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nufc_nz wrote:

Well to be fair, there were no games played when they finished the app.


well to be really fair, 
even at that point they could have predicted that some teams would win and that folks watching delayed would have spent a fair bit of effort avoiding radio, tv, twitter, emails, their phone, most of the internet and warned their famiiy not to spill the beans in order to avoid accidently finding out the result

it's not rocket surgery

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It would have been a pretty simple thing to test tbh. 

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Their screenshots on the Play Store show matches from the end of last season, so they were using last season's games to test the system out. The "there were no games played when they finished the app" argument nufc_nz made yesterday shows a lack of understanding about the development process, as NOTHING about the app would have been able to be tested without example games. 

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Are those matches in the pics in bold ?

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Nope, but the score between Man U and Arsenal was 10-10 apparently.

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Those matches in the screenshots aren't from last season. They just look like dummy fixtures. 

Also I know on a Galaxy S2 that the playback controls don't look like that, not sure about other devices. So maybe the screenshots are just mockups?

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JarrodM wrote:

Those matches in the screenshots aren't from last season. They just look like dummy fixtures. 

Also I know on a Galaxy S2 that the playback controls don't look like that, not sure about other devices. So maybe the screenshots are just mockups?

Think that they've just screenshotted the PC version there to be honest.
I didn't look hard enough at the screenshots before I made comment, apologies.
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If you’re a sports fan in New Zealand you’ll be aware of the acquisition of the New Zealand broadcast rights to the English Premier League by Coliseum Sport, a new start-up who’s goal is to break the stranglehold of existing broadcast TV by streaming games over the internet.

Unfortunately for Coliseum they’re already set themselves up to fail. Not because of their model, but the poor technological solutions that they’ve chosen to deliver their content. Delivery of video content over the internet is the future of media, and with the rollout of fibre optic cable to 75% of New Zealand homes by 2019 as part of the Ultra Fast Broadband (UFB) rollout, New Zealand homes will have the capability and bandwidth to enable broadcasters to bypass existing terrestrial and satellite delivery platforms – that’s not to say New Zealand doesn’t already have world class broadband, because we do - over 80% of premises are capable of receiving a internet connection of at least 10Mbps, and around 50% of those premises are capable of receiving VDSL2 which can deliver between 30Mbps and 70Mbps depending on your distance from your local exchange or roadside cabinet. What UFB does differently is enable guaranteed bandwidth to premises, and more importantly enables multicast delivery of content over the UFB network, something that is essential to deliver high bandwidth content to multiple premises. Delivering content over the internet is the way of the future, particularly as people move to replace viewing live content with watching On Demand content when and where it suits them.

Coliseum Sport’s failing isn’t the decision to deliver content over the internet – it’s the options that exist to view their streamed content. No matter how many internet enabled devices people may have in their home, the big screen TV is still the entertainment hub of the home. While tablets may be convenient for watching content in bed, nothing can match the experience of watching high definition content on a big screen TV. Logic would dictate that anybody looking at  replacing the existing broadcast model would focus on replicating the experience, but it seems it’s the aspect Coliseum have chosen to ignore. Right now your only option for watching Coliseum Sport content is to use a PC as their content uses Adobe Flash for it’s streaming – although there are are Android and iOS apps in development to allow viewing content on these devices. If you want to watch content on your big screen TV your only option is to hook a PC up to your TV, something that’s not difficult if you own a laptop, but it’s still a very cumbersome task that simply shouldn’t be required. If you don’t own a laptop that you can move to near your TV it’s probably not even an option.

Coliseum’s have completely overlooked the fact that every home in the country that has a TV with Integrated Freeview|HD (known as an IDTV – Integrated Digital TV) or a MyFreeview|HD recorder already has the technology built in to solve their problem. Pretty much every IDTV sold these days is required to have internet connectivity to comply with Freeview specifications. While many so called smart TVs already have their own applications such as YouTube for viewing content from the internet, building applications for multiple brands of TVs is expensive and time consuming, and that’s where MHEG5 steps in to save the day.

MHEG5 is an open standards Application Programme Interface (API) that is mandatory on every Freeview|HD IDTV or Freeview Set Top Box (STB) sold in New Zealand. MHEG5 allows interactive applications to be run on the TV or STB, an example of which is the Freeview Electronic Program Guide (EPG). The EPG application is device agnostic, meaning it will run on every MHEG5 capable device and deliver the same consistent user experience across every device that it’s run on. One of the coolest features of MHEG5 is the interactive channel extensions and ICStreaming extensions – two extensions that allow interactive content on your TV using content that is sourced via the internet.  Support for this is required on every Freeview|HD IDTV and MyFreeview|HD recorder now sold, and it means your TV can access streaming content delivered over a broadband connection without the end user having to install any software or change any settings - all that’s required is for the TV to be correctly connected to an Internet connection. Support for ICStreaming is not required on every standard Freeview STB, however some do support this capability.

MHEG5 ICStreaming is already used in countries such as the UK to deliver BBC iPlayer content to end users, and has also been chosen by Quickflix who will be launching a MHEG5 based service into the New Zealand market before the end of 2013. This will make viewing Quickflix content on your TV as simple as watching regular broadcast channels, and means Quickflix don’t have to develop applications for the different brands of smart TVs on the market.

The capabilities of MHEG5 are exceptionally powerful, and there is nothing to stop other broadcasters or ISPs from building their own MHEG5 applications and delivering content over the internet. What’s surprising so far is the lack of interest from existing players such as TVNZ and Media Works who both currently offer On Demand services, but make viewing that content on a TV far more difficult than it needs to be. The key is making content easy to access, and both of these players, along with Coliseum Sport, don’t yet seem to have grasped this simple concept.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8520
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Reckon you'll find that's something they're looking into. Or an Apple TV is just as good. 

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Bullet point summary please?


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Coliseum should integrate their service with TV better. 

Sorry, I don't know how to do bullet points on here. Hope the above is still readable. 

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Tegal wrote:

Coliseum should integrate their service with TV better. 


Sums it up nicely
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Thanks.


Yes - that would be good.


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Scottishbhoy wrote:

If you’re a sports fan in New Zealand you’ll be aware of the acquisition of the New Zealand broadcast rights to the English Premier League by Coliseum Sport, a new start-up who’s goal is to break the stranglehold of existing broadcast TV by streaming games over the internet.

Unfortunately for Coliseum they’re already set themselves up to fail. Not because of their model, but the poor technological solutions that they’ve chosen to deliver their content. Delivery of video content over the internet is the future of media, and with the rollout of fibre optic cable to 75% of New Zealand homes by 2019 as part of the Ultra Fast Broadband (UFB) rollout, New Zealand homes will have the capability and bandwidth to enable broadcasters to bypass existing terrestrial and satellite delivery platforms – that’s not to say New Zealand doesn’t already have world class broadband, because we do - over 80% of premises are capable of receiving a internet connection of at least 10Mbps, and around 50% of those premises are capable of receiving VDSL2 which can deliver between 30Mbps and 70Mbps depending on your distance from your local exchange or roadside cabinet. What UFB does differently is enable guaranteed bandwidth to premises, and more importantly enables multicast delivery of content over the UFB network, something that is essential to deliver high bandwidth content to multiple premises. Delivering content over the internet is the way of the future, particularly as people move to replace viewing live content with watching On Demand content when and where it suits them.

Coliseum Sport’s failing isn’t the decision to deliver content over the internet – it’s the options that exist to view their streamed content. No matter how many internet enabled devices people may have in their home, the big screen TV is still the entertainment hub of the home. While tablets may be convenient for watching content in bed, nothing can match the experience of watching high definition content on a big screen TV. Logic would dictate that anybody looking at  replacing the existing broadcast model would focus on replicating the experience, but it seems it’s the aspect Coliseum have chosen to ignore. Right now your only option for watching Coliseum Sport content is to use a PC as their content uses Adobe Flash for it’s streaming – although there are are Android and iOS apps in development to allow viewing content on these devices. If you want to watch content on your big screen TV your only option is to hook a PC up to your TV, something that’s not difficult if you own a laptop, but it’s still a very cumbersome task that simply shouldn’t be required. If you don’t own a laptop that you can move to near your TV it’s probably not even an option.

Coliseum’s have completely overlooked the fact that every home in the country that has a TV with Integrated Freeview|HD (known as an IDTV – Integrated Digital TV) or a MyFreeview|HD recorder already has the technology built in to solve their problem. Pretty much every IDTV sold these days is required to have internet connectivity to comply with Freeview specifications. While many so called smart TVs already have their own applications such as YouTube for viewing content from the internet, building applications for multiple brands of TVs is expensive and time consuming, and that’s where MHEG5 steps in to save the day.

MHEG5 is an open standards Application Programme Interface (API) that is mandatory on every Freeview|HD IDTV or Freeview Set Top Box (STB) sold in New Zealand. MHEG5 allows interactive applications to be run on the TV or STB, an example of which is the Freeview Electronic Program Guide (EPG). The EPG application is device agnostic, meaning it will run on every MHEG5 capable device and deliver the same consistent user experience across every device that it’s run on. One of the coolest features of MHEG5 is the interactive channel extensions and ICStreaming extensions – two extensions that allow interactive content on your TV using content that is sourced via the internet.  Support for this is required on every Freeview|HD IDTV and MyFreeview|HD recorder now sold, and it means your TV can access streaming content delivered over a broadband connection without the end user having to install any software or change any settings - all that’s required is for the TV to be correctly connected to an Internet connection. Support for ICStreaming is not required on every standard Freeview STB, however some do support this capability.

MHEG5 ICStreaming is already used in countries such as the UK to deliver BBC iPlayer content to end users, and has also been chosen by Quickflix who will be launching a MHEG5 based service into the New Zealand market before the end of 2013. This will make viewing Quickflix content on your TV as simple as watching regular broadcast channels, and means Quickflix don’t have to develop applications for the different brands of smart TVs on the market.

The capabilities of MHEG5 are exceptionally powerful, and there is nothing to stop other broadcasters or ISPs from building their own MHEG5 applications and delivering content over the internet. What’s surprising so far is the lack of interest from existing players such as TVNZ and Media Works who both currently offer On Demand services, but make viewing that content on a TV far more difficult than it needs to be. The key is making content easy to access, and both of these players, along with Coliseum Sport, don’t yet seem to have grasped this simple concept.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8520


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Junior82 wrote:

Thanks.


Yes - that would be good.



LOL

nufc where do you get all your gifs?
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iOS apps are available...


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my prediction is that CSM will sell the rights back to Sky by about December this year after a poor take up.  I have being saying this to people for a while, but wanted it in writing so I can act incredibly smug if it actually happens.

Had a mate who went down to one of the pubs to watch the Man Utd vs Chelsea game on Tuesday morning, and he said that the quality was 7/10 at best which is disappointing - if pubs don't have fast enough broadband (and there is no reason why they should - I would guess my broadband at home is at least as quick as what I have at work) then there is no chance for some people to watch games in good quality.

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Frankie Mac wrote:

my prediction is that CSM will sell the rights back to Sky by about December this year after a poor take up.  I have being saying this to people for a while, but wanted it in writing so I can act incredibly smug if it actually happens.



I heard Tim Martin speaking last week saying the take up was excellent and they were far exceeding where they thought they'd be at this stage in terms of subscribers.

Now I've said before he reminds me of a used-car salesman, so I suspect he was never going to say anything other than that

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That may well be the case, and good luck to them if it is.  I am still wary of the lack of advertising, etc from them.  It seems weird to spend a few million (hundred million) dollars on something and then basically do only a few radio talkback shows to promote it.  I've mentioned before in this thread, but I would have expected ads in the paper, on tv, fliers through the mailbox, etc

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Dougie Rydal wrote:

iOS apps are available...


Downloading now... and will test out how nicely it works in conjuction with Apple TV and will report back.
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Frankie Mac wrote:

That may well be the case, and good luck to them if it is.  I am still wary of the lack of advertising, etc from them.  It seems weird to spend a few million (hundred million) dollars on something and then basically do only a few radio talkback shows to promote it.  I've mentioned before in this thread, but I would have expected ads in the paper, on tv, fliers through the mailbox, etc


I thnk everyone who wants to watch the EPL knows where to get it. There is no one turning on SKY Sport on Sunday morning saying " bloody hell, where's the games ?"
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patrick478 wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:

iOS apps are available...


Downloading now... and will test out how nicely it works in conjuction with Apple TV and will report back.


What do you think ?
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nufc_nz wrote:
Frankie Mac wrote:

That may well be the case, and good luck to them if it is.  I am still wary of the lack of advertising, etc from them.  It seems weird to spend a few million (hundred million) dollars on something and then basically do only a few radio talkback shows to promote it.  I've mentioned before in this thread, but I would have expected ads in the paper, on tv, fliers through the mailbox, etc


I thnk everyone who wants to watch the EPL knows where to get it. There is no one turning on SKY Sport on Sunday morning saying " bloody hell, where's the games ?"

yeah, I guess.  Makes you wonder why Sky, or Coca Cola or pretty much every organisation in the world advertise though, doesn't it
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nufc_nz wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Dougie Rydal wrote:

iOS apps are available...


Downloading now... and will test out how nicely it works in conjuction with Apple TV and will report back.


What do you think ?


Looks really fantastic, no worse than plugging a laptop into the TV, but much easier to use. No buffering or stuttering on the highest quality. The real test will be how it performs during live matches though. 
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Hows the Android app?

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Frankie Mac wrote:
nufc_nz wrote:
Frankie Mac wrote:

That may well be the case, and good luck to them if it is.  I am still wary of the lack of advertising, etc from them.  It seems weird to spend a few million (hundred million) dollars on something and then basically do only a few radio talkback shows to promote it.  I've mentioned before in this thread, but I would have expected ads in the paper, on tv, fliers through the mailbox, etc


I thnk everyone who wants to watch the EPL knows where to get it. There is no one turning on SKY Sport on Sunday morning saying " bloody hell, where's the games ?"

yeah, I guess.  Makes you wonder why Sky, or Coca Cola or pretty much every organisation in the world advertise though, doesn't it

Reminder advertising. Established brands advertise to remind us that they exist. Guys like coliseum already have the free coverage, they focus more on getting people to trial the product e.g the 10,000 free passes courtesy of tiger. They need to do more of this in my opinion though, like day pass specials for $5 etc. 
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Just tried the app through appletv. It passes my standards.



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I'll probably hold off until they get an Apple TV app before getting one (or do they have one?). Until then ill just see what the quality is like connecting iPad to TV. Then can use laptop for other activities (porn)

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The app is awesome. Exceeded my expectations that's for sure. 

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I don't think they'd be much difference between any potential specialised apple tv app and just airplaying from your iphone/ipad to the apple tv. So if you were serious about getting one, there's probably no point waiting. there was an update this morning with some more apps. vevo which has music videos, and if you set your location to the US you can get a disney channel app (but it is then geoblocked and you can't access it, think you need a cable sub from over there anyway) and also a weather channel app which is usable but all the temperatures are in farenheit. the weather channel also has tv shows on it, I'm watching Hawaii Air Rescue now. 

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i'm waiting for the Apple TV as I don't have an iPad/iPhone; so unless the Android app kicks arsenal - I'm holding off, like Wenger in the transfer market (facepalm).

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You guys getting the same quality though the iPad app on Apple TV? 

Feeling im stuck at about 800kbs on the iPad but can get 3000kbs on the PC. Might just need a wireless extender I think.

Strangely looking forward to getting up for a dump during the game and taking the football to the loo with me.

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SurgeQld wrote:

i'm waiting for the Apple TV as I don't have an iPad/iPhone; so unless the Android app kicks arsenal - I'm holding off, like Wenger in the transfer market (facepalm).

Android apps out already I think.
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If anything, my picture is actually better through the ipad airplay

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yeah for some unknown reason, when I connect my macbook via airplay or hdmi I can't get it to take up the whole tv, think it might have something to do with the retina resolution of the macbook. airplay with my iPhone and also iPad is great. bit weird that you can't put it to sleep though so it has to stay on with the screen just showing airplay. that's also how the nfl app works though so obviously it's by design for some reason.

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Scottishbhoy wrote:

If you’re a sports fan in New Zealand you’ll be aware of the acquisition of the New Zealand broadcast rights to the English Premier League by Coliseum Sport, a new start-up who’s goal is to break the stranglehold of existing broadcast TV by streaming games over the internet.

Unfortunately for Coliseum they’re already set themselves up to fail. Not because of their model, but the poor technological solutions that they’ve chosen to deliver their content. Delivery of video content over the internet is the future of media, and with the rollout of fibre optic cable to 75% of New Zealand homes by 2019 as part of the Ultra Fast Broadband (UFB) rollout, New Zealand homes will have the capability and bandwidth to enable broadcasters to bypass existing terrestrial and satellite delivery platforms – that’s not to say New Zealand doesn’t already have world class broadband, because we do - over 80% of premises are capable of receiving a internet connection of at least 10Mbps, and around 50% of those premises are capable of receiving VDSL2 which can deliver between 30Mbps and 70Mbps depending on your distance from your local exchange or roadside cabinet. What UFB does differently is enable guaranteed bandwidth to premises, and more importantly enables multicast delivery of content over the UFB network, something that is essential to deliver high bandwidth content to multiple premises. Delivering content over the internet is the way of the future, particularly as people move to replace viewing live content with watching On Demand content when and where it suits them.

Coliseum Sport’s failing isn’t the decision to deliver content over the internet – it’s the options that exist to view their streamed content. No matter how many internet enabled devices people may have in their home, the big screen TV is still the entertainment hub of the home. While tablets may be convenient for watching content in bed, nothing can match the experience of watching high definition content on a big screen TV. Logic would dictate that anybody looking at  replacing the existing broadcast model would focus on replicating the experience, but it seems it’s the aspect Coliseum have chosen to ignore. Right now your only option for watching Coliseum Sport content is to use a PC as their content uses Adobe Flash for it’s streaming – although there are are Android and iOS apps in development to allow viewing content on these devices. If you want to watch content on your big screen TV your only option is to hook a PC up to your TV, something that’s not difficult if you own a laptop, but it’s still a very cumbersome task that simply shouldn’t be required. If you don’t own a laptop that you can move to near your TV it’s probably not even an option.

Coliseum’s have completely overlooked the fact that every home in the country that has a TV with Integrated Freeview|HD (known as an IDTV – Integrated Digital TV) or a MyFreeview|HD recorder already has the technology built in to solve their problem. Pretty much every IDTV sold these days is required to have internet connectivity to comply with Freeview specifications. While many so called smart TVs already have their own applications such as YouTube for viewing content from the internet, building applications for multiple brands of TVs is expensive and time consuming, and that’s where MHEG5 steps in to save the day.

MHEG5 is an open standards Application Programme Interface (API) that is mandatory on every Freeview|HD IDTV or Freeview Set Top Box (STB) sold in New Zealand. MHEG5 allows interactive applications to be run on the TV or STB, an example of which is the Freeview Electronic Program Guide (EPG). The EPG application is device agnostic, meaning it will run on every MHEG5 capable device and deliver the same consistent user experience across every device that it’s run on. One of the coolest features of MHEG5 is the interactive channel extensions and ICStreaming extensions – two extensions that allow interactive content on your TV using content that is sourced via the internet.  Support for this is required on every Freeview|HD IDTV and MyFreeview|HD recorder now sold, and it means your TV can access streaming content delivered over a broadband connection without the end user having to install any software or change any settings - all that’s required is for the TV to be correctly connected to an Internet connection. Support for ICStreaming is not required on every standard Freeview STB, however some do support this capability.

MHEG5 ICStreaming is already used in countries such as the UK to deliver BBC iPlayer content to end users, and has also been chosen by Quickflix who will be launching a MHEG5 based service into the New Zealand market before the end of 2013. This will make viewing Quickflix content on your TV as simple as watching regular broadcast channels, and means Quickflix don’t have to develop applications for the different brands of smart TVs on the market.

The capabilities of MHEG5 are exceptionally powerful, and there is nothing to stop other broadcasters or ISPs from building their own MHEG5 applications and delivering content over the internet. What’s surprising so far is the lack of interest from existing players such as TVNZ and Media Works who both currently offer On Demand services, but make viewing that content on a TV far more difficult than it needs to be. The key is making content easy to access, and both of these players, along with Coliseum Sport, don’t yet seem to have grasped this simple concept.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8520


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JarrodM wrote:

yeah for some unknown reason, when I connect my macbook via airplay or hdmi I can't get it to take up the whole tv, think it might have something to do with the retina resolution of the macbook. airplay with my iPhone and also iPad is great. bit weird that you can't put it to sleep though so it has to stay on with the screen just showing airplay. that's also how the nfl app works though so obviously it's by design for some reason.

Yeah connecting my iPad to TV does the same thing - cant get it full screen. Works great just on the iPad though, and quality on TV is great, just small. 
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Would love some figures on subscriber numbers to date.  Interesting in the Herlad this morning Rattue, who is relatively keen on football, talking about not having the premier league and not missing it.  I suspect that will pass once the league and union seasons are over but interesting nonetheless

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Goonertron wrote:
SurgeQld wrote:

i'm waiting for the Apple TV as I don't have an iPad/iPhone; so unless the Android app kicks arsenal - I'm holding off, like Wenger in the transfer market (facepalm).

Android apps out already I think.

yea I got it

I watched most of ManU/Chelsea on it. Buffered for about 4-5 seconds a couple of times which my computer hasn't done at all yet when watching PLP. Apart from that I was impressed. Initially the picture quality was terrible but after about 10 seconds it cleared right up and stayed good, and I'd say it was about on par with what it looked like on my TV - if anything a bit better, but I think that's just because it's so small so looks so clear. 
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If frankie mac's smear campaign somehow does bring down coliseum by Dec, would we get refunds from PLP?



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