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There's some speculation around that but (at least for now) it seems that major shareholders will not sell. I couldn't care less where the owner was from (I certainly don't support England), although it seems this guy is a bit dodgy......
 
 
 


of corse you dont support england!!!
 
your french aint ya???? 
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sir_trev wrote:
of corse you dont support england!!!
 
your french aint ya???? 


I may have some French ancestry.
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Lonegunmen wrote:
 
He is more cheerful than Sir Al-Sux at Manure or that forever sick looking fella at the Gooners.
 
 
Yeah perhaps.....but those two are far better managers.
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sir_trev wrote:
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LOL show me the Homegrown talent that moanrinhio has nurtured, or chelsea for that matter. Name a single player in their 1st team sqaud that played in thier youth teams.
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thats the pot calling the kettle black isn't it?
 
Because Arsenal is FULL of young english talent is it????????
 
you talk as if you have a famous football academy like us at west ham
 
i think not
I wasnt referring to english players. i think homegrown counts if you spend at least a couple of years in the academy system at a club regardless of where you are from -thats the ruling as far as UEFA are concerned i think.
 
 
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I understand a certain Russian has today increased his stake in Arsenal. Won't be long now. remember when Arsenal set a new record of not having one English player in there team for the first time ever in their history a few seasons back.
 
Jose was good at post match interviews, he said it as saw saw it, he was funny, sometimes unintentionally and he was very pasionate about the game. I'd love to have him at QPR, they might start to play proper football again after so many years on nout!
 
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I didn't know that bypassing the midfield altogether was called proper football...
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You haven't watched QPR lately, yes, it makes this look like proper football!
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Lonegunmen wrote:
I understand a certain Russian has today increased his stake in Arsenal. Won't be long now. remember when Arsenal set a new record of not having one English player in there team for the first time ever in their history a few seasons back.
 
Jose was good at post match interviews, he said it as saw saw it, he was funny, sometimes unintentionally and he was very pasionate about the game. I'd love to have him at QPR, they might start to play proper football again after so many years on nout!
 
Arsenal last year fielded for the first time in european football history a starting 11 where every single player came from a different country. Arsenal have produced more than there fair share of great english footballersin the past, its just a matter of time before wengers youth policy finds the future stars of the english game. The biggest english talents we have had at the club lately either ended up not being up to the required level (bentley, sidwell, cambell) or complete tosspots (Ashley Cole, im looking at you) the likes of Hoyte and Walcott are two players who will make the England squad soon enough.
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Jerome Thomas was one Wenger let go, had he stayed I think he would have gone onto greater things, left side of midfield too.
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UberGunner wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
I understand a certain Russian has today increased his stake in Arsenal. Won't be long now. remember when Arsenal set a new record of not having one English player in there team for the first time ever in their history a few seasons back.
 
Jose was good at post match interviews, he said it as saw saw it, he was funny, sometimes unintentionally and he was very pasionate about the game. I'd love to have him at QPR, they might start to play proper football again after so many years on nout!
 
Arsenal last year fielded for the first time in european football history a starting 11 where every single player came from a different country.
Is that something to be proud of ?? or are you trying to make an obscure point ?
Arsenal have produced more than there fair share of great english footballersin the past, its just a matter of time before wengers youth policy finds the future stars of the english game.
You had 4 players in the England U/19 squad so maybe a fair point But i wouldnt wait up.
The biggest english talents we have had at the club lately either ended up not being up to the required level (bentley, sidwell, cambell) 
Cygan better than Sol Cambell do me a f****G favor. And Sidwell and Bently are VERY decent players.
or complete tosspots (Ashley Cole, im looking at you)
What ? Like Sol Cambell who left 3 point Lane for more money to go across the road to you !! Maybe he just didnt fancy being the only Englishman at the club ?
the likes of Hoyte and Walcott are two players who will make the England squad soon enough.
Do keep up. Walcott has already made it once (albeit for that cretin Errikson) wasnt good enough to be risked even when England were desperate for an attacking option and has hardly made a 1st team start since joining you.
 
Rant over, sorry but i have had a bad day and i hate Arsenal with a f***g passion.
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Tourets wrote:
UberGunner wrote:
Lonegunmen wrote:
I understand a certain Russian has today increased his stake in Arsenal. Won't be long now. remember when Arsenal set a new record of not having one English player in there team for the first time ever in their history a few seasons back.
 
Jose was good at post match interviews, he said it as saw saw it, he was funny, sometimes unintentionally and he was very pasionate about the game. I'd love to have him at QPR, they might start to play proper football again after so many years on nout!
 
Arsenal last year fielded for the first time in european football history a starting 11 where every single player came from a different country.
Is that something to be proud of ?? or are you trying to make an obscure point ?
Arsenal have produced more than there fair share of great english footballersin the past, its just a matter of time before wengers youth policy finds the future stars of the english game.
You had 4 players in the England U/19 squad so maybe a fair point But i wouldnt wait up.
The biggest english talents we have had at the club lately either ended up not being up to the required level (bentley, sidwell, cambell) 
Cygan better than Sol Cambell do me a f****G favor. And Sidwell and Bently are VERY decent players.
or complete tosspots (Ashley Cole, im looking at you)
What ? Like Sol Cambell who left 3 point Lane for more money to go across the road to you !! Maybe he just didnt fancy being the only Englishman at the club ?
the likes of Hoyte and Walcott are two players who will make the England squad soon enough.
Do keep up. Walcott has already made it once (albeit for that cretin Errikson) wasnt good enough to be risked even when England were desperate for an attacking option and has hardly made a 1st team start since joining you.
 
Rant over, sorry but i have had a bad day and i hate Arsenal with a f***g passion.
 
thats about the level of reply i feel up too. I have heard it all before. For every positive thing about arsenal there is someone who hates them, and has to knock them down.(did Wenger kill your Mum) Explain to me why england team is crap because the gunners arent buying (overpriced) English players.
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UberGunner wrote:
Explain to me why england team is crap because the gunners arent buying (overpriced) English players.


16.5m sure doesn't buy you much these days

(check the last few seconds of the clip)

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Much as I am enjoying reading you guys bitch and moan about Arsy Whinger and that French team I thought this was a thread about Mourinho.

Personally I am going to miss that scowl the next time we beat Chelski in a cup semi. Seeing the look on his face made beating them so much sweeter.

Jose getting tossed was so on the cards after Roman left before the end of the Villa game. Rosenborg was just the last straw.

Work this out tho'. Official message from Chelsea read that Jose 'didn't resign' and 'wasn't sacked'.


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Converstaion went like this...

"Im quitting"
"you want to leave?"
"yep"
"Thats ok, we dont want you anyway"
"Really?"
"Yeah, the boss thinks your crap, and his buddy Shevchenko asked him to get rid of you."
"Oh..."
"When do you think you can have your desk cleared out by?"
"...(boohoo) nobody loves the special one anymore"
"Can you leave a bit quicker please, theres a good chap."
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thats about the level of reply i feel up too. I have heard it all before. For every positive thing about arsenal there is someone who hates them, and has to knock them down.(did Wenger kill your Mum) Explain to me why england team is crap because the gunners arent buying (overpriced) English players.



The England team is crap, mainly because the FA have mismanaged appointments of managers and coaching structures for many years, basically they have kept the team in the dark ages.

England have always had the players capable of winning a major championship, except maybe for the dark period in the 80's.

Arsenal, Liverpool and MUFC fans crack me up with their whining about Chelsea and their money.
They forget that it could be argued that their clubs bought all their titles over the last 30 years, as no-one else could compete financially at the time. Combined with a top manager.

Look at the G14 or whatever its called, they resisted Chelsea joining at all costs, tells you a lot really.


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Lonegunmen wrote:
 
Now if Roman cashes in his chips, Chelsea's demise will be as quick as the Titanics, they won't be able to afford their squad as it is.
 
And this compliment about Jose coming from a QPR fan.
 
Sadly though it shows that Roman is probably still very interested in his play-thing of a football club otherwise he wouldn't be bothered how they play and wouldn't be arsed about putting the thumb screws on Mourinho thus effectively forcing the Special One out.
 
Can't see how he is a loss to the Premiership, perhaps the only positive thing he did bring was interrupting the boring  weekly war of words between Wenger and SAF.
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UberGunner wrote:

Converstaion went like this...

"Im quitting"
"you want to leave?"
"yep"
"Thats ok, we dont want you anyway"
"Really?"
"Yeah, the boss thinks your crap, and his buddy Shevchenko asked him to get rid of you."
"Oh..."
"When do you think you can have your desk cleared out by?"
"...(boohoo) nobody loves the special one anymore"
"Can you leave a bit quicker please, theres a good chap."
 
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
Quick,  nurse,  i have actually split my sides,  what tremendous wit. I am not worthy
 
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Tourets wrote:
UberGunner wrote:

Converstaion went like this...

"Im quitting"
"you want to leave?"
"yep"
"Thats ok, we dont want you anyway"
"Really?"
"Yeah, the boss thinks your crap, and his buddy Shevchenko asked him to get rid of you."
"Oh..."
"When do you think you can have your desk cleared out by?"
"...(boohoo) nobody loves the special one anymore"
"Can you leave a bit quicker please, theres a good chap."
 
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
Quick,  nurse,  i have actually split my sides,  what tremendous wit. I am not worthy
 


Folks - I think we've got ourselves a Chelski fan.

Enjoy your demise into middle table obscurity. ie where you came from.
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Arsenal wrote:
Tourets wrote:
UberGunner wrote:

Converstaion went like this...

"Im quitting"
"you want to leave?"
"yep"
"Thats ok, we dont want you anyway"
"Really?"
"Yeah, the boss thinks your crap, and his buddy Shevchenko asked him to get rid of you."
"Oh..."
"When do you think you can have your desk cleared out by?"
"...(boohoo) nobody loves the special one anymore"
"Can you leave a bit quicker please, theres a good chap."
 
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
Quick,  nurse,  i have actually split my sides,  what tremendous wit. I am not worthy
 


Folks - I think we've got ourselves a Chelski fan.

Enjoy your demise into middle table obsccurity. ie where you came from.
 
No sh*t Sherlock
 
Wheres the go f**k yourself smilie when you need one ??
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That's Chelsea for you.  We never do things in a boring way!
 
So the guy has gone.  Much as I love him, it was always going to end badly and suddenly. I'm amazed he stayed as long as he did to be honest.  But it's a business and we'll move on from this and keep evolving. 
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Sorry I'm late to the party but...
 
F^*#ing YEAH!!!
The little ass is gone!
Maybe this is the start of what everyone has wanted since the Russian Revolution - Abramovich to get bored and pull his billions out, making Chelsea the new Leeds, only without the sympathy...
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It's all a bit over the top though.
I was watching the Premier League Preview show and you would've thought he'd just died.
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Hah.. I read the title as 'Mourinho re-signs'. 
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Since when have Leeds United required sympathy! League rules are league rules.
As for West Ham the fact that they are still in the premier league is a scandal and they should be plying their trade in the Championship (where they belong) and Sheffield United should be playing in the top flight.

Jose may have gone and i thank him for the two championships plus the other silverware he brought back to the bridge but listen up Gooners, Millwall, West Ham and the Spurs fans (I would include Fulham but who really cares)
If you think this is the end of the golden age of Chelsea  "Forget about it"
Just another beginning.
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Since when do dirty Leeds need sympathy?

Serves them right for cheating again. 
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Interesting take on the "sacking" from the guardian/observer newspapers, which for those that don't know are respected papers.  If this has a hint of truthfulness then Roman has gone bonkers like that Hearts chairman. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/ ForteanTimes2007-09-23 21:08:30
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Marco Van Basten to be the new Chelsea manager ????????????
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Arsenal, Liverpool and MUFC fans crack me up with their whining about Chelsea and their money.
They forget that it could be argued that their clubs bought all their titles over the last 30 years, as no-one else could compete financially at the time.

My problem is not with Chelsea buying a title or two, they are certainly not the first to come from no where to be champions, take Blackburn for example. And as you say you could argue that all titles, especially these days, are bought on the basis that the more money you have, as long as you use it wisely, the more likely you are to be successful.

My problem is with Chelsea's policy of paying above market rates for players. This has artificially inflated the whole market which forces all teams to pay more for players (during one of last seasons CFC v LFC games it was noted that Chelsea's bench cost more than Liverpools entire team). "So what?" you say. So, the flow on effect is that the clubs have to make more money to compensate so that they don't fall too far into debt and implode (see Leeds) so ticket prices go up and it ends up being the poor fan who pays the penalty.


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Agreed, a Premier league match ticket is expensive and a freakin season pass cost an arm and a leg.
 
Chelsea not going to win anything this year, with THe Special One(in more ways than one) gone.
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Nestling wrote:
Agreed, a Premier league match ticket is expensive and a freakin season pass cost an arm and a leg.
 
Chelsea not going to win anything this year, with THe Special One(in more ways than one) gone.


Its a bold claim that Chelsea are not going to win anything this year so early on in the season!
The squad has not left only the manager.




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Malky wrote:
Arsenal, Liverpool and MUFC fans crack me up with their whining about Chelsea and their money.
They forget that it could be argued that their clubs bought all their titles over the last 30 years, as no-one else could compete financially at the time.

My problem is not with Chelsea buying a title or two, they are certainly not the first to come from no where to be champions, take Blackburn for example. And as you say you could argue that all titles, especially these days, are bought on the basis that the more money you have, as long as you use it wisely, the more likely you are to be successful.

My problem is with Chelsea's policy of paying above market rates for players. This has artificially inflated the whole market which forces all teams to pay more for players (during one of last seasons CFC v LFC games it was noted that Chelsea's bench cost more than Liverpools entire team). "So what?" you say. So, the flow on effect is that the clubs have to make more money to compensate so that they don't fall too far into debt and implode (see Leeds) so ticket prices go up and it ends up being the poor fan who pays the penalty.



I agree that at times Chelsea have paid inflated prices for players and lets be honest,  in order to break the Manchester Utd/Gooners stranglehold on Premier League titles they had to.
Before Chelsea won the title in 2004/05,  in 12 seasons Manchester United won 8 titles, The Gooners 3 and Blackburn Rovers 1 title.
The Gooners in this case being junior partners in the stranglehold on titles in the Premier League.
Long gone are the days when a Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Everton or even Aston Villa/Spurs are going to win a title without spending ridiculous amounts of money on transfer fees and wages.
And in my opinion the game in England is poorer for the fact that a financial elite now sit at the top of the Premiership. 
A lot of the romance for me was lost with the formation of the Premier League and the expansion of the Champions League and the continued financial domination by Europe's elite clubs. Fueled by TV $.

I find the A-League an exciting prospect for supporters of all of the 8 clubs due to the salary cap. The Salary cap does away with the ability of say a Chelsea/Manchester Utd/Gooners or even Liverpool to constantly dominate the top four positions and entry in to the Champions League.
Which lets face it is one hell of $ Festival for any club that qualifies.
And for these clubs entry to the Champions League is the bottomline at the start of the season. Winning the Premier League is just icing on the cake.
Its the money from television that drives the  football equivalent of the arms race, long gone are the days that money from the gate was a major source of revenue.
In some cases it makes up only @16% of some clubs revenue.

In order to win the A-League clubs will have to use their resources wisely without going on spending sprees to solve squad depth problems.
Local talent will have to be nurtured.

I use the National Rugby League as an example of how a salary cap can open up a competition.
In the last 9 years of the tournament 1998-2006, 7 different teams have won the Grand Final, with the Broncos leading the way with three titles.

Anyway I look forward to Chelsea's campaign this season, but to be frank i would rather swap another Premier League title for seeing the Phoenix in the Grand Final of the A-League.










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Why do Arsenal get lumped in with the other big spenders? Arsene Wenger has never been a big spender. Our team that lined up vs Derby on the weekend cost less to assemble than what Man U,  Spurs and Liverpool spent on transfers this season. Each. Our entire squad could be bought 5 times over on what Chelsea have paid for players in the last 3 years.

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Why do Arsenal get lumped in with the other big spenders?

Maybe because in 2007 they have spent 31.35 million euros on players, when was the last time that say Bristol Rovers spent that much in a season?

According to Deloitte Football Money League 05/06 the Arse are the ninth richest club in the world with revenue of 133 million euro.

From the Arsenal financial results year ending 31st May 2007.

Turnover is  200.8 million pounds
Group operating profit is 51.2 million pounds.

Now compare those results with the rest of the Premier League and then with clubs from the Championship and League one and two.



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