Wellington Phoenix Women General Discussion and Squad Speculation

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Elbo

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Pretty hard to find a venue with optimal transport/parking options (and not next to a zoo)

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/132725337/wellington-phoenix-close-to-announcing-two-more-aleague-women-visa-signings

This is a really good insight into the coaches thoughts.
Satchell off to play in London.

Elbo

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Would have thought Hutt Rec might be worth a shout with expected crowds should be able to get by with just the small stand thats there. Then again the pathetic Hutt City Council would prefer to waste money on a cricket pitch that will probably be lucky to attract 100 people to a game.

Thought I heard Dome on a podcast say that the cost of setting up all the TV related equipment at an alternative stadium in Wellington for the womens team, was way more expensive than anticipated.
Probably the best scenario for the organisation is to have double headers at Sky stadium as often as they can. So you'd think that aligning the men's and women's schedules to some degree would make sense.

ballane

Elbo

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Would have thought Hutt Rec might be worth a shout with expected crowds should be able to get by with just the small stand thats there. Then again the pathetic Hutt City Council would prefer to waste money on a cricket pitch that will probably be lucky to attract 100 people to a game.

they need lights for the TV broadcast. 

Ranix

Thought I heard Dome on a podcast say that the cost of setting up all the TV related equipment at an alternative stadium in Wellington for the womens team, was way more expensive than anticipated.
Probably the best scenario for the organisation is to have double headers at Sky stadium as often as they can. So you'd think that aligning the men's and women's schedules to some degree would make sense.

i'd be surprised if the Nix had to pick up that cost, I'd have thought it was Sky, or Paramount.

VAR and goal line tech are not a 5 minute job either. 
I thought they would be a requirement.

ClubOranje

VAR and goal line tech are not a 5 minute job either. 
I thought they would be a requirement.

ALW doesn't have VAR

Ryan

ballane

Elbo

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Would have thought Hutt Rec might be worth a shout with expected crowds should be able to get by with just the small stand thats there. Then again the pathetic Hutt City Council would prefer to waste money on a cricket pitch that will probably be lucky to attract 100 people to a game.

they need lights for the TV broadcast. 

Porirua Park is the obv choice surely? ground re-done for the south african team during the world cup?

RR

ClubOranje

VAR and goal line tech are not a 5 minute job either. 
I thought they would be a requirement.

ALW doesn't have VAR

They were going to for this season, but you are likely right, they may have not followed through with that.
Did they use VAR for any of the double headers at Wellington last season? It seemed some decisions had a bit of a delay at the games I attended, which included all the double headers.  Or maybe that was just perception.

zonknz

Ryan

ballane

Elbo

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Would have thought Hutt Rec might be worth a shout with expected crowds should be able to get by with just the small stand thats there. Then again the pathetic Hutt City Council would prefer to waste money on a cricket pitch that will probably be lucky to attract 100 people to a game.

they need lights for the TV broadcast. 

Porirua Park is the obv choice surely? ground re-done for the south african team during the world cup?

Newton Park was redone for the Americans, has a decent sized stand and relly good lighting now,

theprof

zonknz

Ryan

ballane

Elbo

Feverish

Are they playing games at the stadium this year?

Heard a rumour about Newtown for  the women

Would have thought Hutt Rec might be worth a shout with expected crowds should be able to get by with just the small stand thats there. Then again the pathetic Hutt City Council would prefer to waste money on a cricket pitch that will probably be lucky to attract 100 people to a game.

they need lights for the TV broadcast. 

Porirua Park is the obv choice surely? ground re-done for the south african team during the world cup?

Newton Park was redone for the Americans, has a decent sized stand and relly good lighting now,

You’d think it would fall short of a bit of criteria though. You need more then a pitch 

Pitch, lighting, stand, facilities but I doubt it would meet TV standards.

Just on this Voerman article on "why can't our womenfolk score goals": I've always had this very unscientific "feeling" that it's because girls in our system are trained specifically not to be goal-hungry because it's "selfish", and we overemphasis passing play. Am I talking nonsense or have other people noticed this?

Doloras

Just on this Voerman article on "why can't our womenfolk score goals": I've always had this very unscientific "feeling" that it's because girls in our system are trained specifically not to be goal-hungry because it's "selfish", and we overemphasis passing play. Am I talking nonsense or have other people noticed this?

I'd say it's not just a women's football thing but a sporting cuture thing that's being trained at the moment. So many coaches are taching kids to look for the pass over taking the shot. So much so that open shots are not being taken.

theprof

Pitch, lighting, stand, facilities but I doubt it would meet TV standards.

I assume lighting but not the rest. There isn't even warm up areas. 

Feverish

theprof

Pitch, lighting, stand, facilities but I doubt it would meet TV standards.

I assume lighting but not the rest. There isn't even warm up areas. 

Technically #2 culd be a warm up area, they upgraded the lighting there too.

Feverish

theprof

Pitch, lighting, stand, facilities but I doubt it would meet TV standards.

I assume lighting but not the rest. There isn't even warm up areas. 

theprof

Doloras

Just on this Voerman article on "why can't our womenfolk score goals": I've always had this very unscientific "feeling" that it's because girls in our system are trained specifically not to be goal-hungry because it's "selfish", and we overemphasis passing play. Am I talking nonsense or have other people noticed this?

I'd say it's not just a women's football thing but a sporting cuture thing that's being trained at the moment. So many coaches are taching kids to look for the pass over taking the shot. So much so that open shots are not being taken.

what you don't want is the young athletic players developing the mindset that the way to score goals is to dribble around and outpace everyone from half-way and slot the ball past keeper in 1v1.  What gets you your McDonalds player of the day Happy Meal voucher aged 8 is not going to get you a Visa Player of the Match trophy in your 20's.  Eventually you will come up against defenders who are as athletic and as quick as you are, and you  have nothing in your tool-box to counteract them as you have not been taught how to scan, pass, and move etc.

reubee

theprof

Doloras

Just on this Voerman article on "why can't our womenfolk score goals": I've always had this very unscientific "feeling" that it's because girls in our system are trained specifically not to be goal-hungry because it's "selfish", and we overemphasis passing play. Am I talking nonsense or have other people noticed this?

I'd say it's not just a women's football thing but a sporting cuture thing that's being trained at the moment. So many coaches are taching kids to look for the pass over taking the shot. So much so that open shots are not being taken.

what you don't want is the young athletic players developing the mindset that the way to score goals is to dribble around and outpace everyone from half-way and slot the ball past keeper in 1v1.  What gets you your McDonalds player of the day Happy Meal voucher aged 8 is not going to get you a Visa Player of the Match trophy in your 20's.  Eventually you will come up against defenders who are as athletic and as quick as you are, and you  have nothing in your tool-box to counteract them as you have not been taught how to scan, pass, and move etc.

yeah but if you dont have the hunger/drive to shoot and score and you only thought is to pass to someone else you end up with noone scoring.

RR

.@WgtnPhoenixFC close to announcing two more @aleaguewomen visa signings https://t.co/ZsyznP44Oj

— Andrew Voerman (@andrewvoerman) August 11, 2023

Should be announced today, had a chat with Domey last night and he said as much.

theprof

Feverish

theprof

Pitch, lighting, stand, facilities but I doubt it would meet TV standards.

I assume lighting but not the rest. There isn't even warm up areas. 

Technically #2 culd be a warm up area, they upgraded the lighting there too.

Feverish

theprof

Pitch, lighting, stand, facilities but I doubt it would meet TV standards.

I assume lighting but not the rest. There isn't even warm up areas. 

yeah true. Oh hang on this isn't Masters 4

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Kiwi's in the goals again in NPL NSW.
Charlotte Lancaster with a goal for Bulls FC and
Kelli Brown with another banger direct from a free kick for Macarthur Rams. at 3.47 of the highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYvULvGNv4s

Just a warning - if you Google "Hailey Davidson" you get a prominent transgender golfer, that must be a bit tricky to explain in Florida

Great signing - Hints that she is an attacking wingback rather than a defensive wingback in the presser released perhaps we could be looking at playing 3 at the back + wingbacks? with the number of defenders, we have currently signed. Something like Davidson Barry Taylor VDM Foster

razzag

Great signing - Hints that she is an attacking wingback rather than a defensive wingback in the presser released perhaps we could be looking at playing 3 at the back + wingbacks? with the number of defenders, we have currently signed. Something like Davidson Barry Taylor VDM Foster

Maybe Taylor is the holding destroying centre mid we missed last year when Gomez was injured?

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razzag

Great signing - Hints that she is an attacking wingback rather than a defensive wingback in the presser released perhaps we could be looking at playing 3 at the back + wingbacks? with the number of defenders, we have currently signed. Something like Davidson Barry Taylor VDM Foster

Maybe Taylor is the holding destroying centre mid we missed last year when Gomez was injured?

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Possible 41212 lineup. Bring in a striker or two, Taylor can drop into the backline when Foster and Davidson bomb forward.

Charlotte Lancasters goal this week.
Gets play of the week in NPL. Typical banger from Charlotte. But on her right foot...She must now me drawing A league attention also.
https://twitter.com/mfcbulls/status/1691601936305319989

Newtown Park has shark car Parking. With the Zoo next door to compete with too. Although, at least the Lions will "roar" them on - I'll get me coat.

That is true, parking is an issue. 

Coach Paul Temple talks up an attacking game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BaNfGZZfbk
We are going to need a few more forwards in the squad for that happen. Currently heavy with midfielders and defenders.
Surely the next few signings will need to be genuine forwards. Strikers and/or wingers. Looking forward to seeing who he's got lined up.

Ranix

Coach Paul Temple talks up an attacking game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BaNfGZZfbk
We are going to need a few more forwards in the squad for that happen. Currently heavy with midfielders and defenders.
Surely the next few signings will need to be genuine forwards. Strikers and/or wingers. Looking forward to seeing who he's got lined up.

That confirms it then, Newtown Park. 
No parking for the bus, so attacking football it is.

ClubOranje

Ranix

Coach Paul Temple talks up an attacking game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BaNfGZZfbk
We are going to need a few more forwards in the squad for that happen. Currently heavy with midfielders and defenders.
Surely the next few signings will need to be genuine forwards. Strikers and/or wingers. Looking forward to seeing who he's got lined up.

That confirms it then, Newtown Park. 
No parking for the bus, so attacking football it is.

No coat? In Wellington? 

We need to sign a keeper.

Showtime Nixie

We need to sign a keeper.

Yes.
Lily Alfeld is still struggling with injury by all accounts.
I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in an import keeper.

Showtime Nixie

We need to sign a keeper.

A backup keeper to Bri Edwards? Or in place of Bri?