Wellington Phoenix Men

Who do you want?

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Who do you want?
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

OK this is the business end of the recruitment campaign. We have filled 17 out of the 23 man roster.  We have signed 1 of the required 3 youth players. And 2 of the 4 non New Zealand or Australian imports. Realistically who could we sign to fill up these spots. Ivan Vicelichs RKC Waalwijk has been officially relegated from the Dutch Euredivisie. So he could still be an option. There could still be a couple of South Americans on the way so that looks promising. Also on looking at the MLS player salaries, they are nowhere near as high as i thought they would be so i am gobsmacked by why we are not looking there for a PROVEN not PAST IT player. One thing i really think we need is a star striker, as much as i've heard people bag Archie Thompson, anyone close to his ability would be great. As much as i love Covs, hes 34 and cant do it all. Most of all i hope that none of the next group of signings are squad fillers.

SO  REALISTICALLY WHICH PLAYERS DO YOU WANT FILLING OUR LAST SPOTS?
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I could be wrong (shock horror) but didn't ricki say Costa wouldn't count as one of our U20's?
Of the under 20's Cole Peverly, Michael Boxall, Brockie and maybe Spoonley (unsure of his age) would be options.

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why wouldn't Costa count as an U-20? If he's under 20 years of age then he should count as an U-20.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

*Jeremy Brockie

*Shane Smeltz
 
* Peverly
 
*Import
 
*Import
 
*Ivan Vicelich (play him in deefence
 
---------------------------------------------------Paston----------------------------------------------------------
 
Import--------------------------Vicelich----------------------Dodd-----------------------------Lochhead
 
 
Brown-----------------------Aloisi---------------------Campos-------------------------------Daniel
 
-----------------------------Import---------------------Smeltz
 
Bench----moss,O'dor, Ferrante, Coveny
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Looking forward to the games from both the youth world cups,
See if anyone shines.
Also keen to see who the imports are!!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
---------------------------------------------------Paston----------------------------------------------------------
 
Import--------------------------Vicelich----------------------Dodd-----------------------------Lochhead
 
 
Brown-----------------------Aloisi---------------------Campos-------------------------------Daniel
 
-----------------------------Import---------------------Smeltz

That would be one hell of a side if we pulled that off!
 
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think it was O'dor that could be included in the quota, but isn't. Maybe they will change their mind though if they dont have the space. Vicelich would be good to see back playing football in NZ for the Phoenix. I think a right winger for our next signing, we have enough central midfielders, but no real wide players with pace. Lei Lei Gao showed for the Knights last year, the difference a quality winger can make, hopefully Daniel and another quality winger could have the same effect. 
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Totori mate Sign totori!!!!!!!!!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Milton Rodriguez
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Na milton swallows

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Grow up
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yea sighn totori, his free now from that richmond club

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why wouldn't Costa count as an U-20? If he's under 20 years of age then he should count as an U-20.
 
According to sources close to the pheonix [undisclosable] because costa has never had a professional contract in his life and is under the age of 18, under Australian Soccer rules (Phoenix is officially under Australian Regulation) he cannot even PLAY this year.
 
Somthing along those lines, might have my sh*t twisted but yeah.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I would like to see Ben Sigmund signed, if hes good enough for the AWs, hes good enough for WPFC.

Vichelich would be nice, but, surely he would want a large slice of the salary cap pie?

I think that Totori should get a crack in the pre season...anyone who is top scorer in the NZFC deserves a go at the A-league.


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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
PROAK wrote:
I could be wrong (shock horror) but didn't ricki say Costa wouldn't count as one of our U20's?
Of the under 20's Cole Peverly, Michael Boxall, Brockie and maybe Spoonley (unsure of his age) would be options.

Well if Costa doesn't count, then I would go with Boxall, Brockie and Spoonley....pity Craig Henderson went to US cos he could have been worth a shot too. chareimos2007-06-02 21:41:17
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If Costa cant play thats bullsh*t!!!!!!!!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ricki stated O'Dor wasn't one of the three despite being elligible.  I've seen nothing on Costa not being one, and I'm pretty sure the release announcing his signing stated he definitely was.

The thing about not having a pro contract and not being 18 would stop any of the Aus sides signing future stars like Broxham and the Liverpool keeper so it sounds fishy to me.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah apparently Vicelichs wife is keen on staying in holland or europe at least. I wouldve been keen for Sigmund instead of Christie. But we dont need sigmund now because we need quality proven players now, as the young or average ones are already signed. We need 2 good imports to play defence and striker. The rumours lately seem to be around Brokie, Smeltz and Sigmund. Im hoping to hear signings of an australian defender and striker, and also an import defnder and striker but i wont hold my breath. It kind of annoys me how we havent learnt anything from the knights. Because if we did Jonas Salley, LeiLei Gao, Alen Marcina and Li Yan would be on the books. And the man who recruited Yan, Marcina and Gao (Simmonds) would be helping recruit players but none of the Knights best players will be taking the field and simmonds is in the UK.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Simmonds was here as he was one of Anthony Lees mates. Given the way the knights were treated by the FFZ and NZ Soccer it is unlikely we will benefit from the recruitment ability that simmonds showed. As much as it would be great to see marcina back it wont happen, would be great if it did but it wont.
Agree totori should be given a go especially now pre season rules have been relaxed and clubs can 'trial' players
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
how much would Vicelich cost

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

*Jeremy Brockie

*Shane Smeltz
 
* Peverly
 
*Import
 
*Import
 
*Ivan Vicelich (play him in deefence
 
---------------------------------------------------Paston----------------------------------------------------------
 
Import--------------------------Vicelich----------------------Dodd-----------------------------Lochhead
 
 
Brown-----------------------Aloisi---------------------Campos-------------------------------Daniel
 
-----------------------------Import---------------------Smeltz
 
Bench----moss,O'dor, Ferrante, Coveny
 
 
4 new zealand players in that whole team... for the starting line up.. not impressed

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh no....someone cant count. I'll help:
PASTON
VICELICH
LOCHHEAD
BROWN
SMELTZ
 
thats 5!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Sign Kerlon from brazil!

He is quality.....im not sure what he would cost but defintly hot.
 
I would be happy to sign also!
 
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Xcellent wrote:
Oh no....someone cant count. I'll help:
PASTON
VICELICH
LOCHHEAD
BROWN
SMELTZ
 
thats 5!
 
 
my bad i didnt know brown was kiwi

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kerlon Moura Souza
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<!-- start content --> Kerlon Personal information Full name Kerlon Moura Souza Date of birth January 27, 1988 (1988-01-27) (age 19) Place of birth    Ipatinga,
Minas Gerais, Brazil Height 1.67 m Playing position Attacking Midfielder / Forward Club information Current club Cruzeiro E.C. Number 20 Youth clubs 2001-2005 Cruzeiro E.C. Senior clubs1 Years Club App (Gls)* 2005� Cruzeiro E.C. 031 0(1)    National team2 2002-2003
2004-2005
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2006� Brazil U15
Brazil U17
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1 Senior club appearances and goals
counted for the domestic league only and
correct as of 22:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC).
2 National team caps and goals correct
as of 22:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC).
* Appearances (Goals)

Kerlon Moura Souza (born January 27, 1988 in Ipatinga, Brazil) is a Brazilian football player, who currently plays for Cruzeiro Esporte Clube. He was the top scorer and best player at the 2005 Venezuela U17 South American Youth Championship.

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//<![C[ if (.showTocToggle) { var tocShowText = "show"; var tocHideText = "hide"; showTocToggle(); } //]]> [edit] Early career

He is a center forward known for his ability to flick the ball up onto his head and run with it during matches. It is known as the seal dribble, and is very hard for the defending team to challenge legally. Flicking the ball up from the turf onto his head, Kerlon then proceeds to run past opponents, whilst bouncing the ball on top of his forehead. The speed at which he travels when doing this, coupled with his ability to change direction as he runs with the ball above his head, often makes opponents resort to simply pushing him over and fouling him. He is said to have learned the move from his father, Silvinho, who was stunned when Kerlon mastered the seal dribble move.[1] He has been linked with big clubs such as Barcelona, Real Madrid, Arsenal and Manchester United.


It's just a skill I have, though it's not meant to be a mark of disrespect for my opponents. Opponents say they will snap me. But this doesn�t scare me it just motivates me even more.
�Kerlon[1]

Although established as his trademark, the player has other talents up his sleeve. Able to operate in an advanced midfield position, or as a forward, Kerlon is also a proficient dribbler and possesses the ability to slip weighted passes in behind defenses. He also takes free-kicks since the seal dribble draws many fouls.


This South American Championships came to change my life, my destiny. I am more mature and I want to be used in the Brazilian Championship. I�m just waiting for the call from Levir (head coach of Cruzeiro EC at the time).
�Kerlon[2]

Kerlon has created a lot of noise and has drawn much attention to himself, he has already been called by many the next Ronaldinho, so as expected he has been linked with a number of clubs all across Europe. Kerlon intends to emulate and achieve what Ronaldinho and Ronaldo have achieved with Brazil[3]. For the time being he has a contract with Cruzeiro which he extended on May 25, 2005 up until the year 2009.[4]

[edit] Transfer

Manchester United were said to be pursuing the young star who could bring the 'seal dribble' to the Premiership. Sir Alex Ferguson supposedly discovered Kerlon during the South American Championships, which he was named top scorer and best player. However, both clubs later downplayed this rumor and insisted that neither sides were in contact with each other about the proposed transfer.[5]

Manchester United have long been thought to have interest in the South American youngster in the British press, but Kerlon has been linked with Italian football clubs as of late, especially Inter and Milan.

His manager was quoted saying, "all of the world knows that Kerlon is the rising star of Brazilian football," "all the main Italian and Spanish clubs are on him," during an interview with www.calciomercato.com where he discusses Kerlon's future and European possibilities. He also stated that it was possible for Kerlon to arrive in Europe, in the January transfer window or in June. In the interview his manager, Mino Raiola, said that the starting bid for him was �10 million. His manager also compared him to Messi of Barcelona saying he will be "better than Barcelona's Argentine" [6]. It should be noted that even though Kerlon has had 26 appearances with Cruzeiro he did not score a single goal in the Brazilian S�rie A as of 2006 or in any other competition.[7]. His move to Europe has been doubted because of recent comments where he has stated himself "not yet ready" to play European football and that he would like to play the 2007 season with Cruzeiro [8]. It has also been confirmed that if he does indeed move to Europe it will be on a permanent basis and under no condition would it be on loan[8]. Kerlon was offered to Palmeiras, another Brazilian club, along with Martinez in a trade for Palmeiras' Marcinho in the 2007 January transfer window [9] [10]. Although this was proposed, Martinez and team mate Leandro were traded instead of Kerlon [11]. Kerlon finally scored his first professional goal on February 25, 2007 against Ituiutaba Esporte Clube, Cruzeiro won the game 4-1.[12].

[edit] Awards & Honors [edit] Personal distinctions [edit] Footnotes
  1. ^ a b "He of the seal dribble", The New Boys From Brazil, November 18, 2006. Retrieved on November 18, 2006.
  2. ^ "Kerlon, a new star", Kerlon's Biography, July 5, 2006. Retrieved on November 18, 2006.
  3. ^ "Kerlon aiming to emulate two Rons", BBC Sports, April 18, 2005. Retrieved on January 2, 2007.
  4. ^ "Kerlon extends Cruzeiro deal to 2009", ESPN, May 25, 2005. Retrieved on September 15, 2006.
  5. ^ "Manchester United�s Kerlon move played down", FansFC, May 22, 2006. Retrieved on November 26, 2006.
  6. ^ "Kerlon primed for European move", Eurosport, November 7, 2006. Retrieved on November 18, 2006.
  7. ^ "2006 Cruzeiro Stats", Cruzeiro's Official Website, November 12, 2006. Retrieved on November 18, 2006. (Portuguese)
  8. ^ a b "Agente garante que Kerlon n�o sai emprestado", Cruzeiro.org, November 24, 2006. Retrieved on November 26, 2006. (Portuguese)
  9. ^ "Kerlon surpreso com chance de ir para o Palmeiras", GloboEsporte, December 29, 2006. Retrieved on January 1, 2007. (Portuguese)
  10. ^ "Kerlon pode defender o Palmeiras em 2007", Cruzeiro.org, December 29, 2006. Retrieved on January 1, 2007. (Portuguese)
  11. ^ "Confirmado: Palmeiras e Cruzeiro fazem troca-troca", GloboEsporte January 2, 2007. Retrieved on January 2, 2007. (Portuguese)
  12. ^ "Kerlon marca primeiro gol e almeja titularidade", Cruzeiro.org February 25, 2007. Retrieved on February 25, 2007. (Portuguese)
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F�bio | 2 Gabriel | 3 Andr� Lu�s | 4 Gladstone | 5 Renan | 6 F�bio Santos | 7 Ara�jo | 8 Ricardinho | 9 R�mulo | 10 Marcinho | 11 Geovanni | 12 Lauro | 13 Jonathan | 14 Luiz�o | 15 Thiago Heleno | 16 Jo�o Victor | 19 Leandro Domingues | 20 Kerlon | 21 Maicosuel | 22 Fellype Gabriel | 23 Nen� | 24 Fl�vio | 25 Sim�es | 26 Anderson | 27 Guilherme | 29 Marcelo Moreno | 30 Rafinha | 31 Bruno | 32 L�o Silva | 37 Jonathas | � L�o Fortunato | � Ramires | Manager: Vacant

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some how i dont think so...

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm not convinced. We need more info...
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah Kerlon will come to the Phoenix
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
TheJam wrote:
I'm not convinced. We need more info...
Funny man .
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
haha r u serious! Kerlon? mateee we have noooooo chance of signing him. Hes class and like someone said he was linked to united for ages. Still young too. Dreaming a bit cuz. Lets look at the Teddy Sheringhams etc who r at the end of there career.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kerlon will have bigger and better things on his mind, dreams are free though.


Vichelich is a decent player, but will probably want alot of money (top 3 in the club IMO) because thats what he would be used to in Clogland. i don't think he will sign.


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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Vichelich and Kerlon would be great addition's, but im sure they want to go somewhere safe, not a new team that started from scratch that could easily do crap and do nothing for them as players.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yeah-he is great, maybe a cheaper player with the same style could be good....and i know just the addition!
A real seal!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If Vicelich is going to demand high money i wouldnt take him. Theres no doubt hes a good player but for a price.
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about 9 years ago

Bump.

One From the vaults. Some interesting names being touted back in 2007...

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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about 9 years ago

C-Diddy wrote:

Bump.

One From the vaults. Some interesting names being touted back in 2007...

What happened to Kerlon, was a massive fan back in the day. 

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about 9 years ago

Needs more Plodder !!

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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about 9 years ago

Most of these posters have not posted in a very long time

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