ALL WHITES V BAHRAIN - Official 1st Leg T

Have you been listening to anything Ricki was saying in the lead up to the match...
simple the objectives were to keep the tie alive and get any away goal.. okay we didnt achieve the latter...

 But We didnt go into the match looking to hold off the opposition otherwise we would've played a 4-5-1....

Yea i think at times we sat back and invited pressure onto ourselves but you've got to understand the occasion and the nerves, its a play off for the world cup for crying out loud and i reckon this was a great result in a foreign land against technically gifted opposition..

Going forward as soon as mcglinchey came on it gave us that edge and he needs to start in Wellington for Brown




                                               



                                                         
                                 
                     
            
                                                                                    

                              

He and Brown played well.

Yes you are right that they did not pass well and did not create chances but that was not their job today,their job was to bring a physical presence & to break down Bahraini attacks and they did those well

haven't read the posts since last night - so this might be repititive but for mine..

Of course we looked more attacking when he came on, his job is to be a more attacking player and we changed the way we played.That doesn't mean what Elliott did was less though, it just means his game and what he was asked to do was different to McGlinchey.

sure, Brown or Elliott has to sit out, but because Herbert loves tim so much, i belive Elliot will be benched.

bring him on when we are winning 5-1 and he can do as many pass-backs as he likes and i won't mind. it's when we are supposed to be in an 'attacking' mood he kills everything.

Elliot was a bit slow at times...Was tempted to say 3 in the middle (Elliot, Mac and Brown), but then the impact Wood made when he came on was also good..Smeltz had a quiet game, but good touches in the second. I didn't notice Killen that much, but he seems to be getting rated. What did he do?

I nearly kicked my tv when Paston got yellow carded and not the Bahraini player. What a joke. As for people talking about diving, yeah it was disgusting but we are from a nation where football is a physical sport and our national squad MUST adjust if we ever want to compete in world events like the WC and Confederations Cup.

Replay on SS2 now

i'm sorry, but i believe they did not do a very good job. Countless times they let the Bahrainians turn a full 360degrees with no pressure what so ever. Sure you can blame the climate but these are professional footballers ffs.

the NZ defence is not great (lets be honest here) and we can not afford to sit back and defend all the time. Which is why i recommend we keep attacking.

but Elliot (especially) does not offer that.

Some notes.

1. Bertos can not play RB, he should have played where Smeltz did.
2. Smeltz did not get into the game enough and should have played central behind the other 2
3. Wood is Quality
4. McGlinchey is Quality
5. Sigmund is Quality
6. Nelsen is Quality
7. With three strikers, we looked very dangerous when Lochhead and Bertos played those diagonal crosses to the far post. More of them and I'm sure we would have scored.

guys the yellow card was NOT FOR TIME-WASTING !!!!

the ref gave a free kick for the incident before hand but paston thought it was 'play on' and kicked out his hands.

- you can't kick out of your hands on a free kick = yellow card.

AGREED

Yeah but he didnt signal a free kick. He just ran to the player and talked to him.

1. The keeper cannot be touched
2. Then why no yellow card for the free kick from Bahrain when the ball was moving in the second half?

I'll think you'll find Lochhead's deliveries were really dangerous tonight and I think he played the ball to the far post that Smeltz chose to knock across to Fallon

1.yes he can.
2. inconsistent refereeing and you can't give a yellow card for a free kick while the ball is still moving.

your missing the point - HE PICKED THE BALL UP !

 

there was only one (maybe a 2nd or 3rd) delivery which was dangerous. the rest were either too high, too low or straight to the keeper. (not that he crossed a lot in this match)

what are you ? 10

Post of the morning.

Can we try not to quote every single post in the thread every time we reply.  It's making it unreadable (not that a lot of what is pbeing posted isn't anyway).

Has anyone noticed that the flag in the top left of screen, in the score box, is an Australian One??

Now it has changed. My little observations
scoop2009-10-11 09:57:51

Fine then,
1. The keeper cannot be run into
2. He never put the bloody ball down from memory, will pay closer attention during replay

- edit, removed the quote
timmymadden2009-10-11 10:13:15

still, he had the ball in his hands taking a free kick = yellow card.

I must disagree still. It's exactly the same situation as taking a free kick with a rolling ball, surely it should be retaken without repercussion.

I must say watching the replay now the physical style from AW's really helped to maintain possession when they had it

whoooo<<<<bbwyners

haha

At least WYNRS had the excuse that he's only 12/13.

From where I was sitting, it looked like the ref thought Paston was taking the piss, in an attempt to waste some time, by hoofing it from his hands after the free-kick had been given . Not saying I agree, but I reckon that's why he got the yellow card.

I can't be arsed trawling through every page but I thought the AWs were average, at best. Gave away far too much cheap possession and a good team would've murdered them.

However, we got the result we wanted so now it's game on in Wellington and I'm sure we'll see a whole new AWs in terms of tactics.  Get in there, should be a cracker.

I really think that Paston was unfairly awarded a yellow. The ref blew the whistle and ran to the player who hit Paston, but did not signal a free kick.  how was Mark supposed to know? Also he took the free kick from in front of the mark by quite a bit. Maybe that should have been another Yellow? That would have been an interesting call. I don't see how it is a yellow card offence anyway. Where in the rulebook does it say it is worth a yellow card??? 

a) Football doesn't have rules, it has Laws  
b) Timewasting comes under the umbrella of Unsporting Behaviour, which basically covers anything you like from looking at the ref in a funny way to having a bad haircut, and is a yellow card offence
Jag2009-10-11 10:42:32

Can't be far away on tele

No the best game ever played by the AW's but a clean sheet is a clean sheet and a draw away at the 5th placed Asian team is not be sniffed at.

There is no way that was worth a yellow card. Bahraini player should have been carded for not even trying to get around Paston. 

Otherwise, I think the Ref did well. Wasn't fooled by the play-acting.Turfmoore2009-10-11 11:09:11

I can't see a thread about it, but I thought the TV coverage appalling. Poor directing etc from the Bahrainian end and dire commentary from Dewhurst. I'm guessing he wasn't even at the game. Is he always this bad? I don't tend to see Phoenix home games on the box.

THANK YOU I AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everyone else thinks we played like the bees knees.

i'm not trying to be funny.

i'm serious.

For a team/country that was "hyped' in the media as being dangerous down the flanks, you'd think Bahrain would've had a wider pitch...it was tiny.