Mario Jardel
Confirmed as a marquee for Newcastle.
If they get the late 90's version he'll be huge. If they get the last few years version local MacDonalds had better start stocking up now.
If they get the late 90's version he'll be huge. If they get the last few years version local MacDonalds had better start stocking up now.
If that's true, it's an incredible signing, for better or for
worse.
His goalscoring record in the "2nd tier" leagues like Brazil, Portugal and Turkey was phenomenal, better than a goal a game pretty much.
But his premiership stint was a disaster. And he has always had a massive reputation of having an ego the size of Brazil.
I've heard reports over the last couple of years of him trialling for random clubs all around the world.
I really can't see him being a success in the A League, instead his impact is more likely to be similar to Romario or Brian Deane, unless he's really sorted himself out physically AND mentally. Should be fun to watch though :)
His goalscoring record in the "2nd tier" leagues like Brazil, Portugal and Turkey was phenomenal, better than a goal a game pretty much.
But his premiership stint was a disaster. And he has always had a massive reputation of having an ego the size of Brazil.
I've heard reports over the last couple of years of him trialling for random clubs all around the world.
I really can't see him being a success in the A League, instead his impact is more likely to be similar to Romario or Brian Deane, unless he's really sorted himself out physically AND mentally. Should be fun to watch though :)
O honestly think the level of the A-League is climbing at a rate
that will soon exclude alot of these older "marquee" siognings.
That's one more reason why I think Ricki has the formula right,
signign younger less known talents that still have a point to
prove. . . .
I know that his mental issues have been equally prohibitive as the
weight ones.
Does anyone think that this marquee gag is a bit of a
gimmick? Sydney have been fishing round to find someone,
anyone, to be their marquee player. Newcastle have now done
the same thing, probably less succesfully. I'm still to be
convinced that it's worth the money. The requiremenet that
they have to be a household name before they are approved by the
league and the financial limitations that naturally exist means
that the person is most likely to be washed up...
I can't really see him making much of an impact and I don't see how
it is good for team moral to have some washed up fat guy with a
huge ego and big wages join the team. It would better to see up and
coming players from overseas as a marquee even if they only stay
one or two seasons.
Thats the issue I was getting at though. If someone isn't a
household name they won't be approved as a marquee player by the
league. I'm predicting Jardel to be a big failure...
The new Brian Deane.
I love this off his Wikipedia page:
In the Christmas break he returned to his native
Fortaleza, where he injured his knee in a swimming pool
fall
Lots of pools round Noocastle - he better be careful
anyone got a recent photo? I wanna see what this pie eater looks
like?
I love this off his Wikipedia page:
In the Christmas break he returned to his native
Fortaleza, where he injured his knee in a swimming pool
fall
Lots of pools round Noocastle - he better be careful
Let's hope he doesn't decide to go swimming at Nobby's Beach,
we may end up with another Pasha Bulker...
On Marquee players:
1. One type of marquee players is the type that really rests
on reputation. They should be competent anough to still perform at
this level, but also bring with them a big reputation that will
attract punters.
2. The second type would be one who doesn't have that big a
rep, but is very skillfull in some way. Essentially these aren't
really marquee players, but they become star players.
For my mind Dwight Yorke fits into category one. He was beyond
compitent though, so a shining example of a marquee player.
I think Daniel (and perhaps Cleberson) has the potential to
become category 2. Not bought in on the basis of reputation, but
looks to have real potential, and has played at a fairly high level
before, so is not a complete unknown.
Jardel prbably fits into neither. How many people really know
who this guy is? Will general non-trainspotting punters turn up
just to see him based on reputation?
I agree with JamesDean
"Does anyone think that this marquee gag is a bit of a
gimmick? Sydney have been fishing round to find someone,
anyone, to be their marquee player. Newcastle have now done
the same thing, probably less succesfully. I'm still to be
convinced that it's worth the money. "
I think the question should be why has he only played 35 games in 4
years with 7 different clubs as he has done nothing since leaving
Ancona in 2003 and Newcastle will be his 8th club in 4 years!
I'd rather watch Nicky Carle.
I think the question should be why has he only played 35 games in 4
years with 7 different clubs as he has done nothing since leaving
Ancona in 2003 and Newcastle will be his 8th club in 4 years!
And what makes Jardel a "Household Name"?
You don't have to be a household name to be a marquee player. Look at Craig Moore. You just have to have performed well in a top league.
Jardel has done that, but it was nearly 10 years ago. Next
they'll be signing fricking Maradona.
You don't have to be a household name to be a marquee player. Look at Craig Moore. You just have to have performed well in a top league.
Of course not, by that definition only about 20 footbal
players in the world would qaulify.
Chris James for Phoenix Marquee.
Maybe we should try and get that 9 year old Australian wonder kid?
He's probably considered a house hold name now.
That kid was awesome.
Nice call on Marquees Phil Style.
I reckon that until now, Dwight yorke has been the ultimate marquee. Came with a massive rep, but still did the business on the park. Hopefully juninho will do the same.
In category 2, Daniel and Cleberson do have the potential. One player that is the perfect example of category 2, is Fred from the victory last year. Came with a reasonable rep, but delivered way beyond what anyone expected to become probably the best import so far in the short history of the A-league. If he hadn't moved to DC, he would have become marquee player for another A-league team this year.
O honestly think the level of the A-League is climbing at a rate
that will soon exclude alot of these older "marquee" siognings.
That's one more reason why I think Ricki has the formula right,
signign younger less known talents that still have a point to
prove. . . .
totally, dude. A team should be greater than the sum
of its parts, as well
Maybe we should try and get that 9 year old Australian wonder kid?
He's probably considered a house hold name now.
or john hawkesby
Chris James for Phoenix Marquee.
I completely agree Hard News. We should petition Herbert to get him.
Who the xxxx is Jardel? I consider myself a football nut and i've
never heard of him. Will he bring in crowds? Not on a non existent
reputation.
I am suprised you dont remember him from his time at Bolton as
there was a lot of "hoopla" at the time.
Wonder if he's here on Friday. Someone better warn the club
there may be some big holes to fill in the pitch if he turns up as
pie-laden as he's rumoured to be.