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I need to take a massive dump but our cleaner is still here. What should I do?
I need to take a massive dump but our cleaner is still here. What should I do?
Council refusing to take our recycle bin yesterday as there was something in it that was in the wrong bin - our fault. Not entirely sure which item as there was nothing different to what we usually put in there that gets taken. So as some sort of punishment they leave the whole lot which of course with that weather yesterday meant several things blew across the road and up driveways etc. And now we're left with a full bin so our recycling for the next week will just end up having to go in the general rubbish as no other space for it. So I question whether this hard-line "one wrong item so keep all of it" approach is a better outcome for the environment than say using some common sense and leaving the offending item behind while taking the rest.
Imagine if they had to sort everyone's recycling for them.
Imagine if they had to sort everyone's recycling for them.
it would mean they had ongoing employment - honestly, it just strikes me as a little crap that the customer is expected to fully clean, sort and deliver the recycled goods before the recycling experts will collect it. If you want to get people to do anything it has to be easy. All the councils/government do is make it harder - "you can't recycle this, if we will accept it, it has to be cleaned, perfectly, oh and don't accidently put rubbish in the recycling bin cos we wont take it"
Imagine if they had to sort everyone's recycling for them.
it would mean they had ongoing employment - honestly, it just strikes me as a little crap that the customer is expected to fully clean, sort and deliver the recycled goods before the recycling experts will collect it. If you want to get people to do anything it has to be easy. All the councils/government do is make it harder - "you can't recycle this, if we will accept it, it has to be cleaned, perfectly, oh and don't accidently put rubbish in the recycling bin cos we wont take it"
If you think recycling is important then you want to make it as cost effective as possible - clean and sort your recycling, and follow council (or if you are in Upper Hutt, your private provider) guidelines.
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
I guess it depends on whether you think your rates are being well used in the correct places. Personally I think we pay high enough rates and aren't getting the services that we should be getting. The current excuses provided by our "recycling" providers are just weak. Yeah it might cost more for these companies to employ cleaners or install machines that do it, but it a council or government was serious about it they'd take the responsibility away from people who are clearly apathetic at best towards recycling or find it tiresome to understand all the nuances of what you can and can't recycle.
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
I guess it depends on whether you think your rates are being well used in the correct places. Personally I think we pay high enough rates and aren't getting the services that we should be getting. The current excuses provided by our "recycling" providers are just weak. Yeah it might cost more for these companies to employ cleaners or install machines that do it, but it a council or government was serious about it they'd take the responsibility away from people who are clearly apathetic at best towards recycling or find it tiresome to understand all the nuances of what you can and can't recycle.
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
I guess it depends on whether you think your rates are being well used in the correct places. Personally I think we pay high enough rates and aren't getting the services that we should be getting. The current excuses provided by our "recycling" providers are just weak. Yeah it might cost more for these companies to employ cleaners or install machines that do it, but it a council or government was serious about it they'd take the responsibility away from people who are clearly apathetic at best towards recycling or find it tiresome to understand all the nuances of what you can and can't recycle.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-worlds-recycling-i...
it may not be rocket science but with plastics it requires more though than most care to bother with - who the hell knows what numbered plastics can/cannot be recycled but which council?
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
I guess it depends on whether you think your rates are being well used in the correct places. Personally I think we pay high enough rates and aren't getting the services that we should be getting. The current excuses provided by our "recycling" providers are just weak. Yeah it might cost more for these companies to employ cleaners or install machines that do it, but it a council or government was serious about it they'd take the responsibility away from people who are clearly apathetic at best towards recycling or find it tiresome to understand all the nuances of what you can and can't recycle.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-worlds-recycling-i...
it may not be rocket science but with plastics it requires more though than most care to bother with - who the hell knows what numbered plastics can/cannot be recycled but which council?
https://wellington.govt.nz/services/environment-an...
http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Services/Rubbish-and-r...
https://poriruacity.govt.nz/services/rubbish-and-r...
If in doubt, probably just put it in the bin rather than recycle. You're not screwing it up for everyone else then.
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
I guess it depends on whether you think your rates are being well used in the correct places. Personally I think we pay high enough rates and aren't getting the services that we should be getting. The current excuses provided by our "recycling" providers are just weak. Yeah it might cost more for these companies to employ cleaners or install machines that do it, but it a council or government was serious about it they'd take the responsibility away from people who are clearly apathetic at best towards recycling or find it tiresome to understand all the nuances of what you can and can't recycle.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-worlds-recycling-i...
it may not be rocket science but with plastics it requires more though than most care to bother with - who the hell knows what numbered plastics can/cannot be recycled but which council?
https://wellington.govt.nz/services/environment-an...
http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Services/Rubbish-and-r...
https://poriruacity.govt.nz/services/rubbish-and-r...
If in doubt, probably just put it in the bin rather than recycle.
that bit there is the problem, 3 councils all with different requirements, plus two who have private contractors with their own rules, if in doubt - which a lot of people will be just bin it, screw the planet.
You only need to know your own council though. I'm surprised that people find recycling hard, I assumed everyone did it.
The fact that recycling is "free" (not really free as in we pay for it with our rates rather than per the bag) and rubbish costs is incentive enough I would have thought? My assumption is if we moved the sorting to the end of the supply chain rather than the start it would cost a lot more which means rates increases.
I guess it depends on whether you think your rates are being well used in the correct places. Personally I think we pay high enough rates and aren't getting the services that we should be getting. The current excuses provided by our "recycling" providers are just weak. Yeah it might cost more for these companies to employ cleaners or install machines that do it, but it a council or government was serious about it they'd take the responsibility away from people who are clearly apathetic at best towards recycling or find it tiresome to understand all the nuances of what you can and can't recycle.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-worlds-recycling-i...
it may not be rocket science but with plastics it requires more though than most care to bother with - who the hell knows what numbered plastics can/cannot be recycled but which council?
https://wellington.govt.nz/services/environment-an...
http://www.huttcity.govt.nz/Services/Rubbish-and-r...
https://poriruacity.govt.nz/services/rubbish-and-r...
If in doubt, probably just put it in the bin rather than recycle.
that bit there is the problem, 3 councils all with different requirements, plus two who have private contractors with their own rules, if in doubt - which a lot of people will be just bin it, screw the planet.