Manchester United (Part 1)

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Buffon II wrote:
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Buffon II wrote:
United XI of players who have had a bust up with Fergie.

Barthez

Heinze - Stam - McGrath - Irwin

Beckham - Keane - Ince - Kanchelskis

Van Nistelrooy - Rooney

Just need a right back. EDIT: Could have Heinze there perhaps.


Thats not a bad side


Exactly, that's my point. Why is continuously like this with top players? Also i spose you could have a case for including Ronaldo here too.


I don't think Dennis Irwin ever crossed Sir A as he works for MUTV as a presenter. He would not have got the job.
October 19, 2010 22:01 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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nzmanu wrote:

Buffon II wrote:
Leggy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
United XI of players who have had a bust up with Fergie.

Barthez

Heinze - Stam - McGrath - Irwin

Beckham - Keane - Ince - Kanchelskis

Van Nistelrooy - Rooney

Just need a right back. EDIT: Could have Heinze there perhaps.


Thats not a bad side


Exactly, that's my point. Why is continuously like this with top players? Also i spose you could have a case for including Ronaldo here too.
Wes Brown could be your right back if recent reports are to be believed . . .


Wes Brown is rubbish anyway.
October 19, 2010 23:06 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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For anyone who's awake/interested, the Guardian are live-blogging todays' press conference:
 
 
Apparently the journos are all about quizzing Sir Alex on the Rooney situation..
October 20, 2010 02:08 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Alex Ferguson on Rooney: "The player is adamant. He says he wants to leave. We have to deal the next part in terms of this request."
October 20, 2010 02:24 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Rooney definitely set to leave then.
October 20, 2010 02:35 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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October 20, 2010 04:15 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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If you don't get to reinvest the money from his sale you will end up like us
October 20, 2010 07:10 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Jazcobar wrote:
If you don't get to reinvest the money from his sale you will end up like us
 
Maybe.
 
I have total trust in Sir Alex. There is a reason he told the media in this fashion. There's more to this story to come yet.
 
I would think that the next 6-18 months will have to see substantial reinvestment in the squad from United. He always said that would be the case, and replacements for Giggs, Scholes, and Van der Sar need to be found, as well as Rooney now. If we don't then yes, we might slide for a bit, and massive pressure will go on the Glazers.
 
But Sir Alex is the greatest manager in British history, and will see the team through this time. If he goes, and leaves the team in not great shape, then only then will I become overly concerned.
 
Anyway, no player is bigger than the club, and we have to pick up the pieces and take on Buraspor tomorrow, get a win, and stay at the top of our group. Do what we know best, and that is winning matches.
October 20, 2010 08:31 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Genuine question: Did you guys get to reinvest the 80m you got from Ronny C or did that all disappear like our Alonso, Masch et al monies?
October 20, 2010 09:00 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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TheKop wrote:
Genuine question: Did you guys get to reinvest the 80m you got from Ronny C or did that all disappear like our Alonso, Masch et al monies?
 
About 20 mill was spent that summer, mostly on Antonio Valencia. The other 60 million is still sitting there, if Mr Gill is to be believed, along with the usual 35 million a year transfer kitty for the past two seasons, meaning there is supposedly close to 130 million (before the sale of Rooney) to be invested in the new squad.
 
The fans who know more than I can't help but think this money has gone on the Glazers loans, but the only way to be sure will be if we don't adequately replace Rooney, and also the aging Van der Sar, Scholes and Giggs in the next 12 months. This will be the true test.
October 20, 2010 09:08 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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^ It's as good as gone then. Same stories we had. In fact we've made money on the last four transfer windows through selling top players and buying low on the cheap.

You're right though, if Rooney isn't replaced or if he's replaced with Totti you know you're in trouble.
October 20, 2010 09:18 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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MAN CITY are offering him 260,000 pounds a week. He was only wanting 150k a week at man united.

f**k, if Terry hadn't used that acc money we could have got him on a week loan....
October 20, 2010 09:19 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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i heard everton will get 25% of the transfer fee....any truth to that??
October 20, 2010 10:23 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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October 20, 2010 11:21 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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He won't go to Man City, they have to shorten their wage bill as it is to meat UEFA Fair Play restrictions. Send him to Madrid and we'll take KAKA and BENZEMA.
October 20, 2010 13:36 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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he won't go overseas. Spanish football is not for him. I'm telling you. Man City.
October 20, 2010 13:39 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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whooooooo? wrote:
he won't go overseas. Spanish football is not for him. I'm telling you. Man City.


I hope your wrong . . .

So crucial that we replace him with two or three top players, a striker and a midfielder, Sneijder would be nice. If we f**k up like we did with CR7 then we'll find ourselves in the Europe League.
October 20, 2010 13:46 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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nzmanu wrote:
whooooooo? wrote:
he won't go overseas. Spanish football is not for him. I'm telling you. Man City.


I hope your wrong . . .

So crucial that we replace him with two or three top players, a striker and a midfielder, Sneijder would be nice. If we f**k up like we did with CR7 then we'll find ourselves in the Europe League.
 
It's not replacing him with all these new players, it's replacing him plus Giggs, Scholes and van der Sar.
 
Benzema to replace Rooney, Bale to replace Giggs, Defour to replace Scholes, and De Gaea to replace van der Sar*. Add some Jack Rodwell (when he gets fit), Tom Cleverly back from Wigan and all of a sudden we've built a new team. 
 
*These players are just examples of the sort of guys SAF should be thinking about, but all would be near top of my personal wish list. All young and very talented. Need a fair bit of wedge for a couple of them though. Time to put up Glazers!
October 20, 2010 14:27 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Ripthajacka wrote:
i heard everton will get 25% of the transfer fee....any truth to that??


we get 25% on any profit made from the sale above 25million or something. so if he goes for 85million everton get 15million.12ubb3rduck3y2010-10-20 14:30:37
October 20, 2010 14:30 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Anyone think agents have something to do with this yet again?
 
Player wants to stay for life.
Agent realises without more transfer fee cuts that he wont earn maximum money off his star asset.
Player decides he wants to leave.
October 20, 2010 14:31 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Tegal wrote:
Anyone think agents have something to do with this yet again?
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Player wants to stay for life.

Agent realises without more transfer fee cuts that he wont earn maximum money off his star asset.

Player decides he wants to leave.


or he takes a wage cut and comes back to play for everton .
October 20, 2010 14:32 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Tegal wrote:
Anyone think agents have something to do with this yet again?
 
Player wants to stay for life.
Agent realises without more transfer fee cuts that he wont earn maximum money off his star asset.
Player decides he wants to leave.
 
This.
 
Or he's actually fed up with his personal stuff in the papers (you actually didn't have to shag all the pros Wayne), and wants to flee overseas to get away from it.
 
But 90% chance you're bang on, especally if he signs for those Blue f*ckers.
October 20, 2010 15:10 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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nzmanu wrote:
He won't go to Man City, they have to shorten their wage bill as it is to meat UEFA Fair Play restrictions. Send him to Madrid and we'll take KAKA and BENZEMA.


1. What makes you think Kaka would join a club in decline?

2. Benzema is a poor mans Berbatov. Lazy as hell but without the same technical brilliance.

You haven't replaced Ronaldo and if you don't replace Rooney, along with continuously playing old men Scholes and Giggs week in week out, you will soon find yourself outside the top 4.
October 20, 2010 15:48 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Buffon II wrote:
nzmanu wrote:
He won't go to Man City, they have to shorten their wage bill as it is to meat UEFA Fair Play restrictions. Send him to Madrid and we'll take KAKA and BENZEMA.


1. What makes you think Kaka would join a club in decline?

2. Benzema is a poor mans Berbatov. Lazy as hell but without the same technical brilliance.

You haven't replaced Ronaldo and if you don't replace Rooney, along with continuously playing old men Scholes and Giggs week in week out, you will soon find yourself outside the top 4.


+1 Benzema is terrible he is not a good enough replacement for Rooney as for Kaka' don't bother we sold RM an injured Kaka' last year his knee is not going to get any better
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anth183 wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
nzmanu wrote:
He won't go to Man City, they have to shorten their wage bill as it is to meat UEFA Fair Play restrictions. Send him to Madrid and we'll take KAKA and BENZEMA.


1. What makes you think Kaka would join a club in decline?

2. Benzema is a poor mans Berbatov. Lazy as hell but without the same technical brilliance.

You haven't replaced Ronaldo and if you don't replace Rooney, along with continuously playing old men Scholes and Giggs week in week out, you will soon find yourself outside the top 4.


+1 Benzema is terrible he is not a good enough replacement for Rooney as for Kaka' don't bother we sold RM an injured Kaka' last year his knee is not going to get any better


LOL I was only joking, of course this isn't going to happen.
October 20, 2010 16:15 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Buffon II wrote:
nzmanu wrote:
He won't go to Man City, they have to shorten their wage bill as it is to meat UEFA Fair Play restrictions. Send him to Madrid and we'll take KAKA and BENZEMA.


1. What makes you think Kaka would join a club in decline?

2. Benzema is a poor mans Berbatov. Lazy as hell but without the same technical brilliance.

You haven't replaced Ronaldo and if you don't replace Rooney, along with continuously playing old men Scholes and Giggs week in week out, you will soon find yourself outside the top 4.

The amount of talent that we have let go in the past few seasons...

Must say Nani has been awesome this season, in fact this year.
October 20, 2010 16:29 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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i think if he isnt happy at man utd he wont be happy at any other english team, guessing he will want to leave all the uk tabloids and what not and head to spain

could go partner smeltzy in turkey??
October 20, 2010 16:31 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Bullion wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
nzmanu wrote:
He won't go to Man City, they have to shorten their wage bill as it is to meat UEFA Fair Play restrictions. Send him to Madrid and we'll take KAKA and BENZEMA.


1. What makes you think Kaka would join a club in decline?

2. Benzema is a poor mans Berbatov. Lazy as hell but without the same technical brilliance.

You haven't replaced Ronaldo and if you don't replace Rooney, along with continuously playing old men Scholes and Giggs week in week out, you will soon find yourself outside the top 4.

The amount of talent that we have let go in the past few seasons...

Must say Nani has been awesome this season, in fact this year.


Valencia is a huge loss as well, hopefully it won't turn out to be an Alan Smith type injury. Valencia is a great and very very important player for United.
October 20, 2010 17:19 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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He wont go to Man city hes not that much of a ****. I say he'l end up going somewhere like Madrid,Munich,Milan or Chelsea or no where at all.
October 20, 2010 17:29 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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negative on overseas move.

It is reported that his wife does not want to move to spain etc so i'm pretty sure he won't want to be away from his wife and kid.

Chelsea, City are front runners at this stage.
October 20, 2010 18:04 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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He wont go to city....well not straight from united anyway - but whos to know whatll happen down the line. Maybe Madrid would be a better bet for him, but he's very much a home bird plus coleen is often on telly in england so doubt shed be too keen to wing it to spain.
 
Id love to know what his gripe is though. Wouldnt be all too suprised if he comes out saying theres no ambition from the owners as they havent let us spend some cash to recruit some already proven talent.
 
I think its fair to say its pretty much a trasitional period at the mo, much like the few years after the treble team was renewed / refreshed / replaced / whatever.
 
I really hope we can put the turks to the sword tonight, berba's not scored for a few games!
October 20, 2010 18:10 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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richierich8 wrote:
He wont go to city....well not straight from united anyway - but whos to know whatll happen down the line. Maybe Madrid would be a better bet for him, but he's very much a home bird plus coleen is often on telly in england so doubt shed be too keen to wing it to spain.
 
Id love to know what his gripe is though. Wouldnt be all too suprised if he comes out saying theres no ambition from the owners as they havent let us spend some cash to recruit some already proven talent.
 
I think its fair to say its pretty much a trasitional period at the mo, much like the few years after the treble team was renewed / refreshed / replaced / whatever.
 
I really hope we can put the turks to the sword tonight, berba's not scored for a few games!


1st paragraph -  is answered in the post before it.

2nd paragraph - good guess because that's the case.
October 20, 2010 18:23 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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lol started writing it then went away for a few mins then came back and posted it  :-p
 
 
October 20, 2010 18:29 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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na mate, all good. 
October 20, 2010 19:01 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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richierich8 wrote:
Id love to know what his gripe is though. Wouldnt be all too suprised if he comes out saying theres no ambition from the owners as they havent let us spend some cash to recruit some already proven talent.[/QUOTE]
Confirmed:
[quote=Rooney confirms he wants to leave Man Utd]Wayne Rooney has confirmed he wants to leave Manchester United, citing his concern over the club's ability to attract the best players in the world...

October 21, 2010 10:49 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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We get 25% of the sell on, so sell him for sh*te loads would ya and hurry up Moyesy needs some spending money 
October 21, 2010 15:10 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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Meanwhile.. United get three valuable champs league points without rooney or much of the regular starting 11 for that matter. Great goal from Nani, should have scored more early on. Waned as the game went on but nice to keep a clean sheet and never under threat at the back.

Macheda struggled alone up front but got into a few good positions. Be good to see Berba back in action this weekend.
October 21, 2010 15:18 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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You were only playing Bursaspor. Even Rangers beat them.
October 21, 2010 16:03 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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giddyup wrote:
We get 25% of the sell on, so sell him for sh*te loads would ya and hurry up Moyesy needs some spending money 
 
Incorrect 25% of the profit. So we only get somthing if he goes for more that 24 mill.
October 21, 2010 16:52 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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SAF has announced he's going to put this too rest within 24 hours. Good luck?
October 21, 2010 16:55 · Edited March 18, 2021 20:50
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