Ended up a shambles. May have been different but for Foster's stuff up. But my lord there was some strange stuff and strange decisions going on out there
Even I could see that on my pixelated stream right away that it was a handball.
Shocker. She should not be on the park. Clear penalty and red card.
Great case for the VAR for sure. Saw it with Newcastle v Sunderland where Isak was through and the covering defender Pollard just grabbed his shirt and pulled him down. Difficult for the ref to see.
Better team won we can have no complaints, if they had a finisher in them that roar team would be a real force in this league. Let's be honest before our couple of late chances the game couldve and probably shouldve been 5,6-1.
Fraser, Barry a distance from the rest tonight...never stopped working and did what expected from them.
How Foster in the middle stayed on for 80 mins is scandalous. I feel somewhat sorry for her shes been planted there and hung out to dry.
we were 2-1 down and losing early in that second half and not looking at all likely to score...why are we waiting to 80th min to make a sub? shouldve chased the game earlier imo. Maybe i'm watching a different game.
Speckmaier, I say it every week i genuinely do not think she will score from open play and if she does it will be a one off. She is isolated and often on her own so some sympathy but i'm not sure shes a title winning striker.
Foster the keeper....dare i say it again.....actually i wont i'll upset too many.
agree with some above/earlier comments...why we doing complicated short corners when anyone with half a brain knows our full corners are our biggest strength!! that crap is just someone in the dugout justifying their job. Also someone mentioned not many players ended up in positions they started...100% bang on....absolute mess!!!! That is not professional football!
Journalists need to start asking staff some serious and proper questions...maybe interrogate or challenge them a little. Getting away with murder at the moment...this started weeks ago.
The new coach sugar hit seems to be over.
Yes..i know its better than previous years but please lets not use last year as a marker....we need to delete the Lawrence era from living memory.
This team has some quality about it...i still enjoy and get excited for games they give us hope...but it all seems a bit messy at the moment. Happy for some to agree to disagree.
Some of these slow starting Aussie teams starting to pick up the pace...
I wouldn't be unhappy to never see Davidson, Breslin or Robertson again after that. Play Mcmeeken right back and Foster at left back where she belongs. Speckmaier was as frustrating as hell, maybe that's why the coach had her in at least 4 different positions during the game. Cox was moved about too much as well. We had Lake in midfield for about 10 mins. Longo seemed to go to left back, where was Main and Taylor,god my brain hurts after trying to make sense of that game. Good night!
felt for Cox...wants to come in and make a difference and prove a point but gets mucked around positionally. If that was a mens team players would be going to the board about the coach. Someone needs to ask this guy Temple whats going on? Love to hear his answers.
ps. not at Lawrence levels yet. Maybe learning...i'll spare him a few more weeks.
Better team won we can have no complaints, if they had a finisher in them that roar team would be a real force in this league. Let's be honest before our couple of late chances the game couldve and probably shouldve been 5,6-1.
Fraser, Barry a distance from the rest tonight...never stopped working and did what expected from them.
How Foster in the middle stayed on for 80 mins is scandalous. I feel somewhat sorry for her shes been planted there and hung out to dry.
we were 2-1 down and losing early in that second half and not looking at all likely to score...why are we waiting to 80th min to make a sub? shouldve chased the game earlier imo. Maybe i'm watching a different game.
Speckmaier, I say it every week i genuinely do not think she will score from open play and if she does it will be a one off. She is isolated and often on her own so some sympathy but i'm not sure shes a title winning striker.
Foster the keeper....dare i say it again.....actually i wont i'll upset too many.
agree with some above/earlier comments...why we doing complicated short corners when anyone with half a brain knows our full corners are our biggest strength!! that crap is just someone in the dugout justifying their job. Also someone mentioned not many players ended up in positions they started...100% bang on....absolute mess!!!! That is not professional football!
Journalists need to start asking staff some serious and proper questions...maybe interrogate or challenge them a little. Getting away with murder at the moment...this started weeks ago.
The new coach sugar hit seems to be over.
Yes..i know its better than previous years but please lets not use last year as a marker....we need to delete the Lawrence era from living memory.
This team has some quality about it...i still enjoy and get excited for games they give us hope...but it all seems a bit messy at the moment. Happy for some to agree to disagree.
Some of these slow starting Aussie teams starting to pick up the pace...
Agree, it’s especially hard seeing us wait until the 80th (near enough) minute before making an attacking sub. Breslin should have come off at half time (maybe not even have started after her last performance) and Sepckmier wasn’t in the game much. But if you actually want to give your subs a chance of making an impact surely 20mins is the min, or it’s like ah well? I’m the same breath thought Robertson was the only one that injected anything different, just needs more backing by the coach. Really missed Taylor and Main, anyone know why they were out? (Sorry if I’ve missed this above)
Better team won we can have no complaints, if they had a finisher in them that roar team would be a real force in this league. Let's be honest before our couple of late chances the game couldve and probably shouldve been 5,6-1.
Fraser, Barry a distance from the rest tonight...never stopped working and did what expected from them.
How Foster in the middle stayed on for 80 mins is scandalous. I feel somewhat sorry for her shes been planted there and hung out to dry.
we were 2-1 down and losing early in that second half and not looking at all likely to score...why are we waiting to 80th min to make a sub? shouldve chased the game earlier imo. Maybe i'm watching a different game.
Speckmaier, I say it every week i genuinely do not think she will score from open play and if she does it will be a one off. She is isolated and often on her own so some sympathy but i'm not sure shes a title winning striker.
Foster the keeper....dare i say it again.....actually i wont i'll upset too many.
agree with some above/earlier comments...why we doing complicated short corners when anyone with half a brain knows our full corners are our biggest strength!! that crap is just someone in the dugout justifying their job. Also someone mentioned not many players ended up in positions they started...100% bang on....absolute mess!!!! That is not professional football!
Journalists need to start asking staff some serious and proper questions...maybe interrogate or challenge them a little. Getting away with murder at the moment...this started weeks ago.
The new coach sugar hit seems to be over.
Yes..i know its better than previous years but please lets not use last year as a marker....we need to delete the Lawrence era from living memory.
This team has some quality about it...i still enjoy and get excited for games they give us hope...but it all seems a bit messy at the moment. Happy for some to agree to disagree.
Some of these slow starting Aussie teams starting to pick up the pace...
Gee it doesn't take many losses for you to go all negative and say that they're "getting away with murder". Unbelievable, we're in 4th place y'know.
I wouldn't be unhappy to never see Davidson, Breslin or Robertson again after that. Play Mcmeeken right back and Foster at left back where she belongs. Speckmaier was as frustrating as hell, maybe that's why the coach had her in at least 4 different positions during the game. Cox was moved about too much as well. We had Lake in midfield for about 10 mins. Longo seemed to go to left back, where was Main and Taylor,god my brain hurts after trying to make sense of that game. Good night!
It was frustrating to see Davidson outpaced by Freier for the second goal assist, but aside from that I thought she played okay. What wasn't okay (in my view), was Fraser's ridiculous shot on goal from the kick-off that simply handed possession to Brisbane and allowed Freier to make her goal-assisting run.
Perhaps Main, Taylor and Elliot were stricken with the bug that Temple said was going around the team when he was interviewed earlier in the week.
Worst performance so far this season, second half was a real shambles at times and totally frustrating. We can be so naive, have to be better in the moments. We have to cut out so many of these low percentage long shots too, many were too easy for the keeper. And make better use of field position when we have the ball around there box. Thought we really missed Taylor in mid field with her ability to spread the pass. Foot injury apparently. Time to bench Speckmaier and Breslin, they just haven't offered anything for a while now. Bring in Main and Brown for mine.... What a shocker from the ref, not to see the handball on the goal line. It clearly stopped a certain goal.......
Thats now three clear and obvious penaltys that have not been called. The goal saving hand ball on the line last night The blatant shirt pull in the box last week against Sydney. And the push in the back to Speckmaier when she was in on goal the week earlier.
Conspiracy theory anyone....... Actually just think its a case of referees that doubt themselves and are not willing to make big calls in case they get it wrong.
Well that was a shame. Have to think that if we'd been able to put away some of out shots in the first half we could have been 2 or 3 up. Got to be more ruthless. On the goals we conceded. Davidson totally at fault for the first! WTF is she doing? Everytime she defends she turns her back to the player and runs with her and she is miles away from the attacker. I said it earlier in the season, I question her defensive ability and think McMeeken would be the better option. The second goal was again a poor decision from a defender to pass the ball to the keeper when the only option was to go down the line, I'm not sure but I think it was Barry who passed to Foster. As for our chance, stoked for Cox to score from the corner, but how many chances did we waste, Speckmeier seems to have gone off the boil, maybe defences have worked her out? Breslin seems also to be lacking something. Think Cox up front would be a better option, but man she seems slower than a snail. Robertson has pace, and ok control, but as mentioned earlier she loses posession a lot, but then we seem to lose posessesion alot anyway, especially in bad positions. The ref was very lenient on tackles, I dont think I sawe a single card issued, when there should have been 3/4 for both sides. Loads of shirt pulling, pushing in the back etc. As for the handball, deadset pen! How the ref missed that I dont know. VAR would have called that back - need to get VAR into the women's game, despite it's vagueries. Overall I'm dissapointed we didnt do more with the chances we had and the poor decsion making. The core squad is decent and we have to remember that we are still 4th and playing a lot better than we have in the first two seasons.
Like the rest I thought Barry was the most impressive, Fraser tried hard and looked the most likely to score or create. Lake wins everything in the air, and was decent too. I'm not convinced R Foster is a better keeper than Edwards, and M Foster is a LB, play her there. Not sure what Breslin brings to the side as an import. Is Temple trying too hard to prove he's a mini-Pep? The handball was obvious, but the only conclusion is the officials didn't see it, so perhaps some blame lies there in their positioning. Some of the grounds the women play at make it a tough watch on TV too...
BRESLIN is the slowest professional footballer in the world maybe outside Wisneski. How is she even playing let alone taking an import slot. Love to know what the coaches think she offers. I'm like others here struggling to see what she brings to the table.
People calling for Robertson to get cut...i can see why she is frustrating at times with bad touches and some careless finishing buuuuut....in this league when the opposition women get tired (their effort levels drop dramatically) she can come on and lift a team with her energy and pace off the bench and put the opposition on notice somehwhat....i know its bare minimum stuff but its womens a-league we talking here. We are quite a slow team.
Temple mini pep? Scary thing is he probably thinks he is. But god knows what team he will put out this week and what players will play where! the players won't even know! shambolic scenes really.
Two homes games so may get away with wayward coaching but these aussie teams are picking up the pace we must get it right.
Robertson looks too much like a not so good version of Paige Satchell to me. I'm not a fan of the silly number of subs allowed these days, it's too disruptive. But given that, it was manic what went on yesterday. Davidson and Breslin should have gone much earlier. The attacking subs were way too a late to make a difference,but Robertson ended up with enough involvement to not get given another chance in a hurry. I just don't know about Brown, we just haven’t seen enough of her to tell,but I suspect she could do a job right at the pointy end,but hasn't had an opportunity .
Oh, and we played in the appalling black kit again. Dumb
It was a brilliant through ball from Brown that set up Robertsons chance on goal. Brown has recent history of goal scoring. She was in great touch at NPL level. She was great in and around the box. Where as our imports have been struggling in that department. I think Brown deserves a chance now.
I get that this is a fan forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion but in my view some of the negative comments show a lack of perspective and maybe a willingness to try and understand the challenges that the squad faces. For example yesterday's selection was severely impacted by Kate Taylor's injury and illness. Main and Elliot were unavailable and I understand that although Davidson played she was also affected. It was obvious from the half time pictures that she was really struggling. Previous weeks selections have also been impacted by injuries and illness and disruption through the international window. I'm not sure how the manager is supposed to maintain a settled line up through all of that.
Yesterday we had a really good period for 25 minutes of the first half where we played some terrific football. Much of that came down our right hand side and Cox, Longo, Fraser, Speckmaier and Davidson were all prominent in that period. If we had scored a second during that period I doubt Brisbane would have come back. We conceded in unfortunate circumstances and the side seemed to lose confidence as a result. I agree that we were below par in the second spell but we still created opportunities which could have changed the result.
It's worth noting that away sides have one about 1 in 4 games in this league. The games we have lost have all been by a single goal and with an ounce of luck (and better finishing) we could have won all 4.
We've lost 3 of the original squad. We're 4th on the table. Although we are lacking consistency and a real 90 minute performance we are playing some really attractive football and creating a really good impression even with some of the harsh Aussie critics. All in all a lot to be positive about after 11 games.
A team will often have to change starting line up due to injury or illness i accept that, but i never at professional level to you move players around during games like we have been...its a mess and as a player you'd be hating it. Looks like the coach doesn't know what to do and is trying things as they pop into his head. Never seen anything like it. Don't deserve anything from games approaching it like that.
4th sounds great yes....players had a sugar hit with fresh coach it happens all around the world. If we finish out of the playoff are you going to say but we were 4th at the start? Critique and evaluate the moment not the past....we look a disarray at times. Can it get better? in womens a-league it can you'll always get inconsistent performances from teams around you.....but we need to be better. Temple has the blue suit white sneakers and fresh but he may need some help from a more experienced person at the club just to reign in some control and decision making. All a bit amateurish of late. And yes players can do better to possibly help things but they have excuses to be fair.
Two home games....aussie teams struggle in NZ thats always a huge help to us. We need a win.
A team will often have to change starting line up due to injury or illness i accept that, but i never at professional level to you move players around during games like we have been...its a mess and as a player you'd be hating it. Looks like the coach doesn't know what to do and is trying things as they pop into his head. Never seen anything like it. Don't deserve anything from games approaching it like that.
4th sounds great yes....players had a sugar hit with fresh coach it happens all around the world. If we finish out of the playoff are you going to say but we were 4th at the start? Critique and evaluate the moment not the past....we look a disarray at times. Can it get better? in womens a-league it can you'll always get inconsistent performances from teams around you.....but we need to be better. Temple has the blue suit white sneakers and fresh but he may need some help from a more experienced person at the club just to reign in some control and decision making. All a bit amateurish of late. And yes players can do better to possibly help things but they have excuses to be fair.
Two home games....aussie teams struggle in NZ thats always a huge help to us. We need a win.
11 games in is hardly a "sugar hit" especially since Temple has been with the team well before the season started. When you have a restricted squad size and a large number of tyhe squad are either injured or struck with illness then of course there is going to be some impact on performace. You spend all week training for plan A and maybe plan B and then a day beforehand that plan gets thrown out the window, logically that's going to have an impact.
Since the early sugar hit one player has walked out of the club, many players are under performing, body language from imports not great and coach won't take any responsibility and looks for masking excuses and deflections by blaming ref decisions.
You can get away in the womens a-league for being a bit erratic and messy in your approach due to the standard of the league but at some point you need to get things right and straight if you want to win titles.
Look i hope things turn around but what i've seen lately i believe is a real cause for concern.
I don't buy the statements " well its better than last year"...whilst that may end u true that shouldnt be a marker...they were atrocious and seasons that should be deleted from the archives due to horrendous coaching and player recruitment. If we want to be a winning and succesful club we must set our sights and expectations higher and not make comparisons from the past. I for on won't be happy with a poor finish to the season.....i want to win this.
Since the early sugar hit one player has walked out of the club, many players are under performing, body language from imports not great and coach won't take any responsibility and looks for masking excuses and deflections by blaming ref decisions.
You can get away in the womens a-league for being a bit erratic and messy in your approach due to the standard of the league but at some point you need to get things right and straight if you want to win titles.
Look i hope things turn around but what i've seen lately i believe is a real cause for concern.
I don't buy the statements " well its better than last year"...whilst that may end u true that shouldnt be a marker...they were atrocious and seasons that should be deleted from the archives due to horrendous coaching and player recruitment. If we want to be a winning and succesful club we must set our sights and expectations higher and not make comparisons from the past. I for on won't be happy with a poor finish to the season.....i want to win this.
setting the marker of success at just winning the league is a very tough ask, especially given the first two seasons. All teams would want to win the league, but a successful season has to start with improvement over the last two, so finishing mid to top of the table is a massive improvement and a success. Better performances, being competitive in every game - all markers of success. Winning the league shouldnt be the sole marker of success, more of a result of a successful season.
disagree as you are using previous disasters as a comparison point. Of course there will be improvement but improvement and success are distinctly two different thigs. That why businesses fail because they see improvement as success when really the evaluations are incorrect and behind appropiate key markers. Same with football clubs although little accountability in a-league with no relegation or consequence for poor performance or result. Thats the danger really, no one really panics or strives for better due to the lack of fear. Mediocrity will end you over time.
Yes we had some good wins at the start but in recent weeks its been a shambolic mess from the dug out to the pitch..starting a few weeks ago with pre meditated subs that cost us the game and most recently players playing multiple positions through the 90. Its stuff you'll see in a saturday mens over35 league players playing here there everywhere.
Just want to see some some better organisation, approach to games and during games and some honest reflection and evaluation from staff. This league is winnable the standard is the worst its ever been. This is our chance. Confidence and trust in your playing role along with winning games is powerful...
I don't think anyone (except maybe SN) expect this team to win the league. I would have thought at season start a top six finish would be a pass mark. And if we want to have any impact in the finals series then a top four finish is essential to getting home finals games. With early season form a top four finish has looked a possibility. For that to happen we do need to turn our away form around. There is no doubt losing Wisnewski, VDM and Knott, has had an impact. And recent sickness issues has not helped with consistent selections. But next two games are going to be tough. CCM and Mel City away. We could well be outside the top six after those two matches. Paul Temple was right when he said our issue is putting together a 90min performance. Like on the weekend, we played well for 25 or 30min and looked terrific, but couldn't maintain that level and fell apart particularly once player tired and struggling to chase the game. That seems to have been the pattern away from home. I really hope that Taylors injury is not serious. She has been terrific at CDM, and is the heartbeat of this team. Foster did ok there at recycling the ball, but wasn't particularly progressive with her passes. That will come with time in that position. Actually thought Lake was better there when she shifted forward after Foster went off. For me. Temple's system using inverted full backs. We give away so much space on the flanks. Means our wingers need to track back better to cover at times. Which is difficult when we get caught out to oppositions quick transitions. A scrambling Barry has saved us on numerous occasions, but I feel other teams are starting to exploit us in these area's. That's exactly where Brisbane's two goals came from on the weekend. I don't think you can blame Davidson. I think she's actually been one of the more consistent performing imports. She's just playing the way she has been instructed, and was obviously struggling this weekend after being sick mid week.
I get that this is a fan forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion but in my view some of the negative comments show a lack of perspective and maybe a willingness to try and understand the challenges that the squad faces. For example yesterday's selection was severely impacted by Kate Taylor's injury and illness. Main and Elliot were unavailable and I understand that although Davidson played she was also affected. It was obvious from the half time pictures that she was really struggling. Previous weeks selections have also been impacted by injuries and illness and disruption through the international window. I'm not sure how the manager is supposed to maintain a settled line up through all of that.
Yesterday we had a really good period for 25 minutes of the first half where we played some terrific football. Much of that came down our right hand side and Cox, Longo, Fraser, Speckmaier and Davidson were all prominent in that period. If we had scored a second during that period I doubt Brisbane would have come back. We conceded in unfortunate circumstances and the side seemed to lose confidence as a result. I agree that we were below par in the second spell but we still created opportunities which could have changed the result.
It's worth noting that away sides have one about 1 in 4 games in this league. The games we have lost have all been by a single goal and with an ounce of luck (and better finishing) we could have won all 4.
We've lost 3 of the original squad. We're 4th on the table. Although we are lacking consistency and a real 90 minute performance we are playing some really attractive football and creating a really good impression even with some of the harsh Aussie critics. All in all a lot to be positive about after 11 games.
If Davidson wasnt 100% , there was no reason for her to be out there. Foster could have played full back, Jaber and Whinham were available .
I get that this is a fan forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion but in my view some of the negative comments show a lack of perspective and maybe a willingness to try and understand the challenges that the squad faces. For example yesterday's selection was severely impacted by Kate Taylor's injury and illness. Main and Elliot were unavailable and I understand that although Davidson played she was also affected. It was obvious from the half time pictures that she was really struggling. Previous weeks selections have also been impacted by injuries and illness and disruption through the international window. I'm not sure how the manager is supposed to maintain a settled line up through all of that.
Yesterday we had a really good period for 25 minutes of the first half where we played some terrific football. Much of that came down our right hand side and Cox, Longo, Fraser, Speckmaier and Davidson were all prominent in that period. If we had scored a second during that period I doubt Brisbane would have come back. We conceded in unfortunate circumstances and the side seemed to lose confidence as a result. I agree that we were below par in the second spell but we still created opportunities which could have changed the result.
It's worth noting that away sides have one about 1 in 4 games in this league. The games we have lost have all been by a single goal and with an ounce of luck (and better finishing) we could have won all 4.
We've lost 3 of the original squad. We're 4th on the table. Although we are lacking consistency and a real 90 minute performance we are playing some really attractive football and creating a really good impression even with some of the harsh Aussie critics. All in all a lot to be positive about after 11 games.
If Davidson wasnt 100% , there was no reason for her to be out there. Foster could have played full back, Jaber and Whinham were available .
With Taylor out. Who would have played CDM if Foster was at full back though. CDM is the position we lack depth now. Wisnewski and Knott were both capable cover, but now we are into make shift options there.
Edit. Perhaps they need to back Brazendale. She was picked in the team and is as far as I understand is a CDM.
I, for one, am pleased that you are not incharge of the team or the club. there'd be mid season sackings every year.
Happens all around the world. And if i was i wouldn't employ you Prof...i dont do mediocrity. I'm results and success driven. A bit of accountability and critiquing in your life mate doesnt hurt..
I'm not calling for a sacking here...not sure where i've said sack someone? But if we had a football chairman or a sporting director it would be a good idea just to seek out where Temple is heading with his approaches to games and in play decision making. You dont see the mens coach playing rufer cm, rw, stiker or left back...all in one game. Gees womens team get a couple of non availiabilities and all the excuses comes out.
People now saying after a couple of bad results they'd be happy with a top 6 finish? classic. Questions should be asked where the hell did it go wrong if thats the case. This is the womens a-league its not top shelf....its countdown wine standards.
If we get our ducks back in a row i'm sure we will be playing finals football and in that format you are a chance...BUT Temple needs to work out what he's doing first....dont go blaming a referee decision like last game it shouldve been 6-1 down at that stage. Thats a worry for me.
Temple wasnt blaming the ref doe the loss - he simply made a point about a clear cut error made by the referee and tyhat the women's game should have some kind of VAR. He was very much in the camp of we should have been more ruthless.
You're a funny one SN, one minute you're saying "wionning the league in the only success" but the next your expecting improvement and growth then to follow that up you're telling those who see that as success as accepting mediocrity. Guess you can't please everyone huh?
if you win a title or trophy that's clear and obvious development and growth. Winning a game here and there because last coach/team was shark doesn't assign you to progress it can be blurred someone. We should be demanding we in every week...can accept the odd losss from time to time because as we know in football you can be unlucky at times but as long as the performance was there and the details were right you can cop that.
But seeing a dysfunctional team picking up odd win here and there....is not progress. Are we a mess? yip i believe the last month definitely red flags. But people are ok with it all....remember start of season has ticked the boxes for some people. Be interesting to see how we finish and how people some it all up. As i keep saying this is womens a-league you dont have to be great every week to win games but you have to have some organisation and some consistency in your approach....players need it the most.
