ v Korea at Hockey?? FFS, you cannot tell me they'd get higher ratings for that.

It's international sport involving nz vs a Wellington game.

Try to see it outside of your obvious bias.

Allegedly

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

It's international sport involving nz vs a Wellington game.

Try to see it outside of your obvious bias.

Sky said they were playing all Phoenix games live - now they are not. It's not acceptable and I don't care if I am biased or not. I am pissed off.

You enjoy the international hockey since it's so important. I'm sure sports bars around the country will be packed out with avid hockey fans desperate to see their heroes in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

You do have a point if they said all Phoenix games will be live.

Other than that,it seems a fair enough.

Allegedly

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Garbage from sky

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Surely Sky can broadcast two different sport events on two different sport channels?

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Owesomexpert wrote:

Surely Sky can broadcast two different sport events on two different sport channels?

Sadly they are unable to broadcast 4 live events on 3 channels though...which is why they should pull their finger out for once and put the damn Phoenix game on the highlights channel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Are you sure Sky said that all nix games were live? I've never heard them say that, all I ever see is 'check guides for times'

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

I'm sure sports bars around the country will be packed out with avid hockey fans desperate to see their heroes in action.

Not sure this is relevant. Sports bars would not be packed out around the country to watch the Nix, not even if we were in the playoffs.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

I'm sure sports bars around the country will be packed out with avid hockey fans desperate to see their heroes in action.

Not sure this is relevant. Sports bars would not be packed out around the country to watch the Nix, not even if we were in the playoffs.

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though.

They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Justin tv Nelliek

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

by what stats is league bigger than football?

because player numbers must be in favour of football

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though.

They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sky sucks. I would email them complaining but I'm pretty sure they have blocked my email. I never get replies from them anymore

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Just clog their twitter feed.

If the Phoenix were classed as a New Zealand outfit (such as the Warriors), would we see them live?

And iSKY only works if you have multi-room, GHEY.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sky's flash app on skytv.co.nz still not showing any schedule changes allowing the nix to be live.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

tigers wrote:

by what stats is league bigger than football?

because player numbers must be in favour of football

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though.

They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

Player numbers are in favour of football over rugby too.

Player numbers are not the be all and end all.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

joshyboy007 wrote:

And iSKY only works if you have multi-room, GHEY.

True, but is the only reason the sprogs have a box downstairs; they think its so they can watch cartoon network, and nrl, bless 'em, but it's for dad to watch espn3 champions league at the office....

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

zonknz wrote:

Sky's flash app on skytv.co.nz still not showing any schedule changes allowing the nix to be live.

Don't expect any

Allegedly

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Don't bet on that. At the same time as that tweet Rod was getting an email that said Hockey wins, screw you all.

My bet is they're hoping the cricket will be over to get them out of a hole.

Hello Rod,

Thank you for your email.

The hockey is live on Sunday, we are screening the football delayed at 8.30pm. Please check either your epg (electronic programme guide) on the decoder or website for any late changes that we may have to make.

Hope you enjoy the tournament.

Please feel free to contact SKY Television Customer Services on 0800 759 759 for further information, alternatively please respond via return email and we will endeavour to reply within 24 hours.

With kind regards,

SKY Online Support Team

What fekin tournaments that then ?

You don't know what your doing ,you don't know what your doing !!

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

joshyboy007 wrote:

Just clog their twitter feed.

If the Phoenix were classed as a New Zealand outfit (such as the Warriors), would we see them live?

And iSKY only works if you have multi-room, GHEY.

As Buffy pointed out, the Breakers have often gone without coverage.

You know we belong together...

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Times like these you wish you'd made that dodgy satellite decoder didn't have the need for SkyTV.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sky always respond to my quries about the football with statements like 'sky sports shows a multitude of sports to appeal to everyone' they just forgot to add that the multitude of sports appears to be RUGBY, Highlightds of the RUGBY, classic RUGBY games from the 1930's and anytjing else to do with rugby. I will be cancelling my sky sports at the end of the football season and will renew it when the football returs

" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

paullt wrote:

Oh I don't know the Wales Vs Namibia replay was particularly exciting especially the second showing and as for the Georgia V Romania replay my adrenelin is still pumping ,cant wait for Maggies garden show later today on the Sky Heartland channel not sure if that's truly a sport though !!

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

by what stats is league bigger than football?

because player numbers must be in favour of football

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though.

They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

Player numbers are in favour of football over rugby too.

Player numbers are not the be all and end all.

Yip, we track interest in sport every quarter. Prior to Bahrain game interest in football (1+2 on a 5 point sclae) was in the 30% area, jumped to 60% end of '09 and has since fallen steadily to now 47% (Sept this year with next poll in Dec) total interest while rugby league in the past 3 years is averaging in the high 40% total interest and currently is 51%. In the short to medium term I think football and rugby league will be close on total interest. Interestingly Netball has higher total interest than both league and football, only once in the past 3 years have we had football garnering higher interest and that was during the WC

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bullion wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

by what stats is league bigger than football?

because player numbers must be in favour of football

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though.

They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

Player numbers are in favour of football over rugby too.

Player numbers are not the be all and end all.

And the figures for Hockey ?

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Kiwi Jambo wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

by what stats is league bigger than football? because player numbers must be in favour of football

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though. They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

Player numbers are in favour of football over rugby too. Player numbers are not the be all and end all.

And the figures for Hockey ?

don't have any data, it may have been asked as a once off but not part of our tracking data.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

As Buffy pointed out, the Breakers have often gone without coverage.

Difference between no coverage of the match at all because Aus Networks have no cameras there and game coveted but not shown.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

As Buffy pointed out, the Breakers have often gone without coverage.

Difference between no coverage of the match at all because Aus Networks have no cameras there and game coveted but not shown.

And plenty are coveting this game!!!

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bullion wrote:

Kiwi Jambo wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

by what stats is league bigger than football? because player numbers must be in favour of football

Buffon II wrote:

tigers wrote:

have they ever failed to show the Warriors live in the last 5 years ??

Probably not. League is bigger than Football here though. They have failed to show the Breakers live during the past 5 years, and they are the most successful of all 3 NZ teams in Aus comps.

Player numbers are in favour of football over rugby too. Player numbers are not the be all and end all.

And the figures for Hockey ?

don't have any data, it may have been asked as a once off but not part of our tracking data.

What are the odds the cricket will finish early? ;)

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The only defense I have is that sky would have paid quite a bit for the champions league hockey hence why its on and since its in New Zealand it gets preference since its probably cheaper for sky to ping out. If the nix game was in Wellington I bet it would be live.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Stefan got a reply from Sky.

@Stefanalletson it's a busy weekend for SKY Sport. Cricket in Brisbane may finish early if so we'll play Phoenix live on SS1. Thanks! ^JP

My reply to highlights channel coverage.

@clark007e The highlights channel is not setup for broadcasting live events. ^JPCboZ2011-11-30 13:03:48

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Would rather watch the game delayed if it means the Black Caps haven't been crushed by that average Australian test side.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Paulinho wrote:

Would rather watch the game delayed if it means the Black Caps haven't been crushed by that average Australian test side.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

SKY Sport NZ Hi Duane. It is a busy weekend for SKY Sport and we regret that we cannot show the Phoenix live. History shows that the test cricket played in Brisbane may finish early. If this eventuates, SKY Sport will broadcast the Phoenix live on SKY Sport 1. Thanks for your feedback.

w**kers

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wish we were Australian.

(sorry, I mean MORE Australian)

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

CboZ wrote:

If the nix game was in Wellington I bet it would be live.

Am I the only person who thinks this is all back-to-front?

If the game is in Wellington, the TV coverage SHOULD NOT be live. It should be delayed. Then the Phoenix would get bigger crowds.

In Australia, Cricket Australia and the AFL have broadcasting rights contracts that provide for coverage of (at least) marquee events (tests, and the Grand Final, for example) to be blacked out to the local market unless the ground is a sell out.

It has always struck me that the failure of NZ Sports organisations and/or stadium companies to insist on this as a condition of letting TV cameras into their games/venues is very poor management. Sky TV have previously said they are not set up to black out coverage to local markets. I say that is ONLY because such terms are not insisted on by NZ Cricket, NZ Rugby, NZ Football etc. and/or by stadia. If the sports and/or the stadia did insist on that being a term of their contract Sky would implement technology to allow them to black out local live coverage REALLY quickly. However as long as the sports and the stadia do not insist on it, Sky will never implement such technology.

I do not understand why the Wellington Lions and Hurricanes play in front of such small crowds, while Sky insists it is a crucial part of THEIR business model to provide live coverage of rugby games into bars in the Friday evening at 7.30pm slot. To me, that says that NZ Rugby is saying "Okay, we concede, we will erode our gate takings, merchandising and stadium hospitality takings so that Sky can make more money selling and promoting live coverage to bars. We are happy for patrons not to come to our games and instead go to bars and spend their money there instead of at our stadiums.". I use rugby here as an example, because in the New Zealand market everyone (I think) can agree, whether they are fans of rugby or not, that the rugby market is pretty undeniably significant. The logic however applies to all sports.

And the stadiums are similarly negligent in not insisting that rugby (and other sports) require local blackouts of live coverage until there is a sell out.

I think professional sports administrators in New Zealand are naive and incompetent for allowing this situation ( a ) to develop, and ( b ) to persist. Sky clearly have a vested interest in steering customers away from the grounds (where the profits accrue to the sport and the stadium) and into the bars who sky charge for the service of live TV coverage. Sky want more people watching on TV... that's their business. The sports want more people watching at the grounds. That's their business.

In the American sports market the organisations are focused on their commercial operations... driving crowds to their games, selling punters merchandise, marketing their web sites, and pay per view live streams and actively protect the rights to their broadcast feeds etc. Here the sports just give it away.

It's stupid.

bwtcf2011-11-30 13:26:43

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bwtcf wrote:

If the game is in Wellington, the TV coverage SHOULD NOT be live. It shouldï¿½be delayed. Then the Phoenix would get bigger crowds.

Only in Wellington should it be delayed, not the rest of the country.

Three for me, and two for them.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Buffon II wrote:

bwtcf wrote:

If the game is in Wellington, the TV coverage SHOULD NOT be live. It should be delayed. Then the Phoenix would get bigger crowds.

Only in Wellington should it be delayed, not the rest of the country.

Exactly.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah lets go back to the old days of TVNZ blackouts in the local area. Same as Channel 9 in OZ.

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