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are the pheonix stronger than the knights?
will the pheonix do better than the knights?
commonly asked question's that ive heard many different responses.
lets hear some peoples opinions.
 
 
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They could.

Backroom and financially look better. Havnt  seen on field performances so noone can tell
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yes the phoenix are better,

the knights/kings were pussies ans should have been called the auckland jesters or perhaps auckland poorpers if we were to go on the old kingdom rankings.

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Well I hope the Phoenix can do better, but the Knights at full strength were a good unit in the last season. I think the Phoenix will struggle for combinations for a while, so wait till the first four weeks of the season before you make judgement.
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yes the phoenix are better,

the knights/kings were pussies ans should have been called the auckland jesters or perhaps auckland poorpers if we were to go on the old kingdom rankings.



There was nothing wrong with the Kingz until they got f**ked by SKY Television.
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Feverish wrote:
How could they?
Getting 0 points and lasting only 1 season
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yes the phoenix are better,

the knights/kings were pussies ans should have been called the auckland jesters or perhaps auckland poorpers if we were to go on the old kingdom rankings.


I suspect you mean "paupers"

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No-one will really know whether the Phoenix are a better team on-field until the season proper starts.

But what I can say now is that off-field they appear to be galaxies ahead of the Knights. 
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If they play as well as The Knights did in their last games under Ricky H, then their season will be great!!!!!!!!
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As an Aucklander that watched the Kingz and knights from day 1 everything I see from afar indicates that the Phoenix are  light years ahead of the Knights/Kingz.
They have an owner with some acumen , have actually appointed a chief Exec with some clues , and a coach with some knowledge of the A league.
The only question mark is the age old one of recruiting - we are always the last cab off the rank - pleased to see a number of players on 2 or 3 year contracts which means some stability in the future. Kingz / Knights was invariably fill of players on one year contracts.
Believe we might struggle early on but think that we will be competitive - probably like Knights in their last 4-5 games. 
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Also watched Kingz and Knights since day one. My gut feeling is that the Phoenix will be near the bottom of the table this season, but on much more competitive terms than the Knights.
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See my column in Soccer Talk magazine for my opinion.
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Also watched Kingz and Knights since day one. My gut feeling is that the Phoenix will be near the bottom of the table this season, but on much more competitive terms than the Knights.


 no way there's more class in this nix side than the knights ever envisaged being possible
they really did recruit badly  i think jonas salley &  lei lei gao we're their only real sparks in the 2 years they had in the comp there we're too many journey men  and  i think they really under estimated the quality of the a- league both seasons running 

 having your owner live in another country calling the shots couldn't of helped either
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Wthout kicking a ball this franchise is already better than the Knights. My season ticket holding Knights mate (who wants to stay anonymous) knows it and the season hasn't even started.
We have an awesome thing happening here in Welly, we can't allow it to fail.
Incidentally this is the best looking team from an NZ franchise - surely... 
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The Phoenix are stronger than the knights
     - But so is everyone else.
 
And the Phoenix will do better than the Knights did, no argument there.
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giddyup wrote:
Also watched Kingz and Knights since day one. My gut feeling is that the Phoenix will be near the bottom of the table this season, but on much more competitive terms than the Knights.


 no way there's more class in this nix side than the knights ever envisaged being possible
they really did recruit badly  i think jonas salley &  lei lei gao we're their only real sparks in the 2 years they had in the comp there we're too many journey men  and  i think they really under estimated the quality of the a- league both seasons running 
 
Well I agree with both of you. The Phoenix will definitely not be as bad as the Knights, but I think the first season or two will be tough going. We're a start-up taking on established teams. It takes a while to get the team chemistry going. A good pre-season helps, but there is no substitute for meaningful competitive games and I think it could take while for the team to gel.
 
My only real concern is that the public and media expect instant success, whereas I think our 2nd or 3rd season will be when we will start a season on equal terms.
 
Then again, Ricki did achieve an amazing turn around at the end of last season - so maybe he has the secret to getting the team bonded quickly?
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I don't expect instant success - I'm prepared for a first up draw before we start winning consistently.
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I'm sure the Phoenix will be much better, I'd predict maybe a 5th place finish this season? (First season after all.)

Its good to see more New Zealanders in the sqaud as well.
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hmmm
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I just hope phoenix can make it away from the bottom at least above 6th and ill be happy. Like thats a succes from rock bottom.But once in a good position to push on for more points.I'd hate to be the one to say it but....NZ fans only come to watch winning teams...
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hmmm
 
We could hardley get a team together. Looks promising tho. Wouldnt read into it 2 much.

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