Anyone read Mark Reason's latest anti football tirade on the Siggy stomp?
"the ‘W' in Whites replaced by a more faecal letter."
Have now - Reason: Sigmund's stamp not time for silence
FACT: Reason is paid to troll...
The Dominion Post
Have now - Reason: Sigmund's stamp not time for silence
There is a lot in the article I agree with
Ricki has been pathetic, almost to the point of confirming it is ok but not at that stage of a match. He is not a leader of men that one. If we get to the WC it wont be because of him.
And NZF De Jong response is also very poor. Cant someone in management have the balls to say it was a shocking piece of violence and there is no place for it in our represntative New Zealand team
From a PR Comms Management point of view, there is no excuse for either Ben or the team leaving Saudi before appropriate contact had been made with the UAE player and the UAE management... if the All Whites management decide Ben is not going to front the media, then fine - but for them to say that, having not made a move to put things right while there, is not acceptable...
The teams were in the same city, there will have been liaison people to make the contact etc etc ... it's just PR 101 to make sure those moves are made so that when the media barrage starts, you're in a position to control the discussion and show full regard for the victim of the event... I'm not saying they should have made Ben make the call, but there had to be someone there who could do it on behalf of NZF to calm the waters...
At the end of the day, responsibility for doing this falls with team management... and considering, in real terms, we're talking a single phone call to the relevant UAE official, it's not a huge task either.
Reason will always take the approach he does, but in this instance he has highlighted something that really should have been done a whole lot better... for instance, how many Middle Eastern teams will see this now as a factor when considering playing against the AWs in the future? Might not affect them at all, but on the other hand it might...
I hate it when people write things like this:
My wife occasionally gets frustrated at me - hard to believe, I know - but as of yet, she has not swept my legs from under me and then brought the heels of her shoes crashing down on both knees. And there has been considerably more provocation than Sigmund ever received the other evening.
It ranks alongside the "if Player A did that to Player B in the street, then they would be arrested".
any blog/opinion piece from Worthington or Reason has got to be taken with many grains of salt - reason's latest article on the AB's is just plain rubbish. Read this piece recently which I know has been a huge topic of discussion in the Nix management.
Discussing how disgustingly overpriced and poor the stadium food and beer is - excluding Fritz's Weiners of course.
Nix poster out in tomorrow's doom post
So I have just lodged a complaint to the Press Council because of this article. http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/9428646/Herbert-lost-the-respect-of-the-players
In particular, because it may have breached two principles outlined by the New Zealand Press Council. Namely:
Accuracy, Fairness and Balance
Publications should be bound at all times by accuracy, fairness and balance, and should not deliberately mislead or misinform readers by commission or omission. In articles of controversy or disagreement, a fair voice must be given to the opposition view.
Exceptions may apply for long-running issues where every side cannot reasonably be repeated on every occasion and in reportage of proceedings where balance is to be judged on a number of stories, rather than a single report
Comment and Fact
A clear distinction should be drawn between factual information and comment or opinion. An article that is essentially comment or opinion should be clearly presented as such. Cartoons are understood to be opinion.
As part of that of that process, I'm required to contact the editor of the publication outlining my complaint. Which I have done. Here is the extract of her email.
"As you have pointed out the piece carried no source nor comment from Ricki Herbert. This is because it was an opinion piece written by our soccer writer.
I note that you cite two principles breached under Press Council guidelines - comment and fact and accuracy, fairness and balance.
I would like to take this opportunity to assure you that the information gathered was from reliable sources close to Mr Herbert. As already stated this was an opinion piece so no comment from Mr Herbert was required."
Meanwhile, this is a cracking article!
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
that last comment made me "Ha!"
So I have just lodged a complaint to the Press Council because of this article. http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/9428646/Herbert-lost-the-respect-of-the-players
In particular, because it may have breached two principles outlined by the New Zealand Press Council. Namely:
Accuracy, Fairness and Balance
Publications should be bound at all times by accuracy, fairness and balance, and should not deliberately mislead or misinform readers by commission or omission. In articles of controversy or disagreement, a fair voice must be given to the opposition view.
Exceptions may apply for long-running issues where every side cannot reasonably be repeated on every occasion and in reportage of proceedings where balance is to be judged on a number of stories, rather than a single report
Comment and Fact
A clear distinction should be drawn between factual information and comment or opinion. An article that is essentially comment or opinion should be clearly presented as such. Cartoons are understood to be opinion.
As part of that of that process, I'm required to contact the editor of the publication outlining my complaint. Which I have done. Here is the extract of her email.
"As you have pointed out the piece carried no source nor comment from Ricki Herbert. This is because it was an opinion piece written by our soccer writer.
I note that you cite two principles breached under Press Council guidelines - comment and fact and accuracy, fairness and balance.
I would like to take this opportunity to assure you that the information gathered was from reliable sources close to Mr Herbert. As already stated this was an opinion piece so no comment from Mr Herbert was required."
It is no way clearly presented that it is an opinion piece.
It also claims facts from reliable sources, those aren't opinion, so the principle of balance should still apply - which they also clearly haven't done (and admitted as such)
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
*Shuffles about, quietly in the corner, thinking ahhhh them was the days... Inside Right, FTW*
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
2 - 3 - 5 (or as we referred to it 5-3-2) - certainly brings back some memories of the "good old days" - leather laced footballs, proper tackles, no prima donnas, late nights in the clubrooms - ahh, bliss
late nights in the clubrooms? That still happens.
If it was an opinion piece then why wasn't it labelled as such?
This one is clearly labelled as an opinion - http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/9453840/Has-the-haka-had-its-day
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
1974. Inside right!
Wow me too (inside right) - that's four so far.
Pleased people enjoyed the column ...
When I first started playing football as a 5-yr-old at Nelson Park, we played 2-3-5 ... with me at inside right ... popular (quality) position ...
Ignore, double post ...
Strike One for the inside lefts!!!
This is probably the best way of describing Morgan's way of going about things that I've ever read;
"Morgan's peculiar brand of philanthropy can at times be heavy-handed and loose-lipped, which attracts detractors and can hide worthwhile observations."
He has many many good things to say, but more often than not they get lost in the media storm that was created by the way he went about saying them
This is probably the best way of describing Morgan's way of going about things that I've ever read;
"Morgan's peculiar brand of philanthropy can at times be heavy-handed and loose-lipped, which attracts detractors and can hide worthwhile observations."
He has many many good things to say, but more often than not they get lost in the media storm that was created by the way he went about saying them
Always said Morgan is just a rich prick who thinks that being rich entitles him to tell others what to do and how they should live etc
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
*Shuffles about, quietly in the corner, thinking ahhhh them was the days... Inside Right, FTW*
No 10 : Inside left (plotter & schemer & agitator) Central League 1969
"But football, like all sports, is forever fluid and changing. Astute coaches find ways to combat the dominant style of play and instigate new methods. That's why we've seen 2-3-5 become 4-4-2, why we've had the Whole of Football programme, the deep-lying centre forward, Catenaccio and Total Football."
Hands up who has played 2-3-5 (other than Leggy!).
You remember Tommy Hep as a player? Classy left foot. Does he dig his hand into his deep pockets these days for the cause I wonder.
Ricki recently played a 1-5-4-1 formation which I hope is not the future of the game.
While not quite the doom post, BT destroys Sam Worthington
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11165215
Wow, a story with named sources. Clearly not a Worthington article!
Worthington is the new Whale Oil http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11165217
Blackie cited the Law Commission's report News Media Meets 'New Media' which described blog sites as often "highly partisan" and "highly offensive and personally abusive".
Shit that is chortley funny.
Burgess has one quote in his opinion piece and its hard hitting with lots of revelations without sources too
three people quoted. Turner, Christie and Emblem.
Two journos referred to would be Smith and Worthington?
His opinion piece junior theres 2 pieces
Just found it. Clearly placed in the opinion section of Granny Herald.
Treated as such (noticed the proliferation of this type of article in mainstream media? Designed to boost readership and interaction).
Rumours the Bad Burgess (Dave) will be doing a blog on YF tomorrow
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/budgie-on-the-ball
While not quite the doom post, BT destroys Sam Worthington
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11165215
Hopefully they are allowed access to The Herald, Fairfax staff, as SW should read that.
Who exactly are the Yellow Fever?
DAVE BURGESS
Just what is the Yellow Fever fan club? How do you become a member? What happens to profits from their merchandise?
These questions stem from a conversation with a non-footballing friend who asked me if I was a Yellow Fever member.
I have a club membership. The membership card says Yellow Fever Zone. That’s good because I like to stand, sing, and shout my support.
It certainly makes me part of the Yellow Fever crowd but does it make me part of the fan club? Or is the club, as has been suggested to me, simply a website forum?
Well, for sure, it’s a bit more than that. Yellow Fever Ltd is a registered company with one director/shareholder and two other shareholders.
What I also know is that Yellow Fever Ltd management, or their representatives, get to decide what is written on a giant banner traditionally unfurled before games. They get to submit articles for the Nix programme. They get to organise trips to games outside Wellington. They get to represent the fans with stadium management. They get invitations to media events.
Good on them.
Then comes the Yellow Fever merchandise, primarily t-shirts such as the Retro-Ricki.
There are new t-shirt designs every season. They are sold in shops such as Ryos. They’re as classy as a Hernandez free kick. I own three different styles.
Does the merchandise make a profit and if so where does that profit go?
It’s time for the Yellow Fever to have a transparent leadership structure and to insist on memberships.
Having a website forum so fans hiding their identities can spread whatever rubbish they want doesn’t cut it as a fan club. All fans deserve a voice but they should be clearly identifiable.
Wellington Phoenix Football Club needs to play a larger part in Yellow Fever operations. For example, it should take a lead from AFL teams which hold BBQs for official fanclub members. They do that because they know without fans, there is no club.
Yellow Fever-founders rightfully received plaudits for creating a good atmosphere at the Cake Tin after the club formed in 2007. But more than six years later and the time has come to step it up a level.
I have never signed a Yellow Fever membership form or paid a membership fee. As far as I’m aware, no one else has either. Ask me and I’d do both – so long as there is transparency of operations and management.
I love the Phoenix and being part of the Fever crowd but these are valid questions that demand some clear answers
It's an opportunity for Te Whever to get on the front foot... adopting the NZ Football comms methodology (aka: the Emu) will, by default, reinforce the negativity/secrecy inferred in the article.
Invite him on the poddy, answer his q's publicly (and openly as he seems to infer some secret society kinda thing lol). Use their (Fairfax) own forum (that readers article Stuff Nation bollocks) platform to do so.
And, get him to write a follow-up article answering his own questions (and more).
It's an opportunity - make the most of it.