All Whites vs Peru | First leg | Sat 11 Nov | 4:15pm | RoF

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

for all the oh no not Colvey comments  (me included) I think he did well a long with Wynn. More often than not their wingers played back or square.

Honestly I thought he was pretty trash defensively, his composure was pretty good but nah, not for me overall. Wynne was a lot better for me and actually stood out down that left side

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Peru players looked gutted after the game, almost in a state of disbelief... that's got to take a toll on them mentally, not to mention I am sure there will be a few home papers asking what we went wrong.

Due to the away goal rule I expect them to be a little cagey, the last thing they will want to do is find themselves 1 - 0 down... a little like we were at the start. Only difference been, the longer it goes on the better we will feel and the worse they will. 

Excited for Thursday. Just hope everyone pulls up ok and good to play.

They were probably expecting to score at least one given the amount of ball in nz half they had. They also seemed to want to walk the ball into the net instead of shooting the ball

They took half a dozen shots from outside the box. They shot poorly when had good chances, shot when they shouldn't have, and sometimes should've shot but didn't. They didn't look like they wanted to walk the ball into the net, but weren't always sure how to get it in the net.

given that NZ had at times 8 players in or close to their area, one would think more shots from outside box would have been handy 

Peru did make bad decisions in final stages of attack. Cueva shooting an average shot when he had Farfan overlapping outside of him and Flores finding himself free behind the defence and cutting the ball back instead of shooting the ball come to mind

They were also a bit slow transitioning into attack which allowed nz time to get back in numbers

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Player ratings?:
Marinovic 8 Fantasic recovery, and excellent decision making
Colvey 7 Coped well
Boxall 7 Strong part of the team effort at the back
Reid 8 Good, crucial interceptions
Smith 7 Solid
Wynne 7 Ditto
Weemac 8 Great workrate
Lewis 6 Did his job
Thomas 9 Super work on the ball and defensively
Rojas 6 Pressed them well in a team
Kosta 7 Worked his butt off
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Dura 6 Fitted in smoothly
Wood 7 Class straight away. Imagine if we could have had him for the game
Tuiloma 6
Comments? Arguments?

over the 90 minutes i think Peru played better than NZ. But I wouldn't give the majority of the peruvisn team anything over 5 points, seems curious that so many nz players got 7 when they were not the better team and over 90 minutes failed to generate much offensively while playing at home. Is it because they exceeded expecations?

having said all that

Winston Reid was easily the best player for NZ and Alberto Rodriguez was easily the best peruvian out there, so kudos for both captains

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To everyone questioning what Kosta did - did you watch the game? He won aerial duels ffs. Little Kosta - winning fudgeing headers! Did a great job as a last minute replacement for Wood and absolutely ran his ass off closing down Peru.

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Reading all these comments and I'm left to wonder if anyone here actually watched the game

I've been lurking this forum for a long time and I just felt like this time I had to register and give an honest un-biased opinion on this game

I've been working in new Zealand for over 10 years and I have follow the team for the past 8. 

Let me start by saying that whoever thinks we played well today is out of their mind. We pretty much " parked the bus" , we couldn't make more than 2 -3 correct passes on the opposite side  most of the game. Anytime we got the ball in our half , we ended up sending useless long balls to the other side of the field , where the peruvian defenders had no problem controlling.

Peru dominated 70-80 % of the game , they created 2 or 3 good chances in the first half ( the one saved on the line, cueva open shot and I believe there was another one) , in the second half they also had 3 good chance ( the header , the open shot the peruvian had in the box and there was another one I can't remember) , while we only had one good chance in 90 minutes of the game , which was the ball thomas almost scored, maybe there was another one but I really can't remember. So that means Peru created more than twice the chances we had , and they were the visiting team !!

Wood made a small difference, nothing to bragged about , the peruvian defenders controlled him pretty well. You guys are getting excited about Wood like he was taking out peruvian defenders and having many chances, where that was not even the case

Now here is the concerning part , we were supposed to win balls in the air , that was where we were supposed to shine. However Peru won most of the balls in the area, they had no problems defending our corners or free kicks. They even managed to have a good scoring chance in a corner

I'm also reading this non sense of Peru not being a top team. Let's be real guys , they dominated an away game . We had 5-6 guys defending in the back , any team in the world would have a problem scoring against us. Mexico beat us by one goal last year and  we managed to tied the USA in Washington , those 2 teams are top 20.  However my concern is we have no idea what to do once we past the midfielder. It's a joke that we have to send long balls every time!! , we made the peruvian team controlled pretty easily. 

I don't see this sense of optimism going on here, we are going to play an away game now , the southamerican fans are very different than us , the stadium will be loud., they will make us feel their presence .  I've done some research and found another interesting fact , the Peruvian stadium has a wider field , meaning the peruvians are going to have more advantage playing on the sides, if anyone remembers the game , that is where they made the most damaged . They have very precise passing , we were not able to do anything once they had the ball in the wider areas. They pretty much toyed with us there. Thank God , they did not know what to do once the ball was sent in the area, but how long can we hold the clean sheet. A wider field does not work in our favor for defending 

I'm not happy with the result, we had to win , we are the home team. This is the first time I see fans celebrating a tie at home. I'm worry , we created one chance, the peruvians controlled the game. We can not connect more than 2-3 passes on the other side of the field . The peruvian won in the air ( where it matter, inside the box). 

Im hoping wood starts this game if fit 

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Wood_9 wrote:

Reading all these comments and I'm left to wonder if anyone here actually watched the game

I've been lurking this forum for a long time and I just felt like this time I had to register and give an honest un-biased opinion on this game

I've been working in new Zealand for over 10 years and I have follow the team for the past 8. 

Let me start by saying that whoever thinks we played well today is out of their mind. We pretty much " parked the bus" , we couldn't make more than 2 -3 correct passes on the opposite side  most of the game. Anytime we got the ball in our half , we ended up sending useless long balls to the other side of the field , where the peruvian defenders had no problem controlling.

Peru dominated 70-80 % of the game , they created 2 or 3 good chances in the first half ( the one saved on the line, cueva open shot and I believe there was another one) , in the second half they also had 3 good chance ( the header , the open shot the peruvian had in the box and there was another one I can't remember) , while we only had one good chance in 90 minutes of the game , which was the ball thomas almost scored, maybe there was another one but I really can't remember. So that means Peru created more than twice the chances we had , and they were the visiting team !!

Wood made a small difference, nothing to bragged about , the peruvian defenders controlled him pretty well. You guys are getting excited about Wood like he was taking out peruvian defenders and having many chances, where that was not even the case

Now here is the concerning part , we were supposed to win balls in the air , that was where we were supposed to shine. However Peru won most of the balls in the area, they had no problems defending our corners or free kicks. They even managed to have a good scoring chance in a corner

I'm also reading this non sense of Peru not being a top team. Let's be real guys , they dominated an away game . We had 5-6 guys defending in the back , any team in the world would have a problem scoring against us. Mexico beat us by one goal last year and  we managed to tied the USA in Washington , those 2 teams are top 20.  However my concern is we have no idea what to do once we past the midfielder. It's a joke that we have to send long balls every time!! , we made the peruvian team controlled pretty easily. 

I don't see this sense of optimism going on here, we are going to play an away game now , the southamerican fans are very different than us , the stadium will be loud., they will make us feel their presence .  I've done some research and found another interesting fact , the Peruvian stadium has a wider field , meaning the peruvians are going to have more advantage playing on the sides, if anyone remembers the game , that is where they made the most damaged . They have very precise passing , we were not able to do anything once they had the ball in the wider areas. They pretty much toyed with us there. Thank God , they did not know what to do once the ball was sent in the area, but how long can we hold the clean sheet. A wider field does not work in our favor for defending 

I'm not happy with the result, we had to win , we are the home team. This is the first time I see fans celebrating a tie at home. I'm worry , we created one chance, the peruvians controlled the game. We can not connect more than 2-3 passes on the other side of the field . The peruvian won in the air ( where it matter, inside the box). 

Im hoping wood starts this game if fit 

Yawn. You say you've watched the team for the last 8 years - doesn't seem like it. You don't seem to understand our inherent limitations (that will likely always exist). I'm going to assume you're a British ex-pat so I'll make this comparison - this is like if a League 2 team drew with an EPL side in a two legged tie. Everyone would go bananas and say it's a great result etc. - why isn't that the same at international level where the limitations are magnified even further because of the lack of time together as a squad?

Pretty tired of reading peoples negative reactions to this game, to be honest - shows a distinct lack of understanding about our place on the world stage. We had a clear cut chance in this game to score, Peru had 2, with another one gifted by ramshackle defending by Reid/Marinovic. I'd say that's a pretty good overall result for a team ranked 100 places below the other.

Not to mention the fact that our best player wasn't even on the damn pitch for the majority of the game. and our 2nd best defender went off early. 

Thought we did superbly well, all things considered. Should've been playing against 10 men too.

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valeo wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:

Reading all these comments and I'm left to wonder if anyone here actually watched the game

I've been lurking this forum for a long time and I just felt like this time I had to register and give an honest un-biased opinion on this game

I've been working in new Zealand for over 10 years and I have follow the team for the past 8. 

Let me start by saying that whoever thinks we played well today is out of their mind. We pretty much " parked the bus" , we couldn't make more than 2 -3 correct passes on the opposite side  most of the game. Anytime we got the ball in our half , we ended up sending useless long balls to the other side of the field , where the peruvian defenders had no problem controlling.

Peru dominated 70-80 % of the game , they created 2 or 3 good chances in the first half ( the one saved on the line, cueva open shot and I believe there was another one) , in the second half they also had 3 good chance ( the header , the open shot the peruvian had in the box and there was another one I can't remember) , while we only had one good chance in 90 minutes of the game , which was the ball thomas almost scored, maybe there was another one but I really can't remember. So that means Peru created more than twice the chances we had , and they were the visiting team !!

Wood made a small difference, nothing to bragged about , the peruvian defenders controlled him pretty well. You guys are getting excited about Wood like he was taking out peruvian defenders and having many chances, where that was not even the case

Now here is the concerning part , we were supposed to win balls in the air , that was where we were supposed to shine. However Peru won most of the balls in the area, they had no problems defending our corners or free kicks. They even managed to have a good scoring chance in a corner

I'm also reading this non sense of Peru not being a top team. Let's be real guys , they dominated an away game . We had 5-6 guys defending in the back , any team in the world would have a problem scoring against us. Mexico beat us by one goal last year and  we managed to tied the USA in Washington , those 2 teams are top 20.  However my concern is we have no idea what to do once we past the midfielder. It's a joke that we have to send long balls every time!! , we made the peruvian team controlled pretty easily. 

I don't see this sense of optimism going on here, we are going to play an away game now , the southamerican fans are very different than us , the stadium will be loud., they will make us feel their presence .  I've done some research and found another interesting fact , the Peruvian stadium has a wider field , meaning the peruvians are going to have more advantage playing on the sides, if anyone remembers the game , that is where they made the most damaged . They have very precise passing , we were not able to do anything once they had the ball in the wider areas. They pretty much toyed with us there. Thank God , they did not know what to do once the ball was sent in the area, but how long can we hold the clean sheet. A wider field does not work in our favor for defending 

I'm not happy with the result, we had to win , we are the home team. This is the first time I see fans celebrating a tie at home. I'm worry , we created one chance, the peruvians controlled the game. We can not connect more than 2-3 passes on the other side of the field . The peruvian won in the air ( where it matter, inside the box). 

Im hoping wood starts this game if fit 

Yawn. You say you've watched the team for the last 8 years - doesn't seem like it. You don't seem to understand our inherent limitations (that will likely always exist). I'm going to assume you're a British ex-pat so I'll make this comparison - this is like if a League 2 team drew with an EPL side in a two legged tie. Everyone would go bananas and say it's a great result etc. - why isn't that the same at international level where the limitations are magnified even further because of the lack of time together as a squad?

Pretty tired of reading peoples negative reactions to this game, to be honest - shows a distinct lack of understanding about our place on the world stage. We had a clear cut chance in this game to score, Peru had 2, with another one gifted by ramshackle defending by Reid/Marinovic. I'd say that's a pretty good overall result for a team ranked 100 places below the other.

Not to mention the fact that our best player wasn't even on the damn pitch for the majority of the game. and our 2nd best defender went off early. 

Thought we did superbly well, all things considered. Should've been playing against 10 men too.

Peru was also missing Guerrero , which is like playing against Uruguay without Suarez. Have anyone ever seen Uruguay play without Suarez ?. I do not think the New Zealand coach understand we truly have a chance to make it. Stop parking the bus in the back and playing like an amateur team. I m all for keeping a clean sheet , but we also need to make something happen up front. 

So let me get this straight , we are happy because we did not loose at home against Peru. Why even bother playing football if we as fans do not even expect to win games

I understand the limitations , but asking the guys to try to make a good pass on the opposite side instead of sending long balls to the peruvian defenders feet is hardly something out of this world. 

We are not an amateur team , we have players that are capable of passing the ball. I m not asking barcelona tiki taka passing , but come on , you are going to just kick a long ball to the other side of the field as soon as you have it . The peruvian defense was always the recipient of our long balls.. Our forwards had not chance , at least give them the chance to do something 

I have seen copa del rey where real madrid plays against third division teams , and I do not see the third division teams doing what we did yesterday , and these are amateur players. If these amateur players can at least connect more than 2 passes on the opposite side against one of the best teams in the world , I m sure we can too. We have players that are much better than span third division teams , and peru is not real madrid.

And don't bring the excuse that we do not get too play too much together, peru can also say that . Peru is playing at disadvantage without their main start. For them its all new playing with farfan up front. I remember farfan in PSV as a midfielder , and for what I have been reading he has only played as a forward in the last 3 games in russia. 

We played well defensively to a certain extend , Peru came inside the area , we were lucky these guys can not shoot in net , but I m pretty sure in Lima this is going to be different.  I give defense a 8 , midfield a 5 because the peruvians dominated the midfield most of the game. And the offense a 3. 

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I think this has to be seen as an extremely positive result, and I think 99% of NZ fans and players would have taken a 0-0 before kick-off. Sure we were generally outclassed and under the pump for most of the game, but we defended with so much heart and deserved to keep a clean sheet there (though probably didn't deserve to score a goal either, which worked out).

Like others have said, we have to be realistic about the inherent limitations of our squad compared to Peru's. In light of the clear gulf in technical class (barring Reid, Thomas and Wood), holding Peru scoreless is a great result. And it sets us up to really put the pressure on Peru in Lima. If we can sneak an early goal, or at least hold Peru scoreless into the second half, they'll probably begin to get nervous. And let's be honest, the All Whites thrive on exploiting the nerves of teams that are technically far superior.

It also seems that the importance of the overall skill of a team is somewhat diminished in these high-stakes playoffs; we could easily play 10 friendlies against Peru and get trounced every time, but add the playoff pressure into the mix and the dynamic seems to change significantly.

To be honest, coming into this game I was hoping we could eke out a draw, or even sneak a 1-0 win, but deep down I honestly thought this could be a blow-out a la Azteca 2013. So it's fair to say I'm fizzing, particularly as I'm now travelling to Lima with some real hope that we can pull this off.

COYAW!

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but this same team was able to hold a tight score against the likes of rusia ( away game) , mexico (2-1) , japan (2-1) this year on away games

 I do not see peru as being that much stronger than those teams specially without guerrero. This guerrero guy has been compared to the likes of suarez when it comes down to national level. I remember reading argentina pres even said that guerrero at national level would be a starter in the argentina national team in front of the likes of higuain , aguero and icardi

A 0-0 is not a horrible scored and it does give us hope that we can somehow do something in lima , but we played horrible up front . For a team with some players based in europe , we should be able to connect more passes up front , we should be able to get the ball into the forwards feet . Giving away possesion when we have it so easily is not going to get us anywhere

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Ricardo, I think everyone gets your point. Playing hoof ball to Kosta was just dumb. No one here will try to defend that.

That is down to Hudsons instructions and nothing else. He is too blame and will need to fall on us sword if we lose in Peru. Crappy style and not making it then he needs to go

Saying that personally I am happy with a nil nil draw.

If we get flogged in Peru playing that style then your comments are valid. If however by some chance we defend like maniacs and can pinch a goal, then the ends justify the means.

There is still a chance of that

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Wood_9 wrote:

but this same team was able to hold a tight score against the likes of rusia ( away game) , mexico (2-1) , japan (2-1) this year on away games

 I do not see peru as being that much stronger than those teams specially without guerrero. 

spot on there mate. This team was able to lose to teams worse than Peru, and now we drew with Peru. Big step backwards.  

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Frankie Mac wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:

but this same team was able to hold a tight score against the likes of rusia ( away game) , mexico (2-1) , japan (2-1) this year on away games

 I do not see peru as being that much stronger than those teams specially without guerrero. 

spot on there mate. This team was able to lose to teams worse than Peru, and now we drew with Peru. Big step backwards.  

Peru with guerrero may be on par with the likes of mexico , japan and russia

Peru without Guerero is not.

Its not even about winning or losing. My point is I do not think we played great yesterday and I don't think a draw was a good result for us

But if we make it to the world cup , I m just not as optimistic as others. Playing like that usually is a recipe for disaster

Im hopeful coach makes some changes , Get Wood in from the start and asks the mids or defense to get a clean ball to him. I m hopeful we do not get to see this kicking a long ball anywhere on the opposite side everytime we get the ball BS.  Lets give the peruvian defenders some work. 

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in terms of ability peru are much better than us

in terms of preparation peru are miles ahead of us

and predictably, peru bossed most of this game, but we showed we might be able to pinch it. 

how anyone could expect anything better than what was achieved yesterday is beyond me

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Wood_9 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:

but this same team was able to hold a tight score against the likes of rusia ( away game) , mexico (2-1) , japan (2-1) this year on away games

 I do not see peru as being that much stronger than those teams specially without guerrero. 

spot on there mate. This team was able to lose to teams worse than Peru, and now we drew with Peru. Big step backwards.  

Peru with guerrero may be on par with the likes of mexico , japan and russia

Peru without Guerero is not.

Its not even about winning or losing. My point is I do not think we played great yesterday and I don't think a draw was a good result for us

But if we make it to the world cup , I m just not as optimistic as others. Playing like that usually is a recipe for disaster

Im hopeful coach makes some changes , Get Wood in from the start and asks the mids or defense to get a clean ball to him. I m hopeful we do not get to see this kicking a long ball anywhere on the opposite side everytime we get the ball BS.  Lets give the peruvian defenders some work. 

You are absolutely clueless mate. A 0-0 draw is a terrific result for us.

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Morning after and I'm still buzzing about last night.

I just hoped we wouldn't lose by too much last night.

A nil all draw was a fantastic result and that last 10 mins either team could have won it.  Nail biting stuff.

If I understand the qualifiers correctly, a 1 all draw over there would mean we qualify so we have th advantage now.

EXCITEMENT!!!!!

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Edited:

Fudge it, that was great. If idiots can't see that I'm not going to bother arguing with them

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Wood_9 wrote:
I've been lurking this forum for a long time and.....
See that’s where you went wrong cause at least now we know for sure that you have no clue.

How anyone can say “that’s not a good result” when the odds are so heavily against us is fudgeing clueless.

They are expected dominate and win this tie easily

They are ranked 100 places ahead of us

We were expected to capitulate

Man for man, they beat us in 9 maybe 8 matchups for talent head to head

We have a 0-0 draw and that’s a bad result? 

What were you expecting, a 3-0 win to NZ

That’s probably our best result ever in our history against a team ranked that high (I say probably because I do not know for sure)

Go back to lurking

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Anyone know what the situation is with the Peru FA appealing the Guerrero ban?  Is it likely he'll play? 

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Jeff Vader wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:
I've been lurking this forum for a long time and.....
See that’s where you went wrong cause at least now we know for sure that you have no clue.

How anyone can say “that’s not a good result” when the odds are so heavily against us is fudgeing clueless.

They are expected dominate and win this tie easily

They are ranked 100 places ahead of us

We were expected to capitulate

Man for man, they beat us in 9 maybe 8 matchups for talent head to head

We have a 0-0 draw and that’s a bad result? 

What were you expecting, a 3-0 win to NZ

That’s probably our best result ever in our history against a team ranked that high (I say probably because I do not know for sure)

Go back to lurking

Um, draw with Italy in 2010 when they were defending champs? 
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reg22 wrote:

in terms of ability peru are much better than us

in terms of preparation peru are miles ahead of us

and predictably, peru bossed most of this game, but we showed we might be able to pinch it. 

how anyone could expect anything better than what was achieved yesterday is beyond me

it's a pretty safe bet that if you defend tight  with numbers that you will eventually get at least one chance. You just have to bury it, unfortunately that one chance went wide by inches. They also had a half chance with I think Kostas who finished it badly

If NZ had attacked more they probably could have had more chances, but they might have been exposed to more counters 

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Anyone know what the situation is with the Peru FA appealing the Guerrero ban?  Is it likely he'll play? 

nope no chance

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Wood_9 wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:

but this same team was able to hold a tight score against the likes of rusia ( away game) , mexico (2-1) , japan (2-1) this year on away games

 I do not see peru as being that much stronger than those teams specially without guerrero. 

spot on there mate. This team was able to lose to teams worse than Peru, and now we drew with Peru. Big step backwards.  

Peru with guerrero may be on par with the likes of mexico , japan and russia

Peru without Guerero is not.

Its not even about winning or losing. My point is I do not think we played great yesterday and I don't think a draw was a good result for us

But if we make it to the world cup , I m just not as optimistic as others. Playing like that usually is a recipe for disaster

Im hopeful coach makes some changes , Get Wood in from the start and asks the mids or defense to get a clean ball to him. I m hopeful we do not get to see this kicking a long ball anywhere on the opposite side everytime we get the ball BS.  Lets give the peruvian defenders some work. 

this is your comment from about 5 posts earlier.....

"Wood made a small difference, nothing to bragged about , the peruvian defenders controlled him pretty well. You guys are getting excited about Wood like he was taking out peruvian defenders and having many chances, where that was not even the case"

So get the ball to Wood, but there really isn't any point as he is shark. Ok mate.

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I thought Peru's play acting and diving was worthy of an Oscar 

ref was a joke

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According to this article FIFA rejected his appeal, and he's already flown back to Brazil (which does seem a tad unlikely as he's banned from playing for Flamengo too, and I would've thought he'd stay in Lima to support the team??)

But looks like he's almost certainly out.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:
I've been lurking this forum for a long time and.....
See that’s where you went wrong cause at least now we know for sure that you have no clue.

How anyone can say “that’s not a good result” when the odds are so heavily against us is fudgeing clueless.

They are expected dominate and win this tie easily

They are ranked 100 places ahead of us

We were expected to capitulate

Man for man, they beat us in 9 maybe 8 matchups for talent head to head

We have a 0-0 draw and that’s a bad result? 

What were you expecting, a 3-0 win to NZ

That’s probably our best result ever in our history against a team ranked that high (I say probably because I do not know for sure)

Go back to lurking

Um, draw with Italy in 2010 when they were defending champs? 

What you said

Edit: I read something that this is rated in our top 3 results?

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Still buzzing - the best bit about today is that the mighty Phoenix are playing later as well,good times

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valeo wrote:

To everyone questioning what Kosta did - did you watch the game? He won aerial duels ffs. Little Kosta - winning fudgeing headers! Did a great job as a last minute replacement for Wood and absolutely ran his ass off closing down Peru.

Though second half he made a meal of several things in a row. I was impressed with what we did first half-life kinda like opening the bowling with a spinner at 92. 

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reg22 wrote:

in terms of ability peru are much better than us

in terms of preparation peru are miles ahead of us

and predictably, peru bossed most of this game, but we showed we might be able to pinch it. 

how anyone could expect anything better than what was achieved yesterday is beyond me

That Ryan Thomas shot...!

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Bananas wrote:

Morning after and I'm still buzzing about last night.

I just hoped we wouldn't lose by too much last night.

A nil all draw was a fantastic result and that last 10 mins either team could have won it.  Nail biting stuff.

If I understand the qualifiers correctly, a 1 all draw over there would mean we qualify so we have th advantage now.

EXCITEMENT!!!!!

Nail biting? I'd gnawed down as far as my arm!

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Any news on Smith and Reid injuries, they are crucial to our slim chances. Durante will get embarrassed against Peru, still surprised his picked ahead of Themi. 

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The All Whites are doing media ~2pm this afternoon, before heading to Auckland.

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I've walked out with mixed feelings about the result. I'm happy we're still in this and taking a 0-0 into the 2nd leg. I won't say it was more than I hoped for (I walked in hoping for a 2-0 win), but given I had my uncle on my left saying his prediction of a 0-3 loss was optimistic, and my father on my right making plans for a halftime departure if we were 4 or 5 down, I'll take it.

Peru dominated the game, we sat off them & let them play more than I expected (I thought Hudson was about the pressing game), but they didn't really threaten. In the first half, their best chance was created by Reid & Marinovic. 

On our side, putting Kosta up front was a negative move by Hudson. I understand Wood was injured, but there are 4 other strikers in the squad. Surely at least one of them was selected for something more than the ability to down-trou a teammate at training or apple-pie his roommate's bed? 

I'm not criticising Kosta, I thought he worked his socks off & did everything he could, but there were occasions when you could see he's not a striker.

By replacing Wood with Kosta, it seemed to me as though Hudson was doing exactly what Dave(?) had outlined in the Phoenix City podcast - hang on like grim death for 80 mins, then try & snatch it. I feel that the home leg is the one we should have been more positive in, and looked to get something from. Wood's cameo at the end, and the couple of chances we created then, simply left me wondering what might have been if we'd had a proper striker on for the full 90.

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wolfman wrote:

I've walked out with mixed feelings about the result. I'm happy we're still in this and taking a 0-0 into the 2nd leg. I won't say it was more than I hoped for (I walked in hoping for a 2-0 win), but given I had my uncle on my left saying his prediction of a 0-3 loss was optimistic, and my father on my right making plans for a halftime departure if we were 4 or 5 down, I'll take it.

Peru dominated the game, we sat off them & let them play more than I expected (I thought Hudson was about the pressing game), but they didn't really threaten. In the first half, their best chance was created by Reid & Marinovic. 

On our side, putting Kosta up front was a negative move by Hudson. I understand Wood was injured, but there are 4 other strikers in the squad. Surely at least one of them was selected for something more than the ability to down-trou a teammate at training or apple-pie his roommate's bed? 

I'm not criticising Kosta, I thought he worked his socks off & did everything he could, but there were occasions when you could see he's not a striker.

By replacing Wood with Kosta, it seemed to me as though Hudson was doing exactly what Dave(?) had outlined in the Phoenix City podcast - hang on like grim death for 80 mins, then try & snatch it. I feel that the home leg is the one we should have been more positive in, and looked to get something from. Wood's cameo at the end, and the couple of chances we created then, simply left me wondering what might have been if we'd had a proper striker on for the full 90.

The away goals rule was brought in to make teams play more attacking away, but the flip side of that is home teams get more defensive. A 0-0 draw is a much better result in this game for us than a 2-2 draw for instance, so you can see why there was an emphasis on keeping a clean sheet above all else
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Peru underperformed, but we didn't make any blunders and didn't crumble at the end of the game. Even more than that I am excited to see a future team with Wood Lewis and Thomas. Reid had an immense game and won every header in that last ten minutes

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Hudson said in the post match press conference that he knew that Peru would have trained to counter Wood so because he knew Wood wasn't starting he thought he'd surprise them with something completely different.

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Ryan wrote:

Hudson said in the post match press conference that he knew that Peru would have trained to counter Wood so because he knew Wood wasn't starting he thought he'd surprise them with something completely different.

He probably decided that as the team was walking down the tunnel.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

Wood_9 wrote:
I've been lurking this forum for a long time and.....
See that’s where you went wrong cause at least now we know for sure that you have no clue.

How anyone can say “that’s not a good result” when the odds are so heavily against us is fudgeing clueless.

They are expected dominate and win this tie easily

They are ranked 100 places ahead of us

We were expected to capitulate

Man for man, they beat us in 9 maybe 8 matchups for talent head to head

We have a 0-0 draw and that’s a bad result? 

What were you expecting, a 3-0 win to NZ

That’s probably our best result ever in our history against a team ranked that high (I say probably because I do not know for sure)

Go back to lurking

Probably the 4-0 demolition of Mexico in the early 1980s, our 1-0 win against Serbia before the 2010 WC or of course like somebody else said, the draw with Italy where we were ahead for ages :)

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Contrast the post-match travel arrangements between us and the Socceroos.
I guess we could have done the same if NZ football had a spare million dollars. 
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-fl...

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scribbler wrote:

Contrast the post-match travel arrangements between us and the Socceroos.
I guess we could have done the same if NZ football had a spare million dollars. 
http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/socceroos-fl...

To be fair the socceroos have to play in a country plagued by political instability, in the middle of a constitutional crisis, and with a record of serious human rights abuses. And they also have to play in Honduras.

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Shame we couldnt get on a jet quicker than later today..that 24 hours diff may peruve crucial. 

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