What's with the 'Alternative Fever'

I thought it was quite good having enthusiastic people outside of the 'official' zone.

f**k I swear you guys will whine about anything.

Have you tried using ticketek's ezyTicket where you print out the tickets yourself, this way you can get tickets in the yellowfever zone last mintue

as someone said above, the more singing n chanting the better, wherever, whenever

Yep the zone is spreading thats gotta be a good thing

Lonegunmen2007-11-18 22:59:27

It was good to see rival fans at the game.  If they came all the way from Sydney then they should be congratulated for the effort. 

We should be trying to make the experience as much fun as possible for the fans of opposing teams.  The Phoenix are at a huge disadvantage when trying to attract numbers to the game because we don't get any of the hardcore opposition supporters who would usually be able to go to most of their away games.  If we can make the trip a legendary experience then more opposition fans might decide to come over.

This might not make much of a difference, but we should make an effort anyway.

The Sydney fans in the BB after the game seemed to be having a good time.

We've had glowing reviews on the Sydney forum.  Most of them saying they will be back here next season and telling others to make the trip.

Fact.
Arsenal2007-11-19 11:56:55

It would have seemed a good result if you were a Sydney fan, snatching a draw in injury time.

The Sydney fans at the BB were nice enough... I had a laugh with one of them, he seemed appalled when I told him I'm originally from Nowra, causing him to exclaim "What are you doing supporting Wellington then?!?" 

Always happy to see rival fans make the trip, especially here since it's an international one. Good on them, hope to catch up with them next time, and maybe repay the favour.

those Ninja Turtles were class.

Next years brand slogan...

Explain.

Auckland Jag2007-11-19 14:41:01

Unlikely we could, or would, use the official team logo...

Yeah, fair point about the copyright thing. It was just something I was playing with when that phrase came up, never really a serious suggestion. Got a few ideas tho'.......

I have to agree with the fact that security was not the greatest.  I have a season pass to the top row of Aisle 24.  My mates and I got these tickets so we could be involved with the crowd aswell as listen (and join in ) to the Yellow fever.  The guys that came up to the top of 24 on saturday had been seen at the front of the FZ.  They fisrtly tried to get in down the bottom of 24 but were removed and ended up at the top in front of us. 

 Ok, it was a good atmosphere, but you do not go off at the same supporters that are doing the upmost for the crowd and the Nix just because you haven't got seats in the FZ.  Aren't we all here to support ONE Team and ONE team only?

Absolutely.

The truth is that while the acoustics travel nicely to the pitch they don't move up a stand well.  Those in the Feverzone never heard anything from 24 saying they were quiet because (and you can check the TV coverage) they were making plenty of noise.  Most games the front of 22 gets bowled over by the back of 22, because the back hads no idea what is being started at the front.

It strikes me that there is a perception that somehow those in the zone were responsible for the security.  I'm pretty sure the way I read it is that the security was the clubs decision and the fault of the dickhead who threw a bottle last time.

One club. one voice.

Interesting though how the security that was in place and had a lot to do with removal of the group that came up to us after denying access to the FZ, where if fact the same that removed some of the group up by us for throwing bottles.

I have younger kids and sit in aisle 22 and the Fever zone was definitely quieter against Sydney. Hopefully you guys are in full voice V. Adelaide !  It just wasn't quite the same atmosphere  without you guys full throttle. It was, however,the loudest "Who are ya" on record when Tony Popoffthepitch was ejected. Magic !

Singing and chanting outside of the YF zone is totally sweet. Going around aisle 23/24 and saying "For the politically correct, sit down" (to the tune of, for the phoenix, stand up), is not. These people are all there to support the Phoenix as well. It's OK to try and encourage the 'prawn zone' to get more involved, but insulting them and throwing beer around is not the best way to go about it (I definitely saw a couple bottles sailing into the stands during and after the game). I loved the costumes and chants like Yellow Army, but leave the other stuff at home next time.

Another bit of advice; you guys kept trying to start the "For the Phoenix, Stand up" chant every 5 minutes. It works well once or twice per game but if you keep doing it people will just get sick of it and you (not them) will end up looking/sounding like idiots when they don't react.
KTBW2007-11-20 00:09:33

Ive had a fair  few run in's with killjoys who dont realise the yf zone is not the sort of place you can expect to be and stay seated without rowdyness surrounding you. its crap that people come in to the YF zone and think they'll watch the game without any anyone around them getting excited. the whole POINT of being a YF supporter is to show not that you like the game but you LOVE the game.

Crikey, thats not a bad effort for a first post Krystal.

I�m sure a number of you will remember my first post about the timeliness of some of the chants, it seemed to kick up quite a storm.   Well I came away from the game on Saturday thinking that somehow it felt different in the YFZ (in a good way) and I couldn�t quite put my finger on why, after reading some of these posts I think I now understand.

 

I could stand or sit in my own seat, that was nice, I did after all pay for my season ticket and chose where I wanted to sit for a reason. 

 

We weren�t stacked 4 deep in the aisle. 

 

I wasn�t embarrassed by one of the chants, it actually seemed that everyone in the YFZ was responding to what was happening on the pitch rather than trying to look cool in front of their mates.

 

I didn�t get a beer shower.

 

It seems as if some of (if not a lot of) the behavior that was lessening the enjoyment for many in the FZ came from the Turtle Gang (cool name don�t ya think), therefore I think it�s great that they�ve taken their individual style of support to another part of the stadium.

danielsleftball2007-11-20 10:33:10

Haha yeah I�m on a roll now�

I UNDERSTAND the frustration of those who can't handle those who go a bit OTT - but have to admit that SURELY they can see that with football comes a certian degree of 'hoolaginism' � the chanting, the boozing, the all around rowdyness have become a well known part of football all over the globe. fans ENJOY getting excited and no matter whether its football or any other sport you will always have those who 'take it too far' - but in my opinion - they've been pretty well behaved - ESPECIALLY when you compare us to the likes of overseas football matches� or the 7's perhaps...

There hasn't been brawling, and until now there has been no real seperation between us fans. Unfortunatley, the obvious attempt to spilt up those who take it further than others, although quite good in theory has in turn made it an �us vs. them�(YF vs �alternative YF�)  scenario.  Had it NOT been for the seperation, and further banter on this forum � perhaps this seperation would have just been for that game.  It now seems that people are appearing to WANT to split the Yellow Fever supporters � this is the LAST thing the Phoenix need. It will create distration from the games, and in turn FUEL hooliganism. 

When will people just accept that there will be some who will take their show of support further than others; no matter where you go in the world, everyone will act and react differently � but when it comes to a matter like this I�m sure that accepting it is still a reasonable option, shrug it off a bit guys come on.  Do you really think internal fighting and having a go at EACH OTHER is going to be a good way to support the Phoenix? Splitting up will only cause more havoc.  What have they REALLY done to be that bad?  Thrown a few beer bottles?  Chanted �irrelevant� chants sometimes? Come on.

And as for the guy who who spoke of 'irrelevant' chants - lets look at one of those for a tick - people all still get involved - and it makes the atmosphere more electric � so whats the big deal.  For example � the DISCO chant � it gets people chanting, on their feet and excited.  Sure it doesn�t DIRECTLY relate to the nix � but the idea is to create an atmosphere � and I�m pretty sure they know we aren�t chanting for the ozies!

krystal2007-11-20 11:19:20

 

james dean2007-11-20 11:25:26

[QUOTE=krystal]

-but have to admit that SURELY they can see that with football comes a certian degree of 'hoolaginism' �

When will people just accept that there will be some who will take their show of support further than others; no matter where you go in the world, everyone will act and react differently � but when it comes to a matter like this I�m sure that accepting it is still a reasonable option, shrug it off a bit guys come on. 

We need to STOP seperating and start uniting - all this them and us crap is just stupid - we're all backing the same team - why turn on eachother?

keep it under control - sure - but don't be so prejudious as to assume that ALL of those with them are trouble makers.  And furthermore do NOT take it to the point where you assume that it WILL go too far.  The fastest way to cause a problem here is to have a go at them for minor issues that occur occasionally (such as beer bottles being thrown in the air in excitement)  Don't misjudge me here though - i think the incident where they were thrown at players was dispicable!  I'm not saying it's RIGHT i'm saying there is a certian level of tolerency that needs to be met here to keep everything in balance. 

Like the bottle story I think this is getting a bit out of control.

You'll find at other clubs that groups try to seperate from the main supporter group - usually with comments like 'theyrea all cks aeeee'. They rarely last long and are pretty pathetic. Eg the 'SCC' at Sydney, also known as the fat lads wobbling and swinging flags in the corner.

The main group (YF) will always be the way to go.

Might be me, but reading between the lines, there seems to be a feeling in some quarters that going to a 'Nix game is a free pass to do whatever you like with no consequences. News flash, it's not. If you get bevvied in a boozer, or anywhere else for that matter, and start pissing people off you wouldn't expect to get away with it. So why does there seem to be a feeling, amongst some, that it's okay at the football? As has been pointed out, if you are pissing other supporters off then you've crossed the line.

It depends what your doing to annoy other people. Some people get annoyed far to easily.

Hollaginism has been used broadly in this forum to descibe thier actions - I beleive that they are NOT hooligans and I have never believed that there is a place in NZ for Hollaganism.

Mmm, and I think most people are agreeing with you.

I have been to many games at Upton Park, and can tell you for a fact that if you start annoying people about you, you will get a slap and told to pull your head in.  I'd imagine that this is the case in most other grounds around the world.