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Can anyone confirm he's the 34 year old with 47 caps for South Korea ?
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yip, sure is.  played fc seoul mainly in the k league
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Thanks.

(tries not make eye contact with Da Selekta for failing on the match report front)...
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i'm the one who failed bro - too crook to come out! don't sweat it, i'm sure we can come up with one between the few hundred who were there...
 
how was the game?
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Impacted by the conditions.  It was pretty damn cold. 

We did think of leaning over and stealing the DomPost staffs notes, or asking for a copy but we didn't think they would be keen.
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You could always ask that clown from the Capital Times on his view of the game - oh ... he wasn't there? really? An informed intelligent journo with all the answers on football, he must have had more pressing business - probably working on another piece of fiction.
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haha Capital Times, is that rag still going.
 
At least the General Manager of the Hutt News is a Football fan, he's even been know to coach kids teams. There's sure to be some coverage in our weekly.
 
Anyway back to topic, thought the Korean got shown up in defence a few times last and he didnt look as good going forward as he did in Sundays game. If he's taking up an import spot dont sign him, we need our imports to be head and shoulders above whats avalaible either here or in Oz.
 
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I hope we get an African defender as opposed to him, preferably younger as well.loyalgunner2007-06-23 12:55:35
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Why the fixation on African defenders?
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You've got to remember that these are people who have to settle here to play their best football.  Bringing an African out by himself is far more risky than getting another Brazilian when there are three of his countrymen here.
 
But anyway, back on topic, RB is proving to be a problem position both for the Phoenix and the A-League so if he is any good we'd have to have a serious think.  Korea are a top class side, to play 47 matvhes for them is no mean feat.
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PROAK wrote:
Why the fixation on African defenders?


Not just any old African Defender, one who is really fast and strong, because (I know this is a bit of a stereotype) most brazilian players are extremely good on the ball, but a lot of them are quite small (except for Roberto Carlos) and not a physical presence in defence.

But, as James Dean mentioned, it is risky to bring him out from Africa by himself.

The decision is in Herbert's hands and I hope he makes the right one.
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f**k he had Jonas Salley and he was pretty much straight outta Africa. But I would guess scouting Africa would be extremely difficult, as I doubt leagues (in which we are capable of recruiting from) would have cameras around. This Cleberson sounds alright though :)
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james dean wrote:
But anyway, back on topic, RB is proving to be a problem position both for the Phoenix and the A-League so if he is any good we'd have to have a serious think.  Korea are a top class side, to play 47 matvhes for them is no mean feat.



if not get Andy Barron along...he'd be keen and probably6better than what we got so far in that position...
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i think most good centre midfielders can play right back.  i reckon christie will do a job and barron too if signed.  it's just a question of whether herbert wants his right back to play up and down the flank; if this is the case, we'd need to see a specialist deployed

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Not sure Barron would be a good choice for RB. Ricki wants to name his team to suit the opposition. Barron would be OK as a RB in a conventional 4-4-2, but would struggle as a wing back or in a 3 man defence.
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Nembo wrote:
f**k he had Jonas Salley and he was pretty much straight outta Africa. But I would guess scouting Africa would be extremely difficult, as I doubt leagues (in which we are capable of recruiting from) would have cameras around. This Cleberson sounds alright though :)
 
Hadn't Jonas played in an Australian state league though?  Much less of a risk if the guy is already here...
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james dean wrote:
Nembo wrote:
f**k he had Jonas Salley and he was pretty much straight outta Africa. But I would guess scouting Africa would be extremely difficult, as I doubt leagues (in which we are capable of recruiting from) would have cameras around. This Cleberson sounds alright though :)
 
Hadn't Jonas played in an Australian state league though?  Much less of a risk if the guy is already here...

Yip, he had been playing in the Victorian State League for a while.
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I thinks Gings is meaning Andy Boyens for right back not Andy Barron who is a midfielder.
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Na Skinny, Barron played at Right back against the Phoenix last Friday, possibly on Ricki's request.
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how about Darren Bazeley??? on a serious note, isn't Jeremy Christie able to do the job alright? he didn't seem too shabby against Wales chrispy2007-06-26 21:26:00
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Incidentally, I'm pretty sure Dodd is a more than competent Right back.
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chrispy wrote:
how about Darren Bazeley??? on a serious note, isn't Jeremy Christie able to do the job alright? he didn't seem too shabby against Wales
 
At the moment he may be the only option!!  He'll do a job but a quality attacking fullback in 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 is key.  And yes, Andy was asked to play at RB by Retro Ricky the other night.
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chrispy wrote:
how about Darren Bazeley??? on a serious note, isn't Jeremy Christie able to do the job alright? he didn't seem too shabby against Wales
 
Pritchett played right back v Wales - Christie played midfield
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thanks for clearing that up on my behalf HN.


Christie played against Wales? 
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Hard News wrote:
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure Dodd is a more than competent Right back.


COrrect.

In Season One for the Roar he played on the right hand side of a back four and back three (with Gibson/McCloughlan as the central pairing).
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Jaza wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure Dodd is a more than competent Right back.


COrrect.

In Season One for the Roar he played on the right hand side of a back four and back three (with Gibson/McCloughlan as the central pairing).
 
He also played a lot of games for Falkirk on the right as well as in the centre so obviously pretty versatile, christie is ok as a squad player cos he can provide cover in the midfield as well but def sum1 a bit quicker at RB - Lee maybe???

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