WPW SF2 vs Brisbane Roar | Sun 10 May | 2:00pm | Porirua Park / SS2 & Sky Open

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12 days ago
I hope Rob Morrison and some of the other Welnix group made it to the game. It would have been a nice positive reward for all the effort and $$$ they have poured into the club over the years.
 I think as well as having the best fans in the AL we also have the best owners. They have supported the club for many years often for very little reward.
Days like Sunday are special. This is probably what Robs brother Lloyd had in mind when he pushed to save the club. Shame he didnt get to experiance it. If Welnix hadnt stepped in i dont think the club would exist.
So now we have our first grand final. Hopefully we dont have to wait 19 years for the next one.
Thanks Welnix.
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12 days ago
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Kia ora whānau

Check out Seven Sharp tonight as they are doing a feature on the game yesterday, and we had a reporter and camera operator follow me and my whānau for the day building up to the game.
Enjoyed that. Rare I watch 7sharp but  when the preview mentioned a footy mad family, I was intrigued! Glad you all had a great day of it
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11 days ago
austin111 wrote:
I hope Rob Morrison and some of the other Welnix group made it to the game. It would have been a nice positive reward for all the effort and $$$ they have poured into the club over the years.
I think as well as having the best fans in the AL we also have the best owners. They have supported the club for many years often for very little reward.
Days like Sunday are special. This is probably what Robs brother Lloyd had in mind when he pushed to save the club. Shame he didnt get to experiance it. If Welnix hadnt stepped in i dont think the club would exist.
So now we have our first grand final. Hopefully we dont have to wait 19 years for the next one.
Thanks Welnix.
200% Yet some on here just rubbish them and their input and for some ridiculous reason seem to think the Phoenix have no ambition to win anything, and the whole club accepts mediocrity. Which if people bothered to speak to the people involved just isnt the case.
Rob goes to many games as does Henry and some of the others.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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11 days ago
The atmosphere,  emotions  involved in this game is what it is about. The roller coaster of a game, you could say we were the 22th player so to speak. The way the players conducted themselves after the game showed how much it meant to them, not just the win but the whole thing. Those there have witnessed and have been part of something special. The owners made no secret of sorting out this team and it has worked. Full credit. I'm really hoping we can keep this whole squad together for next season too. The players must know that they are each part of something special. It's not all about money or jumping on at an already big club. Thus is about creating something from scratch and making it successful.  Mission accomplished.  Should they actually nail City, it would be the Cherry on top. 
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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11 days ago
I thought this link summed up the day and following women's sport really well https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360998573/hear-us-roar-time-its-not-echo-female-uprising

Hear us Roar - this time it’s not an echo but a female uprising

When the Phoenix run out for their A-League semifinal second leg against Brisbane Roar in Porirua today, it will be as much cultural revolution as it is football.

To sell out the 6000-seat stadium for a week-in-week-out women’s competition game is unheard of. It is a semifinal but a club match, not an international.

And it is more than three times their largest attendance at Porirua Park, and a record “by far” for a stand-alone Phoenix women’s home game.

Such magic might invoke a rousing rendition of the 1970s Helen Reddy feminist anthem I Am Woman, were it not for the line “hear me roar”, Brisbane might like that.

Whatever, it’s a watershed moment for women’s sport, senior lecturer at Auckland University of Technology Mel Johnston tells the Sunday Star-Times.

“Just being there and having a team like the Phoenix is inspirational,” she says.

“It’s so inclusive, family-friendly, welcoming - there's a different kind of atmosphere because it's been a hard-won battle to get a women's team.”

Women’s sport should be judged on its own strengths, rather than as an adjunct to the men’s game with its long traditions and big head start, she argues.

Women’s sport has long been measured against men, in a myopic way: the crowds aren’t as big, and the players not as fast. But how about the unexamined ways in which women’s sport tops men’s?

Women’s football events foster community, accessibility, and lower disruption. Men’s games show intense rivalry and higher anti‑social behaviour.

Success in women's sport is currently measured by growth, engagement, and the type of fan, rather than just matching the men's attendance record.

“We need to be comparing the women's game with the women's game as opposed to the women's game with the men's game,” she says.

It’s not just about bums on seats, but a whole range of varied experiences that appeal to a different type of sports fan - to women and children, who can feel out of place in a more aggressive male-dominated crowd.

“It's the experience, the atmosphere and all that kind of thing, more than just the core sporting product. The men's game and women's game are so different,” she says.

“Generally, a crowd within a women's sport event is more family-friendly and it's generally more uplifting, focusing on empowerment, celebration and so forth, which can be slightly different from men's events.

“If officials do it right like the Phoenix are, having women play in smaller stadiums, where they’re closer to the fans … it’s just a different atmosphere.

“Research shows that the level of anti-social behaviour and disruption is a lot less at women's sport events than it is at men's, so that can all be part of it as well.”

In the English Premier League, the difference is even more stark. At White Hart Lane for Spurs against West Ham, the crowd booed everything that moved.

Even Kyle Walker - an England international playing for Spurs - was not spared by his home crowd.

The stadium erupted in vitriol when a West Ham replacement came on. “He used to play for Arsenal,” a Spurs fan explained.

Across London in the women’s EPL it is the opposite.

Women’s champions Chelsea play in a cheerful atmosphere at Kingsmeadow - capacity 4850, tickets affordable. Sam Kerr the world superstar is so close fans can interact with her.

“That in general, is what we're seeing from a global perspective,” Johnston says.

“Men's sport events have been around for longer, with more investment in it. So, there's a lot of team loyalty for better or worse, tradition, a lot of club identity and history.

“So they come to a game with a lot of rivalries, which can also be that win-at-all-costs kind of culture, tribalness, intensity.”

Women’s sport doesn’t have that. They’re smaller, more flexible, athletes can engage with fans, families feel safe to attend.

New Zealand hosting the women's Rugby World Cup and winning had brought women's sport into the spotlight Johnston said, turning players into national figures, as is the case with the Black Fern Sevens. Unlike the Phoenix, those sides and netball's Silver Ferns are national teams.

Johnston wasn’t totally opposed to double headers, in which a women’s game is followed by a men’s game, or vice versa.

In the short-term it’s a great visibility tool to "piggyback" off the men's crowd. Longer term, the women's game needs to be a standalone product with its own "storytelling" and dedicated fan base, not one that is just waiting for the men's game to start.

Coach Bev Priestman’s team lost 2-1 to the Roar in leg one, leaving them needing a two-goal winning margin on Sunday to advance to their first grand final.

A one-goal margin to the hosts after extra time would mean a penalty shootout.

Women’s sport can be seen as the new “community sport", echoing the way it was for club and provincial sides before money and franchises took the players away to flash hotels.

“Women's sport has a different fan, so they need to be … marketed to differently,” she says.

In Australia, women’s AFL is taking off, with sellout crowds. Johnston credits the administrators with seeing the difference between what the genders seek from watching sport.

“They’ve been able to be more adaptable, as opposed to saying ‘this is how it's always been’.”

They have been wise to the changing expectations of fans, and what people want when they watch sport. “There’s a whole range of different groups of people and segments of people who attend these games.”

New Zealand has never been short of world-class sportswomen: Dame Lisa Carrington, Dame Lydia Ko, the power and passion of Portia Woodman-Wickliffe, and Olympic champion Dame Valerie Adams.

But there’s a shift now in how the value of sport is delivered and consumed - moving away from rigid, competitive traditions toward community-centric, social experiences.

It’s not all roses in the women’s sports garden. According to Sport NZ, the number of physical activities young women participate in drops by 29% starting at age 15, compared to only an 18% drop for young men.

By 17, the top three activities for young women are walking, running, and workouts. They aren't leaving sport; they are leaving "the system" (clubs and scheduled matches) for self-driven, flexible activities.

On the plus side, coverage of women’s sport in NZ news media jumped from 15% in 2020 to 27% in 2024/25.

Now local clubs can market themselves to a family-oriented audience rather than just the more “gidday mate” blokey traditional fan.

And now, back to the game: let the revolution begin, but not with a Roar. 
I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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11 days ago
Noah4thenix wrote:
 Elbo wrote:
Terrible game quality wise.
City will be very relaxed watching this
God you're miserable. We just came back from being 2-1 down on aggregate to make our first ever GF and all you have to say it what a terrible game :/
To be fair though Elbo could just be applying a heavy dose of anti-jinx.
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11 days ago
Yakcall wrote:
I thought this link summed up the day and following women's sport really well https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/360998573/hear-us-roar-time-its-not-echo-female-uprising

Hear us Roar - this time it’s not an echo but a female uprising

When the Phoenix run out for their A-League semifinal second leg against Brisbane Roar in Porirua today, it will be as much cultural revolution as it is football.

To sell out the 6000-seat stadium for a week-in-week-out women’s competition game is unheard of. It is a semifinal but a club match, not an international.

And it is more than three times their largest attendance at Porirua Park, and a record “by far” for a stand-alone Phoenix women’s home game.

Such magic might invoke a rousing rendition of the 1970s Helen Reddy feminist anthem I Am Woman, were it not for the line “hear me roar”, Brisbane might like that.

Whatever, it’s a watershed moment for women’s sport, senior lecturer at Auckland University of Technology Mel Johnston tells the Sunday Star-Times.

“Just being there and having a team like the Phoenix is inspirational,” she says.

“It’s so inclusive, family-friendly, welcoming - there's a different kind of atmosphere because it's been a hard-won battle to get a women's team.”

Women’s sport should be judged on its own strengths, rather than as an adjunct to the men’s game with its long traditions and big head start, she argues.

Women’s sport has long been measured against men, in a myopic way: the crowds aren’t as big, and the players not as fast. But how about the unexamined ways in which women’s sport tops men’s?

Women’s football events foster community, accessibility, and lower disruption. Men’s games show intense rivalry and higher anti‑social behaviour.

Success in women's sport is currently measured by growth, engagement, and the type of fan, rather than just matching the men's attendance record.

“We need to be comparing the women's game with the women's game as opposed to the women's game with the men's game,” she says.

It’s not just about bums on seats, but a whole range of varied experiences that appeal to a different type of sports fan - to women and children, who can feel out of place in a more aggressive male-dominated crowd.

“It's the experience, the atmosphere and all that kind of thing, more than just the core sporting product. The men's game and women's game are so different,” she says.

“Generally, a crowd within a women's sport event is more family-friendly and it's generally more uplifting, focusing on empowerment, celebration and so forth, which can be slightly different from men's events.

“If officials do it right like the Phoenix are, having women play in smaller stadiums, where they’re closer to the fans … it’s just a different atmosphere.

“Research shows that the level of anti-social behaviour and disruption is a lot less at women's sport events than it is at men's, so that can all be part of it as well.”

In the English Premier League, the difference is even more stark. At White Hart Lane for Spurs against West Ham, the crowd booed everything that moved.

Even Kyle Walker - an England international playing for Spurs - was not spared by his home crowd.

The stadium erupted in vitriol when a West Ham replacement came on. “He used to play for Arsenal,” a Spurs fan explained.

Across London in the women’s EPL it is the opposite.

Women’s champions Chelsea play in a cheerful atmosphere at Kingsmeadow - capacity 4850, tickets affordable. Sam Kerr the world superstar is so close fans can interact with her.

“That in general, is what we're seeing from a global perspective,” Johnston says.

“Men's sport events have been around for longer, with more investment in it. So, there's a lot of team loyalty for better or worse, tradition, a lot of club identity and history.

“So they come to a game with a lot of rivalries, which can also be that win-at-all-costs kind of culture, tribalness, intensity.”

Women’s sport doesn’t have that. They’re smaller, more flexible, athletes can engage with fans, families feel safe to attend.

New Zealand hosting the women's Rugby World Cup and winning had brought women's sport into the spotlight Johnston said, turning players into national figures, as is the case with the Black Fern Sevens. Unlike the Phoenix, those sides and netball's Silver Ferns are national teams.

Johnston wasn’t totally opposed to double headers, in which a women’s game is followed by a men’s game, or vice versa.

In the short-term it’s a great visibility tool to "piggyback" off the men's crowd. Longer term, the women's game needs to be a standalone product with its own "storytelling" and dedicated fan base, not one that is just waiting for the men's game to start.

Coach Bev Priestman’s team lost 2-1 to the Roar in leg one, leaving them needing a two-goal winning margin on Sunday to advance to their first grand final.

A one-goal margin to the hosts after extra time would mean a penalty shootout.

Women’s sport can be seen as the new “community sport", echoing the way it was for club and provincial sides before money and franchises took the players away to flash hotels.

“Women's sport has a different fan, so they need to be … marketed to differently,” she says.

In Australia, women’s AFL is taking off, with sellout crowds. Johnston credits the administrators with seeing the difference between what the genders seek from watching sport.

“They’ve been able to be more adaptable, as opposed to saying ‘this is how it's always been’.”

They have been wise to the changing expectations of fans, and what people want when they watch sport. “There’s a whole range of different groups of people and segments of people who attend these games.”

New Zealand has never been short of world-class sportswomen: Dame Lisa Carrington, Dame Lydia Ko, the power and passion of Portia Woodman-Wickliffe, and Olympic champion Dame Valerie Adams.

But there’s a shift now in how the value of sport is delivered and consumed - moving away from rigid, competitive traditions toward community-centric, social experiences.

It’s not all roses in the women’s sports garden. According to Sport NZ, the number of physical activities young women participate in drops by 29% starting at age 15, compared to only an 18% drop for young men.

By 17, the top three activities for young women are walking, running, and workouts. They aren't leaving sport; they are leaving "the system" (clubs and scheduled matches) for self-driven, flexible activities.

On the plus side, coverage of women’s sport in NZ news media jumped from 15% in 2020 to 27% in 2024/25.

Now local clubs can market themselves to a family-oriented audience rather than just the more “gidday mate” blokey traditional fan.

And now, back to the game: let the revolution begin, but not with a Roar. 
This is spot on! For all those reasons, the Wahinix are my favourite team (with the men's team close second). We're so lucky Welnix had the vision and courage to get them going - best move they've ever made (after their similar vision and courage in taking over from Terry). Respect!
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The AFL are smart they play the womens comp as basically a short spring comp.  Mid August to end of November.

There is some overlap with mens AFL (Aug-Sept) but then post the mens Grand Final, the womens comp has clear air Sept-end of November. Cricket season (BBL) is only just starting.

Spend a few years in Melbs and you realise the diehard AFL fan, gets all grumpy with no Aussie Rules to watch over the summer months. The off season to the die hards seems to last forever. So they love it that they now get a few extra months footy with the womens comp, plus it's mostly played around the old suburban VFL grounds for a touch of nostaglia.
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coochiee wrote:
The AFL are smart they play the womens comp as basically a short spring comp.  Mid August to end of November.

There is some overlap with mens AFL (Aug-Sept) but then post the mens Grand Final, the womens comp has clear air Sept-end of November. Cricket season (BBL) is only just starting.

Spend a few years in Melbs and you realise the diehard AFL fan, gets all grumpy with no Aussie Rules to watch over the summer months. The off season to the die hards seems to last forever. So they love it that they now get a few extra months footy with the womens comp, plus it's mostly played around the old suburban VFL grounds for a touch of nostaglia.
The AFL butchered it. They went too hard too early. Too many teams to start with. They should play with a smaller ball on a smaller field. Some of the scores they put up are an embarrassment considering it’s a sport where you literally get points for missing. The standard is appalling. A lot of the players look like they’ve barely played the game and that’s because a lot of them have barely played the game, they recruited athletes from a number of sports. They simply can’t kick the ball long enough to make an entertaining game on such a large field.

The aflw is just awful. Slow, boring, unprofessional and low scoring. And whenever there is a high scoring team, it's because there was a blowout game which is just as bad. They expanded way too quickly and the talent pool is way too diluted. For every good aflw player there's 10 subpar ones. Half of the talent didn't even play Aussie rules beforehand and are code hoppers from other sports. It's only a 10 round season but they have 18 teams so you don't even play everyone in a season.

NRLW runs circles around it. There's less teams, plenty of talent and they score just as much as the men do. Plenty of tight games and constant action going on. It's entertaining and feels like a proper professional league.

The AFLW will be great in a decade or two but it’s a top down process where they are using the professional game to seed larger junior and amateur seniors competitions. That’s not ideal, you want a stronger junior and amateur base than what they started with.
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11 days ago
100% agree with the Post article. The Nix womens team and womens football in general have been a breath of fresh air. I got hooked after watching the WWC in NZ. It was a great watch.
I must admit after watching the mens game for decades i am now feeling somewhat jaded. There is so much money, so much cynicism in the mens pro club game internationally. Im sick of watching millionares playing for clubs owned by billionaires who are only at the club because of the money and would move to the neighbouring club if they paid more money.
Im also sick of the macho posturing, the rolling on the ground, the getting in the face of the ref.
In contrast the women just get on with it. In the semi we were regularly getting clattered by their players. But they just got up. When they get interviewed the women come across as fresh and honest and articulate. They dont sound like they have been mega media trained into dullness.
I wasnt at the semi game unfortunately but lots of my friends who went said it was one of their best ever live sports experiance.
So long live the womens game. 
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