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Vs Rooooaaaar - Match Thread

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theprof wrote:
Took one for the team???? what a crock of sh*te! He took two for himself cos he didn't think he was good enough to tackle the man. Both times he hit the player as the ball had gone past him! the first time he had no choice he was pretty much on his own,dodd had left him stranded, second time locky was pretty much about to make the tackle when dura took the man out. If that's his last resort as a centre back he shouldn't be there! Get the fuc*in ball you muppet! I'm sorry but he cost us the draw by conceeding two very well placed free kicks - the capt does not need to do that!
Is that 'Prof' tag self proclaimed because you know f**k all about football.
If Durante had let the man go past him (as you said the ball had gone past him so had no chance to play the ball only the man) then you are looking at a 1 v 1 against Moss with a goal more than likely to come in that instance vs a defended freekick 18 out. I'd rather defend the freekick 18 out on odds everytime thanks.
Agent 472008-12-29 15:14:18
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Too depressed after that game to try and analyse it much. I felt like QLD were going to win the entire game - even when we were 1-0 up and then 2-1 up for a short period. We stacked our midfield and then backed off and invited them to shoot. Brown, McKain and Ferrante were all pretty poor against a midfield missing Miller and Tiato. We came out slightly better in the 2nd half and Leo actually got some ball in the final third - was also impressed with some of Hearfield's play. I thought that Lochy and Muscat were absolutely superb defensively for the first 80 mins or so - it is not easy to keep the likes of Zullo and Minniecon in check - unfortunately Lochy's silly error and Muscat's fatigue undid all the good work.

Playing defensively away to a team we haven't beaten is understandable - especially when we luckily went 1-0 up - but I do think sitting that deep just invited them on and the end result was all but inevitable.
valeo2008-12-29 16:26:02

a.haak

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scribbler wrote:
paullt wrote:
im with you mate..we sign attacking players and all we ever do is play defensive..if in doubt ricky takes an attacking player(whos been playing defensive) to bring on a defender, and before� everyone says ricky is a great manager ..he's not. he's too defensive. nearly every away game we have 11 players on the pitch and the majority of them either play defensive or are defenders masquerading as midfielders...tim brown...christie...mckain...ferrante... we have no=one with any midfield flair or any ideas when they get the ball. and when did any team ever win anything with a lone striker up front?...simple� NEVER

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I reckon most people�on this site�will�say�'Amen' to that.

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And that lone striker the Nix�expect to be Superman without the tights will�be gone next season.�Depressing, eh!


Chelsea
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Great to lead twice, tried to punch above weight against a superior outfit. I love the Nix and will be there til the end but this year - Not top 4 material. Nice try boys. It doesn't get any easier from here.
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Agent 47 wrote:
theprof wrote:
Took one for the team???? what a crock of sh*te! He took two for himself cos he didn't think he was good enough to tackle the man. Both times he hit the player as the ball had gone past him! the first time he had no choice he was pretty much on his own,dodd had left him stranded, second time locky was pretty much about to make the tackle when dura took the man out. If that's his last resort as a centre back he shouldn't be there! Get the fuc*in ball you muppet! I'm sorry but he cost us the draw by conceeding two very well placed free kicks - the capt does not need to do that!

Is that 'Prof' tag self proclaimed because you know f**k all about football.

If Durante had let the man go past him (as you said the ball had gone past him so had no chance to play the ball only the man) then you are looking at a 1 v 1 against�Moss with a goal more than likely to come in that instance vs a defended freekick 18 out. I'd rather defend�the freekick 18 out on odds everytime thanks.


The second foul was unnecessary, there was cover. He was exposed on the first one. In both cases, he showed very poor technique when faced with a ball-runner, and that's very disappointing for me.
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Forget all the analysis, I've said all along we are not top four material yet.  We were well beaten by a good but not unbeatable outfit who are clearly our bogey team.  Forget all the play off hype as well cos our season is over.  If we beat Newcastle it will only make things worse because expectations will be up but there's no chance we'll take points off Adelaide and Melbourne at the business end of the season.  Hope the team can prove me wrong - but I doubt it.  And for the record, I would not be at all surprised if Newcastle kick our sorry arses next week without Durante and Mckain.  Instead of going for it, Ricki will just pack the team with defensive plodders rather than trying to cause them problems.  You can just see how it's going to pan out....
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man what a bunch of whineys on this forum. We won 4 and drew 2 out of the last 6. One loss was bound to occurr sooner or later.  We couldn't even dream of being so high up on the ladder last year.
We lost vs Roar - away from home - and with a stunner scored in the last minute of the game: sh*t happens. We might not be the best team to watch but we are STILL there, fifth and in such a tight league you never know, we might even make the play off.

[Sorry, not having a go at anyone in particular. I'm just disappointed that now, having lost our first game in 7, people complain as if we were sodding last and haven't won a game in 100 years].

I'm as disappointed as you are, and I've never hidden my disappointment, but hey there are ways and ways. Where does this negativity comes from?? We're still in there.

Plus, half the people who are so bitter don't even turn up to games so get behind your team and keep your criticism to yourself, for once: it's all part of being a football fans.

Maybe Santa should've brought you "Fever Pitch".



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2 positives from the game - The Fever numbers attending the game - Impressive to say the least.
 
And 2ndly, the fact not only did they outsing the locals for the entire game but they sang the entire game. The roar fans finally made a noise after the final whistle.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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newzealandpower wrote:
man what a bunch of whineys on this forum. We won 4 and drew 2 out of the last 6. One loss was bound to occurr sooner or later.  We couldn't even dream of being so high up on the ladder last year.
We lost vs Roar - away from home - and with a stunner scored in the last minute of the game: sh*t happens. We might not be the best team to watch but we are STILL there, fifth and in such a tight league you never know, we might even make the play off.

[Sorry, not having a go at anyone in particular. I'm just disappointed that now, having lost our first game in 7, people complain as if we were sodding last and haven't won a game in 100 years].

I'm as disappointed as you are, and I've never hidden my disappointment, but hey there are ways and ways. Where does this negativity comes from?? We're still in there.

Plus, half the people who are so bitter don't even turn up to games so get behind your team and keep your criticism to yourself, for once: it's all part of being a football fans.

Maybe Santa should've brought you "Fever Pitch".




People are always irrational after losing like that. It hurts. It's understandable. Before the game I didn't think we'd get anything out of it anyway tbh. I simply don't think we are playing well enough at the moment to seriously challenge the top 4.
valeo2008-12-29 19:34:31

a.haak

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newzealandpower wrote:
man what a bunch of whineys on this forum. We won 4 and drew 2 out of the last 6. One loss was bound to occurr sooner or later.  We couldn't even dream of being so high up on the ladder last year.
We lost vs Roar - away from home - and with a stunner scored in the last minute of the game: sh*t happens. We might not be the best team to watch but we are STILL there, fifth and in such a tight league you never know, we might even make the play off.

[Sorry, not having a go at anyone in particular. I'm just disappointed that now, having lost our first game in 7, people complain as if we were sodding last and haven't won a game in 100 years].

I'm as disappointed as you are, and I've never hidden my disappointment, but hey there are ways and ways. Where does this negativity comes from?? We're still in there.

Plus, half the people who are so bitter don't even turn up to games so get behind your team and keep your criticism to yourself, for once: it's all part of being a football fans.

Maybe Santa should've brought you "Fever Pitch".





I tried to block out the 6-1 loss to Adelaide as well, but alas it was still a reality and only 3 weeks ago
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ballane wrote:
So what its all his fault,come on its way past time some of the others copped it as well.Think im right when i say if lockhead hadnt given the ball away so easily then durante wouldnt have been placed in that position.

Just maybe if we had a few more shots we might actually score some more goals which in turn would mean we just might win a few more.Far to easy to just its his fault because he gave  away a couple of free kicks.
 
Don't agree with this Lochead bashing...he won header after header after header on the back post, when they delivered the ball there. And at the end of the game the midfield and front line, including newly introduced players are expecting him to play the ball around at the back and kill the game.
 
They should have used the ball positively or held possession in the opposition half. Muscat MOM on reflection- not much you can do about a sub like Oar, and Lochead in second place I think...


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I was over-optimistic all week. For some stupid reason I imagined Ricki would avoid the negative tactics of the CCM game (when we constantly gave away possession and survived on luck and last ditch tackles) and try for a more positive counterattacking style using Daniel and Bertos in tandem. I truly felt we could knock over Roar if we dared to be a bit more adventurous.
 
Wrong. I've finally given up on seeing Daniel play any significant role this season. When I think of his superb skills last season and all the goals he laid on and scored himself I just think he is a wasted resource. I can't argue with a coach who has all Ricki's accumulated experience but I sometimes - no, actually often - wish he wouldn't stick to these conservative, by-the-numbers tactics.
 
Where did that saying come from, "Who dares, wins"?
 
 
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Damn, but it was an exciting game to watch! tense
 
Pity that little of that was provided by our front 3 or 5...We have been overly defensive this season and it shows in our goal tallies. 2-0 our best and that against 9 men.
 
 


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StopOut wrote:
Where did that saying come from, "Who dares, wins"?

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Audere est facere.

Emblazoned on the Spurs shield. Nuff said.
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el grapadura wrote:
StopOut wrote:
Where did that saying come from, "Who dares, wins"?

 

 


Audere est facere.

Emblazoned on the Spurs shield. Nuff said.
 
Bah, it's all Greek to me. Wouldn't mind Harry as coach though....
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martinb wrote:
ballane wrote:
So what its all his fault,come on its way past time some of the others copped it as well.Think im right when i say if lockhead hadnt given the ball away so easily then durante wouldnt have been placed in that position.

Just maybe if we had a few more shots we might actually score some more goals which in turn would mean we just might win a few more.Far to easy to just its his fault because he gave  away a couple of free kicks.
 
Don't agree with this Lochead bashing...he won header after header after header on the back post, when they delivered the ball there. And at the end of the game the midfield and front line, including newly introduced players are expecting him to play the ball around at the back and kill the game.
 
They should have used the ball positively or held possession in the opposition half. Muscat MOM on reflection- not much you can do about a sub like Oar, and Lochead in second place I think...
Lockhead bashing i think not just stating the obvious,yep he won some headers but i also seem to recall some pretty rough distribution as well.He was no worse than some of the others just dont go with the bashing that durrante has been getting.Our problems are more than just blaming a player here and there.

As has been the case for most of the season  unless we start taking some bloody shots on goal  and creating genuine chances rather than the odd one or two here and there we are kidding ourselves about top 4 contenders.Not bashing just the cold hard facts.

We were bloody lucky the roar couldnt put away a few more of their chances otherwise it could well have been another blowout and that isnt kidding.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Jose's Dog wrote:
Forget all the analysis, I've said all along we are not top four material yet.  We were well beaten by a good but not unbeatable outfit who are clearly our bogey team.  Forget all the play off hype as well cos our season is over.  If we beat Newcastle it will only make things worse because expectations will be up but there's no chance we'll take points off Adelaide and Melbourne at the business end of the season.  Hope the team can prove me wrong - but I doubt it.  And for the record, I would not be at all surprised if Newcastle kick our sorry arses next week without Durante and Mckain.  Instead of going for it, Ricki will just pack the team with defensive plodders rather than trying to cause them problems.  You can just see how it's going to pan out....
 
beating newcastle won't make my sunday evening worse
 
 
"no chance" ..?  there is always a chance - otherwise why bother turning up? (as a player, or as a fan)
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I remember after the disasterous start to the season that people were saying all they wanted from the team was that they give their all and guts it out til the end of each game. Well I think we have  that.

 I am proud of this team. Over the last seven or so weeks they have guts it out. Time after time they have been under the pump. Think of the CCM game and Melbourne and now the Roar. We have come up against better teams and scrapped and battled and got results. If Oars deflected shot had sailed over the bar we would have got a point out of this game.
 
We are a limited team playing to the extent of our collective ability...we are getting by coz of our never say die attitude. As a supporter you can't ask more than that. We may or maynot make the playoffs this year but I am still happy the way they have turned the season around. We hopefully will finish mid table.....which is a big improvement on last year.
 
If they recruit wisely then next season we will be serious title contenders. A couple of seriously good strikers and a midfield playmaker to go with our resolute defense will see us there. Don't be too hard on the lads...you can't accuse them of not trying.
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zinidane wrote:
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We are a limited team playing to the extent of our collective ability...we are getting by coz of our never say die attitude. As a supporter you can't ask more than that. We may or maynot make the playoffs this year but I am still happy the way they have turned the season around. We hopefully will finish mid table.....which is a big improvement on last year.
 





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It was closer than it should have been imho...and teams that play 4=5=1 shouldnt think about top 4 playoffs..oh to be able to play 3 up like the roar.

A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen

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dairyflat wrote:

zinidane wrote:
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We are a limited team playing to the extent of our collective ability...we are getting by coz of our never say die attitude. As a supporter you can't ask more than that. We may or maynot make the playoffs this year but I am still happy the way they have turned the season around. We hopefully will finish mid table.....which is a big improvement on last year.

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+1.

Very well said indeed.
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ballane wrote:
martinb wrote:
ballane wrote:
So what its all his fault,come on its way past time some of the others copped it as well.Think im right when i say if lockhead hadnt given the ball away so easily then durante wouldnt have been placed in that position.

Just maybe if we had a few more shots we might actually score some more goals which in turn would mean we just might win a few more.Far to easy to just its his fault because he gave  away a couple of free kicks.
 
Don't agree with this Lochead bashing...he won header after header after header on the back post, when they delivered the ball there. And at the end of the game the midfield and front line, including newly introduced players are expecting him to play the ball around at the back and kill the game.
 
They should have used the ball positively or held possession in the opposition half. Muscat MOM on reflection- not much you can do about a sub like Oar, and Lochead in second place I think...
Lockhead bashing i think not just stating the obvious,yep he won some headers but i also seem to recall some pretty rough distribution as well.He was no worse than some of the others just dont go with the bashing that durrante has been getting.Our problems are more than just blaming a player here and there.

As has been the case for most of the season  unless we start taking some bloody shots on goal  and creating genuine chances rather than the odd one or two here and there we are kidding ourselves about top 4 contenders.Not bashing just the cold hard facts.

We were bloody lucky the roar couldnt put away a few more of their chances otherwise it could well have been another blowout and that isnt kidding.


Durrante was badly caught out on the back foot and fouled badly 3 times, once on Van Dyke he got away with. bad technique.

As agent47 said during the game Brown should have dropped back to help McKain deeper, because he was MIA a fair amount in front of the back 4. Fair call, but Dura still had three bad plays and they cost us.

on the Lochead side, not just yourself. sorry to single out, but everyone saying Lochy giving the ball away blah blah. We got a goal from not marking up on the back post. They didn't beacuse Lochy was there everytime. They got two goals from fouls at the edge of the box.  and one from being caught napping on a counter.

the pressure was on the defense because the attack didn't create pressure leading to scoring chances at the other end, and the midfield was stretched. Is Suncoorp a larger ground than some others?


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dairyflat wrote:

zinidane wrote:
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We are a limited team playing to the extent of our collective ability...we are getting by coz of our never say die attitude. As a supporter you can't ask more than that. We may or maynot make the playoffs this year but I am still happy the way they have turned the season around. We hopefully will finish mid table.....which is a big improvement on last year.

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Disappointing result, here's my post-match analysis:

http://theythinkitsallover.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/queensland-roar-3-2-wellington-phoenix-post-match-analysis/

Let me know if you agree/disagree.

I think we can still make the plaoffs though, but Durante and McKain will be a big loss.

Is Sigmund fit?
EvertonFC2008-12-29 23:22:44
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I also don't go in for singling players out for the result. Sure mistakes and errors of judgement happen, and sometimes they cost us goals. However, for the most part the games are won and lost by the team.

As someone else has already posted, the biggest problem this year has been the lack of attacking intent, and the lack of ability to create chances in the current squad/tactical framework.

While it's going to be disappointing to miss the playoffs, remember this is a Wellington team you're supporting, and narrowly misses are par for the course here.

5th place is an improvement on last season, and probably much better than we expected after round 5. Hopefully we can do enough to at least stay there in the next 4 matches.

Having said that, the improvement must continue next season.


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We're still in the race for the semis. If CCM loses next round and we beat the Jets at home then we're back on level points with 4th place. I know we have a sh*t goal diff but with three rounds after that to go you never know.
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i was at the game, and it was great to see the nix battling, but it was a shame for them to battle, they need/should be/ are a smarter team than that. ref had a played a big part in the game, with many calls going for the roar and not us, but at the same time, the way we were defending ment that that was always going to happen. as gutted i am about the loss, it still sh*t loads better than we did against A.U.

and as a nix supporter this loss has galvinsed me to the team, and with a tight run in to the end of the season, i cant wait to see them play again and get behind them. bring it on

I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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Lonegunmen wrote:
2 positives from the game - The Fever numbers attending the game - Impressive to say the least.
 
And 2ndly, the fact not only did they outsing the locals for the entire game but they sang the entire game. The roar fans finally made a noise after the final whistle.



Good post lonegunmen and Feverish have you got your half time exploits on youtube yet?

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wolfman wrote:
dairyflat wrote:

zinidane wrote:
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We are a limited team playing to the extent of our collective ability...we are getting by coz of our never say die attitude. As a supporter you can't ask more than that. We may or maynot make the playoffs this year but I am still happy the way they have turned the season around. We hopefully will finish mid table.....which is a big improvement on last year.

 



+1
 
This boy has got it. Gutting result really, but like he says, as long as they are really trying, then we can be proud. Disappointing though, after defending well enough to earn a point
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martinb wrote:

As agent47 said during the game Brown should have dropped back to help McKain deeper, because he was MIA a fair amount in front of the back 4. Fair call, but Dura still had three bad plays and they cost us.



Deeper? If they played any deeper they'd all have to get into Moss's shirt. Shape, shape, shape!! They played so deep at times that the midfield turned in to defence and all we did was sit back and let Queensland run at us. If they had held some shape we may have been able to play through the park. Smeltz must have felt lonely at times. Reading most of the posts on here after a loss is more entertaining than tv
Royal2008-12-30 18:46:48
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Let's all be honest, their 3rd goal despite taking a deflection was worthy of a goal. As much as it hurts, it was quality.
 
Now all we can do is look forward to the ROF on Sunday and enjoy our penultimate game at home - unless we make the finals which we all hope/wish/desire/pray for.
 
Cheers fourtean times. I'm rapt we have goven a better account of ourselves this season. last year we played all out attack, this year has been a bit more defensive, next season a happy medium of them both!!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

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What's with all the PC crap about fans not being fans if they single out a player? If a play plays crap, then he plays crap. If a play plays crap 8 weeks on the trott or like  Lochhead has, consistently all season, then the question needs to be asked, why is he still starting? Very poor crosses, being caught out of position and giving away possession time after time.
 
As a die hard 'nix fan, I'm getting frustrated by the obvious fact Ricki has favourites within the squad. Lochhead should have been dropped weeks ago to give the lad a rest, a refresh and a chance to come back with vengence. I believe the other defenders work a lot harder, and sure make mistakes too, but not with the consistency Lochhead has this season. If Ricki can sit on the bench and happily watch Lochhead waste possession or fluff cross after cross, then jog back into defense without a care in the world - then there's something wrong in Ricki's player performance evaluations. A couple of decent headers in a game (that any left back should be making anyway) doesn't balance up with 3 poor crosses and half a dozen stray passes. THe guy then made the mistake that made them all look bad and put Durante in the position he did.
 
I'd have liked to see Durante at Left back with Sigmund and Dodd in the middle, and Manny on the right. It's probably too late in the day now with the suspensions and injuries. 
 
More shots required x 10!
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robman75 wrote:
I'd have liked to see Durante at Left back with Sigmund and Dodd in the middle, and Manny on the right. It's probably too late in the day now with the suspensions and injuries.


Didn't Durante play as a right back for Newcastle? I would've thought given the fact we're not lacking good centrebacks that he would've been given a try in that position. As you say, too late now.
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robman75 wrote:
What's with all the PC crap about fans not being fans if they single out a player? If a play plays crap, then he plays crap. If a play plays crap 8 weeks on the trott or like �Lochhead has, consistently�all season, then the question needs to be asked, why is he still starting? Very poor crosses, being caught out of position and giving away possession time after time.
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As a die hard 'nix fan, I'm getting frustrated by the obvious fact Ricki has favourites within the squad. Lochhead should have been dropped weeks ago to give the lad a rest, a refresh and a chance to come back with vengence. I believe the other defenders work a lot harder, and sure make mistakes too, but not with the consistency Lochhead has this season.�If Ricki can sit on the bench and happily watch Lochhead waste�possession�or fluff cross after cross, then�jog back into defense�without a care in the world - then there's something wrong in Ricki's player performance evaluations. A couple of decent headers in a game (that any left back should be making anyway) doesn't balance up with 3 poor crosses and half a dozen stray passes. THe guy then made the mistake that made them all look bad and put Durante in the position he did.

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I'd have liked to see Durante at Left back with Sigmund and Dodd in the middle, and Manny on the right. It's probably too late in the day now with the suspensions and injuries.�

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More shots required x 10!


What a complete load of bollocks.
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yes.. Dura was origionally a right back
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Still worth the try I would've thought. Having played left back myself, I've made the switch to right several times without too much difficulty. Anyway, there's not too much broken at the back except for Lochhead's lack of form which he'll hopefully be over before next season!

 
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el grapadura wrote:
Agent 47 wrote:
theprof wrote:
Took one for the team???? what a crock of sh*te! He took two for himself cos he didn't think he was good enough to tackle the man. Both times he hit the player as the ball had gone past him! the first time he had no choice he was pretty much on his own,dodd had left him stranded, second time locky was pretty much about to make the tackle when dura took the man out. If that's his last resort as a centre back he shouldn't be there! Get the fuc*in ball you muppet! I'm sorry but he cost us the draw by conceeding two very well placed free kicks - the capt does not need to do that!

Is that 'Prof' tag self proclaimed because you know f**k all about football.

If Durante had let the man go past him (as you said the ball had gone past him so had no chance to play the ball only the man) then you are looking at a 1 v 1 against Moss with a goal more than likely to come in that instance vs a defended freekick 18 out. I'd rather defend the freekick 18 out on odds everytime thanks.


The second foul was unnecessary, there was cover. He was exposed on the first one. In both cases, he showed very poor technique when faced with a ball-runner, and that's very disappointing for me.
 
What complete crap. Lochhead was not in a position to cover the second one, and in terms of lacking technique, utter rubbish. You don't become a pro footballer with no technique! Split second decisions forced on the same guy when they shouldn't have been. Simple footy fundamentals pal.
 
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el grapadura wrote:
robman75 wrote:
What's with all the PC crap about fans not being fans if they single out a player? If a play plays crap, then he plays crap. If a play plays crap 8 weeks on the trott or like  Lochhead has, consistently all season, then the question needs to be asked, why is he still starting? Very poor crosses, being caught out of position and giving away possession time after time.
 

As a die hard 'nix fan, I'm getting frustrated by the obvious fact Ricki has favourites within the squad. Lochhead should have been dropped weeks ago to give the lad a rest, a refresh and a chance to come back with vengence. I believe the other defenders work a lot harder, and sure make mistakes too, but not with the consistency Lochhead has this season. If Ricki can sit on the bench and happily watch Lochhead waste possession or fluff cross after cross, then jog back into defense without a care in the world - then there's something wrong in Ricki's player performance evaluations. A couple of decent headers in a game (that any left back should be making anyway) doesn't balance up with 3 poor crosses and half a dozen stray passes. THe guy then made the mistake that made them all look bad and put Durante in the position he did.

 

I'd have liked to see Durante at Left back with Sigmund and Dodd in the middle, and Manny on the right. It's probably too late in the day now with the suspensions and injuries. 

 

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What a complete load of bollocks.
 
Oh yeah - top-value in that comment. So you reckon Lochhead is top of his game then...?!
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
robman75 wrote:
�Lochhead was not in a position to cover the second one, and in terms of lacking technique, utter rubbish. You don't become a pro footballer with no technique! Split second decisions forced on the same guy when they shouldn't have been. Simple footy fundamentals pal.

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Lochead was there in cover, don't know what game you were watching. As for Durante's supposed technique - standing square on and flat-footed in front of a ball-runner coming at you at pace is asking for trouble.

And that's exactly what we got.

Simple footy fundamentals pal.
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about 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
robman75 wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
robman75 wrote:
What's with all the PC crap about fans not being fans if they single out a player? If a play plays crap, then he plays crap. If a play plays crap 8 weeks on the trott or like �Lochhead has, consistently�all season, then the question needs to be asked, why is he still starting? Very poor crosses, being caught out of position and giving away possession time after time.
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As a die hard 'nix fan, I'm getting frustrated by the obvious fact Ricki has favourites within the squad. Lochhead should have been dropped weeks ago to give the lad a rest, a refresh and a chance to come back with vengence. I believe the other defenders work a lot harder, and sure make mistakes too, but not with the consistency Lochhead has this season.�If Ricki can sit on the bench and happily watch Lochhead waste�possession�or fluff cross after cross, then�jog back into defense�without a care in the world - then there's something wrong in Ricki's player performance evaluations. A couple of decent headers in a game (that any left back should be making anyway) doesn't balance up with 3 poor crosses and half a dozen stray passes. THe guy then made the mistake that made them all look bad and put Durante in the position he did.

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I'd have liked to see Durante at Left back with Sigmund and Dodd in the middle, and Manny on the right. It's probably too late in the day now with the suspensions and injuries.�

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What a complete load of bollocks.

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Oh yeah -�top-value in that comment. So you reckon Lochhead is top of his game then...?!


Until you start making sense, that's the kind of response you get.
Lochead is the best lef back we have, and he deserves the place in the team. His standard this season hasn't been as good as last (particularly in regard to going forward and crossing), but overall has been solid.
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