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2 Things. Reserve team not on a 14 match winning streak, a non loss streak true, but not winning streak. Secondly, remembering these reserves are in essentially a 4th tier competition in PDL, as opposed to a 2nd tier reserves. Don't get me wrong they are very well drilled, but remembering Uni struggled in their first season up after DOMINATING Div 1 the year before...

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Div 1. Could Waimak be the spoilers in the title chase? Waimak have games with top three teams, they play Nomads this coming Saturday then Selwyn the weekend after and FC20s last game out on the turf.

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Midway into 1st half and no score in 1/4 final of Stadium Cars English Cup between Cashmere Technical and Western.

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Scrappy goal to Cashmere Technical to lead after 33 mins against Western in Stadium Cars English Cup 1/4 Final.

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Second half underway in Stadium Cars English Cup and Cashmere Technical still Western 1 - 0.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Scrappy goal to Cashmere Technical to lead after 33 mins against Western in Stadium Cars English Cup 1/4 Final.

It was a truly unfortunate own goal. 

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Liam Oxley doubles Cashmere Technical's lead over Western in the Stadium Cars English Cup 1/4 Final. Around 15 to play.

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Scottie Rd wrote:

Div 1. Could Waimak be the spoilers in the title chase? Waimak have games with top three teams, they play Nomads this coming Saturday then Selwyn the weekend after and FC20s last game out on the turf.

Parklands are more than capable of beating any of top three sides. 

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Cashmere Technical first name to advance into the semi-finals of the Stadium Cars English Cup after defeating Western 2 - 0.

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froggit wrote:
Scottie Rd wrote:

Div 1. Could Waimak be the spoilers in the title chase? Waimak have games with top three teams, they play Nomads this coming Saturday then Selwyn the weekend after and FC20s last game out on the turf.

Parklands are more than capable of beating any of top three sides. 

Yes they have done so already this season v FC20 by 4 -2. Not mentioned above as they have played the 3 games v FC in the league.

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gings wrote:
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VimFuego wrote:

Odds on? Still 6 games to go and they still have to play Halswell so it's still anyone's game. Goal difference is pretty close too, I wonder if it could come down to that like it has before. Or worse, how Nomads were even on points and goal difference in last place and got relegated as it then came down to goals scored!

Maybe a good time to see what people's  thoughts are on a ten team top league with two rounds the 3 sides fighting for promotion all offer something different. They have shown they can compete in cup games 




I dont think 10 team league is a bad idea, I'd rather see a 8 team qualifying league replace div 1.

I also don't think its a 2 horse race for relegation, western are pretty close to it too.....

Agree about may be better to see a 8 team qualifying league made up of teams that what to play in the MPL so would open the door for the likes of Hurunui Rangers and Burwood etc.

If the MPL was increased to 10 teams or 25% are there enough quality player for this to happen - also were do the extra teams come from - 1 from Mainland and 1 from Nelson Bays/Marlborough?

Any changes would normally take place two seasons out. 

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We do need a better competition for the top clubs in the Mainland region no matter what [MPL or Div 1] division a clubs top team is playing in.

The fact that CTFC Turtles and a Bays team are in Div 1 makes that comp a mix match from one week to the other. 

Sides for both CTFC and Bays could be stacked depending on what playing numbers or who gets picked up by these two clubs reserves or Mpl teams from week to week.  

Could say Waimak and Parklands be closer to the top 3 in Div 1? sure you have to beat the rest in your league over a season to win a division.

I have seen it in previous seasons that a player coming back from injury and playing in the MPL has suited up for a div1 team for a game or two.

The thought of a South Island league of any sort is dead imo.

Football South have a couple of clubs that could compete in DunedinTech and Mosgiel but Caversham are all but done for as a viable club. Sure they have one good team but that is all and not much else [playing numbers or $$] to hang a clubs growth on. 

Therefore if the powers that be in the Mainland office are wanting to grow the game other than in numbers of first kick kids they will have to look in the region.

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Saturday at Garrick Park

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And in Div 1 news - Ferrymead went running scared after the beating FC gave them and have defaulted against Selwyn this week.  

Very disappointing to see a team at that level defaulting games.

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Disappointing to hear selwyn v bays div 1 game is off as bays can't field a team. More reason why bays and tech should not be in that league. Neither side offer the league anything. In a league that may come down to goal difference it will be interesting to see the outcome from mainland.  Also is there any reason Hornby are playing at avonhead park against FC. 

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Good fodder for a proper Football Journo.

Thanks Ferrymead Bays for making a farce of football in this region.

How many other teams do they have playing in grades not including MPL.

What about some reserve team players doing an extra few minutes to help the club out.

Time Mainland got some big footballs and got heavy handed.

You can't play this weekend then don't turn up again and we wipe all your games for the season. 

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froggit wrote:

Disappointing to hear selwyn v bays div 1 game is off as bays can't field a team. More reason why bays and tech should not be in that league. Neither side offer the league anything. In a league that may come down to goal difference it will be interesting to see the outcome from mainland.  Also is there any reason Hornby are playing at avonhead park against FC. 

Surely the outcome will be recorded as: Selwyn 3 (own goal 3)  Ferrymead Bays 0 as per any other default. 

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AllWhites82 wrote:
froggit wrote:

Disappointing to hear selwyn v bays div 1 game is off as bays can't field a team. More reason why bays and tech should not be in that league. Neither side offer the league anything. In a league that may come down to goal difference it will be interesting to see the outcome from mainland.  Also is there any reason Hornby are playing at avonhead park against FC. 

Surely the outcome will be recorded as: Selwyn 3 (own goal 3)  Ferrymead Bays 0 as per any other default. 

Wouldn't that be a massive disadvantage to Selwyn? The league being decided on goal difference is a very big possibility. Mainland have to make a statement here and remove Bays from the league and record either all games or the final round of matches as 3-0 losses. Absolutely pathetic how this can happen in what is basically a qualifying league. I bet Hurunui or Burwood would manage to field teams for all 21 games, they probably would perform better than both Turtles and Bays. Mainland are in a sticky situation here and i hope this doesn't have a part to play in terms of the promotion race. FC are the big winners out of this if it stays as 3-0 

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AllWhites82 wrote:
froggit wrote:

Disappointing to hear selwyn v bays div 1 game is off as bays can't field a team. More reason why bays and tech should not be in that league. Neither side offer the league anything. In a league that may come down to goal difference it will be interesting to see the outcome from mainland.  Also is there any reason Hornby are playing at avonhead park against FC. 

Surely the outcome will be recorded as: Selwyn 3 (own goal 3)  Ferrymead Bays 0 as per any other default. 

Yep, though I would imagine there might have been a few more going past them.

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Scottie Rd wrote:

Good fodder for a proper Football Journo.

Thanks Ferrymead Bays for making a farce of football in this region.

How many other teams do they have playing in grades not including MPL.

What about some reserve team players doing an extra few minutes to help the club out.

Time Mainland got some big footballs and got heavy handed.

You can't play this weekend then don't turn up again and we wipe all your games for the season. 

Not going to happen Scottie Rd - kicking a team out for their 1st default.

Here are Mainland's Rules For A Deault:

1.Defaults

1.1 Notification of a teams intended Default must be made in writing to the Competitions Manager or DMG no later than 48 hours prior to a start of the match. A team shall not be fined should they adhere to this clause.

1.2 For the sake of clarity any notification of a team's intended Default made inside 48 hours prior to the start of the match shall result in the team being fined as per the Fines and Fees Schedule.

1.3 A Defaulted match, whether or not notification was given pursuant to clause 8.1 shall be recorded as a 3 (three) - 0 (nil) win to the non-defaulting team.

1.4 A team which Defaults either two (2) matches in succession or a total of three (3) matches in the season may be disqualified from the League and Competition at the discretion of the Competitions Manager, DMG or Mainland Football.

1.5 A team which Defaults a cup match or championship match shall receive a fine pursuant to the Fines and Fees Schedule and the match shall be awarded as win to the non defaulting team. The Competitions Manager and the DMG shall also have the discretion of excluding the Defaulting team from the following seasons Cup competition.

  1. Fines for Defaults are as follows:
    1. Premier Football League: fine of $2,000.00;
    2. Senior Competition Default: fine of $100.00; and
    3. Juniors Competitions Default: under $100.00 at the operation manager’s discretion

Any fines with respect to a Default of a Mainland Premier League or Women’s Premier League Match shall be as per the Coach’s hand book from time to time.

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Nomad Gonad wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:
froggit wrote:

Disappointing to hear selwyn v bays div 1 game is off as bays can't field a team. More reason why bays and tech should not be in that league. Neither side offer the league anything. In a league that may come down to goal difference it will be interesting to see the outcome from mainland.  Also is there any reason Hornby are playing at avonhead park against FC. 

Surely the outcome will be recorded as: Selwyn 3 (own goal 3)  Ferrymead Bays 0 as per any other default. 

Wouldn't that be a massive disadvantage to Selwyn? The league being decided on goal difference is a very big possibility. Mainland have to make a statement here and remove Bays from the league and record either all games or the final round of matches as 3-0 losses. Absolutely pathetic how this can happen in what is basically a qualifying league. I bet Hurunui or Burwood would manage to field teams for all 21 games, they probably would perform better than both Turtles and Bays. Mainland are in a sticky situation here and i hope this doesn't have a part to play in terms of the promotion race. FC are the big winners out of this if it stays as 3-0 

See my post which I have posted the Mainland Rules around Defaults so it will be a 3 - 0 result cannot be any other outcome.

I think you will find that a 3 - 0 result is standard for any default around the country if not the world. 

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You are spot on AllWhites82, the 3-0 score is standard procedure across the world. Maybe the governing body could have shown some sense and put the game at a later date? This would stop all arguments. Anyhow, the league shouldn't come down to goal difference. Each club should look after their own results and the best team will get promoted. If all teams are that close then maybe an expansion of the MPL is in order?
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AllWhites82 wrote:
Nomad Gonad wrote:
AllWhites82 wrote:
froggit wrote:

Disappointing to hear selwyn v bays div 1 game is off as bays can't field a team. More reason why bays and tech should not be in that league. Neither side offer the league anything. In a league that may come down to goal difference it will be interesting to see the outcome from mainland.  Also is there any reason Hornby are playing at avonhead park against FC. 

Surely the outcome will be recorded as: Selwyn 3 (own goal 3)  Ferrymead Bays 0 as per any other default. 

Wouldn't that be a massive disadvantage to Selwyn? The league being decided on goal difference is a very big possibility. Mainland have to make a statement here and remove Bays from the league and record either all games or the final round of matches as 3-0 losses. Absolutely pathetic how this can happen in what is basically a qualifying league. I bet Hurunui or Burwood would manage to field teams for all 21 games, they probably would perform better than both Turtles and Bays. Mainland are in a sticky situation here and i hope this doesn't have a part to play in terms of the promotion race. FC are the big winners out of this if it stays as 3-0 

See my post which I have posted the Mainland Rules around Defaults so it will be a 3 - 0 result cannot be any other outcome.

I think you will find that a 3 - 0 result is standard for any default around the country if not the world. 

Why not defer game? Mainland has the power to reschedule the nomads game because of cup game. Why not insists it is played at another time. Was Selwyn even asked? Even if not critical for points, bit of courtesy would have been sporting!

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Can u hear the violin? It doesn't look like Waimak will do any favours for Selwyn or Fc tommorow as I hear they are struggling to get 11 to play Nomads.

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Evens out  the fact Nomads  v Selwyn is standalone fixture  on the 15th?

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not sure where this info is coming from. Starting 11 for Waimak is probably better than that which faced Nomads in previous round. Captain suspended after 2 soft yellow cards last week but he didn't start last round either. Waimak youngsters improving every week so expect a decent contest. As for the Ferrymead default, Selwyn might just be grateful for the 3 points as they have been upset by lower teams in the past.

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The lower teams being Waimak this year gaffa?

On a serious note though, the Waimak team are definitely capable of mixing it with the so called big boys, it's the 'lower' teams that have cost them being involved with the chasing pack!

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Chatham Cup

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NZ Women's Cup

Tech 1 - Coastal 4

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AW82 you should have put FC 20 as the home team as it was at Avonhead i believe. Some would say it seems Mainland have a desire for FC to get promoted. Div 1/Qualifying league has become a farce

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Nomad Gonad wrote:

AW82 you should have put FC 20 as the home team as it was at Avonhead i believe. Some would say it seems Mainland have a desire for FC to get promoted. Div 1/Qualifying league has become a farce

Hornby was listed as 'home' team

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Interesting Div 2 table. Halswell won it - so they might end up in div 1 as well. If they dont go up - then its chch united in second.
But I reckon United are going to be dropped from mpl so what then? Next cab off the rank for Div 2 - is Hurunui Rangers.


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Dragoon_nz wrote:

Interesting Div 2 table. Halswell won it - so they might end up in div 1 as well. If they dont go up - then its chch united in second.
But I reckon United are going to be dropped from mpl so what then? Next cab off the rank for Div 2 - is Hurunui Rangers.

I may be wrong but only the winner of the league is able / considered for promotion, if the winner does not go up for any reason then no other team is promoted.   

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I think they have offered it to other teams before AW82.
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Isn't that how Ferrymead Bays got the division 1 spot? Didn't Western win Division 2 the year before and turn Division 1 down?
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experience wrote:
Isn't that how Ferrymead Bays got the division 1 spot? Didn't Western win Division 2 the year before and turn Division 1 down?

Correct.

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as long as FC2011 go up to Prems whatever is ok for D2 promotion. 

Would be good to see Hurunui up there. 

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foal30 wrote:

as long as FC2011 go up to Prems whatever is ok for D2 promotion. 

Would be good to see Hurunui up there. 

You spelt Selwyn wrong :)

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well I suppose  one broken wall isn't too bad considering they could have  did a disco on our pitch , and  Ekow could have followed through with his threat of  pissing on our Pitch . So much hate towards our poor Tech club? don't mind they don't respect Techs coach or club,

It would be good if they didn't disrespect both though, twice Xavier has slagged us/ me in his speech I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though yesterday as I can't understand French which he made he made part of his speech in .

As I've said before on here we will defend our corner, when disrepecteced. 

And when a flag is flown high with the standard that is set you applaud it and try to get there , which is why we have so much respect for Coastal and their Womems team and Gunnie, congrats girls I hope you go all the way. As a club this is where Megan ,Liam ,the team and our club aspire to be. 

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I didn't go to the post-match was there fireworks John?

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