Crowds - The thread of Australian whining

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Whitby boy
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I think our crowds are holding up well compared to other A-League clubs and Wellington rugby.
 
I have not done an analysis compared to other A-League clubs but compared to the Hurricanes and Lions, and taking 2008 as the base, average crowd trends are;
 
Nix; 2009 (+5%), 2010 (+35%, excl. playoffs), 2010 (+105%, incl. playoffs)
 
Canes; 2009 (-9%), 2010 (-17%)
 
Lions;  2009 (-1%), 2010 (-47%)
 
Despite the negative economic impact of the recession on many Wellington businesses and the job insecurity for a lot of public servants our crowds are improving - a good news story.
 
Some decent weather, a continual improvement in form and results and a couple of home payoff games and we will be looking just fine.
 
 
For ease of comparison the average attendances for the Nix are calendar year not season and Nix exhibition games are excluded.
 
 
September 18, 2010 21:41 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
valeo
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Agreed. I never expected a huge crowd boost on the back of the World Cup - i'm just happy our crowds haven't dropped.
September 18, 2010 22:10 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Arsenal
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Marquee
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C-Diddy wrote:
Why, to help with the clean up operation?


September 18, 2010 22:29 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Junior82
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Whitby boy wrote:
I think our crowds are holding up well compared to other A-League clubs and Wellington rugby.
I have not done�an analysis compared to other A-League clubs but compared to the Hurricanes and Lions, and taking 2008 as the base, average crowd trends are;

Nix; 2009 (+5%), 2010 (+35%, excl. playoffs), 2010 (+105%, incl. playoffs)

Canes; 2009 (-9%), 2010 (-17%)

Lions;� 2009 (-1%), 2010 (-47%)

Despite the negative economic impact of the recession on many Wellington businesses and the job�insecurity for a lot of public servants our crowds are improving - a good news story.



I would say our crowds have remained static. Average of first three games crowd for each season:

1. 12,675
2. 7,851
3. 9,105
4. 9,135

September 18, 2010 22:58 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Steve-O
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connorsmom wrote:
Mmmmm but the population of�Wellington is about 160,000 - the whole Wellington region, including Kapiti, Hutt and Wairarapa is about 452,000, the population of Adelaide is 1,400,000, Brisbane 1,820,000 Melbourne 3,900,000, Sydney 4,450,000 ...... kind of puts it into perspective�


Yeah, Phoenix crowds are very impressive in comparison to the largely dire efforts around Australia.
September 18, 2010 22:58 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Junior82
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That's a red herring.

The crowd that rocks up to Wgtn games is completely independent of anything that happens in Australia.
September 18, 2010 23:05 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Steve-O
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Why's that?

Seems a pretty fair comparison to me.
September 19, 2010 00:21 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Junior82
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The issue is crowds (absolute) in Wellington not crowds as a proportion of the greater Wellington area and compared with what any other city is pulling in.

Would you think that a crowd of 500 in Wgtn is so much better than a crowd of 1000 in Sydney?

The better comparison is year on year crowds for the same location.

Otherwise we might as well be very happy that we are outperforming the other teams on a per capita basis (but still not actually getting many punters in to watch the games).
September 19, 2010 01:21 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Whitby boy
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Using the Westpac stadium website as gospel on games / attendances
 
 
the total number of people who have paid to watch the Nix play at the RoF is;
 
2007/08 season 107,304
2008/09 season 75,565
2009/10 season 144,317
2010/11 season 25,462
 
Pre-season cups 23,136
Exhibition games 43,614
 
Grand total; 419,398
 
We will hit half a million this season
Whitby boy2010-09-19 16:34:35
September 19, 2010 16:33 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
paullt
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Gold coast with a 5,000 cap on their crowds got a might 2,00 odd today which is absolutely sh*t
September 19, 2010 21:30 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
CboZ
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2000 odd haha, good luck for there mid week game I'll predict 1400
September 19, 2010 21:49 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
C-Diddy
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CboZ wrote:
2000 odd haha, good luck for there mid week game I'll predict 1400
 
 
 
5pm Sunday = f**k all public transport options...
 
7:30pm Wednesday will be more favourable!
September 20, 2010 08:56 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Procrastinixing
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Whitby boy wrote:
Using the Westpac stadium website as gospel on games / attendances
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the total number of people who have paid to watch the�Nix play at the RoF�is;

�

2007/08 season 107,304

2008/09 season 75,565

2009/10 season 144,317

2010/11 season 25,462

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Pre-season cups 23,136

Exhibition games 43,614

�

Grand total; 419,398

�

We will hit half a million this season


add 7,212 to 419,398 = 426,610.

Does anyone know why the stadium figures are different from the ones the A-League reports? A-league ones are always more and in some case around a thousand more. seems bizarre.

September 25, 2010 13:35 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Louis Klein
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Things that we could learn from the league to attract more people to Nix games.

1. 15 Minutes of intense Lord of the rings type music with a heartbeat over top of it.
2. Fire when the Nix score and enter the stadium.
3. A band at half time.
4. Build up to confirmation of a Red or yellow card on the big screen, With a slow motion replay and RED CARD or YELLOW CARD flashing up on the screen over top of it.
5. National Anthem every game, But just New Zealand's
6. Haka or some sort of choreographed intimidating dance after the anthems.
October 24, 2010 11:50 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Footpaul
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Stefan wrote:
Things that we could learn from the league to attract more people to Nix games.

1. 15 Minutes of intense Lord of the rings type music with a heartbeat over top of it.
2. Fire when the Nix score and enter the stadium.
3. A band at half time.
4. Build up to confirmation of a Red or yellow card on the big screen, With a slow motion replay and RED CARD or YELLOW CARD flashing up on the screen over top of it.
5. National Anthem every game, But just New Zealand's
6. Haka or some sort of choreographed intimidating dance after the anthems.


And from the other eggball code:

7. Announcer over the load speakers: "make some noise if you like how Wellington are playing!" (That was what they had at Eden Park last weekend for the Auckland game (substitute Welly for Auckland, of course). Rugby crowds are so dumb. Of course I wore my Nix shirt ... while enjoying Auckland Rugby's corporate box on halfway!)
October 24, 2010 12:01 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
ShowUsYaNix
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8. On the loudspeaker - "Defence... defence... defence... defence..." like in Basketball. That has to be the most moronic tradition in spectator sport
October 24, 2010 12:11 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Gooner 4 Life
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^
This
October 24, 2010 12:23 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Tegal
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The words to chants up on the big screen.

Stock a lot more food than I've ever seen to any football match.

Simplify chants "Phoenix Phoenix" in really deep monotonous tone.

Remodel football so that the men on the field touch each other in awkward positions as often as possible.
October 24, 2010 12:59 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Tegal
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Thundersticks
October 24, 2010 13:00 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
arnies
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about 15 years
Stefan wrote:
Things that we could learn from the league to attract more people to Nix games.
2. Fire when the Nix score and enter the stadium.
3. A band at half time.
4. Build up to confirmation of a Red or yellow card on the big screen, With a slow motion replay and RED CARD or YELLOW CARD flashing up on the screen over top of it.


2 and 3 are actually quite expensive.

4, I'm not sure they're allowed to replay referee decisions. Hence no offside replays
October 24, 2010 14:49 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
detoxin
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arnies wrote:

Stefan wrote:
Things that we could learn from the league to attract more people to Nix games.
2. Fire when the Nix score and enter the stadium.
3. A band at half time.
4. Build up to confirmation of a Red or yellow card on the big screen, With a slow motion replay and RED CARD or YELLOW CARD flashing up on the screen over top of it.
2 and 3 are actually quite expensive.4, I'm not sure they're allowed to replay referee decisions. Hence no offside replays


yea they arn't FFA rules
October 24, 2010 15:03 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Footpaul
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Bits of card with "great goal" written on one side and "nice save" on the other.
October 24, 2010 15:34 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Louis Klein
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Just the card going up will do.
October 24, 2010 15:37 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Steve-O
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Play music when the ball goes out of play.
October 24, 2010 15:43 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Phil B.
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Cheerleaders. Lots of cheerleaders.
October 24, 2010 19:35 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Junior82
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Larissa. Just one Larissa.
October 24, 2010 19:37 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
charliec
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Team to get some good results and the crowd will come.  However I thinks its a big ask the way our team are playing at present
October 24, 2010 19:47 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
ShowUsYaNix
WeeNix
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charliec wrote:
Team to get some good results and the crowd will come.�


This is a ludicrous idea. We should be focussing on marketing gimmicks, not actually performing on the pitch. Thundersticks and double sided cards are infinitely more appealing than goals and results
October 24, 2010 19:57 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Footpaul
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ShowUsYaNix wrote:
charliec wrote:
Team to get some good results and the crowd will come. 


This is a ludicrous idea. We should be focussing on marketing gimmicks, not actually performing on the pitch. Thundersticks and double sided cards are infinitely more appealing than goals and results


This. Let's not get carried away with what happens on the field.
October 24, 2010 19:59 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Banzai!...AIEEE!!!
Marquee
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Steve-O wrote:
Play music when the ball goes out of play.
 
 
October 24, 2010 20:09 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
HZA
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Free vuvuzela with every kids ticket

October 24, 2010 20:18 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Junior82
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hamezilla wrote:

Free vuvuzela with every kids ticket




That would be most of the crowd then.
October 24, 2010 20:25 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Banzai!...AIEEE!!!
Marquee
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hamezilla wrote:

Free vuvuzela with every kids ticket

Just need Zero Subs and the marketing strategy is complete!
October 24, 2010 20:43 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Boro4eva
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Junior82 wrote:
hamezilla wrote:

Free vuvuzela with every kids ticket




That would be most of the crowd then.
 
Wrong thread..but very quick.
October 24, 2010 20:55 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
paige478
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Listen here Fudgeface
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get rid of the ticketek service fee.
October 24, 2010 21:14 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Junior82
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It's because they don't sell kids' stadium jackets and nix season badges.

Oh yes and also those cool nix season pass holders.

October 24, 2010 21:29 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Tegal
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Themed costume days
October 24, 2010 21:37 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
Kiwi Jambo
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Tegal wrote:
Themed costume days
Yeah more of these strange men dressed as individual  sperms at the gate (I find them deeply disturbing!!) I noticed they even made it on to the pitch at half time  last home game!!
October 27, 2010 17:48 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
ChopperHarris
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when it costs $4.50 for water and only $3.50 for coffee you know something is wrong..... i reckon people just cannot afford all the costs when attending matches, and now pick and choose games and the weather unfortunately will decide if they came,

...eg...family of 4 from Lower Hutt......
 
1;  transport to and from venue...$25.00 approx...[ more if you parked at the ROF]
 
2;  tickets..............................$87.00            
 
3;  Programme.........................$5.00
 
3;  food, drinks etc...................$35.00 approx.   [ take your own food and drink ?????? ]   
 
TOTAL................................. $152.00 ..beyond many people these days........plus you want value for your money....something the team is not achieving this season ....yet ...                                               
October 27, 2010 20:35 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
zinidane
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mid week games are a killer
 
tough getting families to go with school work the next day plus the club must take a big hit.....they still have the same expenses as a weekend game but they get a small crowd
 
Ban midweek games!!!
October 27, 2010 21:23 · Edited September 09, 2012 17:40
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