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All Whites v Congo DR | Sat 14th October | 5:00am NZT | Murcia, Spain

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over 2 years ago
Champness with some impact off the bench. 🤲
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over 2 years ago
Marto
Congo look a lot more like scoring (again) then us.

Good jinx that 😉
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over 2 years ago
 soft pen? but i'll take it. 
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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over 2 years ago
The subs making a difference. Good draw in the end.
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over 2 years ago
What a game!! Some great finesse against some really quality opposition. Defense a little sus but very, very happy with our punching in midfield and attack. Could have had a few
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over 2 years ago
Unlucky Max, would have been some goal to break your duck.

Am sooo glad no VAR bullshark today. Think the officials did well, no bad calls (correct call for the pen) and all offsides correct.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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over 2 years ago
Draw a fair result. They put us under pressure and probably played smarter football in the final third. But we controlled the edges and the middle of the park. Bring on the Socceroos. 
I have an amazing ability to find my way out of mazes. I'm pathological. 
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over 2 years ago · edited over 2 years ago · History
Would any A League players (plus Rojas) make our current 1st XI? I don't think so personally.

I hope to see Bindon bump Pijnaker from the starting XI, already playing regularly at a higher level plus he's quite a bit younger.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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over 2 years ago
Glad I came down to Mercia for this, next stop RWC in France before the big game in London.  All whites, all whites!
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites

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over 2 years ago · edited over 2 years ago · History
Pretty good result that.
Game drifted for a long time after their goal up until about the 75th minute, but then we actually had some impact and quality off the bench to get us a result. Could have even nicked it at the end there too

Best players on our end across the 90 - Just, Singh, Wood, Boxall & Champness (providing that late spark).


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over 2 years ago
Champness honestly could have come on early. It's kinda problematic when he comes on and is full of life and everyone around him is ready for the full time whistle. 
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over 2 years ago
Not that great of a game for me. Quick thinking drew the penalty but felt we were a bit lucky, don't think Woody would have scored going by his performance. We just can't seem to score from open play as usual. Hopefully it's rust as many of our top guys are bench warming currently. They'd better fix it before Aus, hate losing to them!
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over 2 years ago
I thought Just was poor. Dude needs to get some power behind his shots.

I thought Wilkins looked excellent.

Some great balls by Singh.
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over 2 years ago
Watching the Aussies right now, imagine our defense against Grealish and the rest 🫣
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over 2 years ago
Np
Not that great of a game for me. Quick thinking drew the penalty but felt we were a bit lucky, don't think Woody would have scored going by his performance. We just can't seem to score from open play as usual. Hopefully it's rust as many of our top guys are bench warming currently. They'd better fix it before Aus, hate losing to them!

It’s not rust…

It’s a sh!te manager and coaching staff.


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over 2 years ago
I dunno what you lads think but McCowatt shouldn’t be starting. Bloke has one speed and when he plays we always seem to lack any creativity. 
Seems to be coach favourite. 
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over 2 years ago
Hesaidit
I dunno what you lads think but McCowatt shouldn’t be starting. Bloke has one speed and when he plays we always seem to lack any creativity. 
Seems to be coach favourite. 
Personally think he’s a solid player but agree that when all of the midfield options are available, he should be on the bench.
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over 2 years ago
We are gonna get tonked by Australia lmao.
bling blang blah
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over 2 years ago
The Subs impact off the bench really excited me. Was very effective and injected some much needed life into our performance as we were drifting. Being able to come back from 1 nil down will be great for the boys self belief. Loved twinkle-toes Champness' flair and Dalton Wilkins made a great case to not be omitted from future squads. Hope we get more minutes from Bindon against the Socceroos. 
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over 2 years ago
bennie99
We are gonna get tonked by Australia lmao.

People said that last time out, pre World Cup.

The only difference being (1st match more so) was that we couldn't finish a sandwich, let alone a chance in front of goal. 

Will be a lot closer than you think.
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over 2 years ago
So good to see Sarpreet hasn't lost a step through his injury troubles. Looks better than ever. 

Tyler Bindon looks so small, a lot of work ahead in the gym. But great to see him debut.

Had said before the game that I wanted Champness to start, I wish he had. Provides something different to the likes of Waine, McCowatt, Grieve etc who are just not very effective wide attacking players. Just is a slightly more traditional wide player but probably isn't quite up to the level he should be if he wants to start for the All Whites.  I hope Champness knuckles down and fulfills his potential at a better level than the Turkish 2nd division. For me currently I'd have Rojas and Champness either side of Wood, as we don't have Rojas in this squad I'd be tempted to push Singh a little wider and have Garbett join McCowatt & Stamenic in the midfield 3 to start the Socceroos game, even if that isn't Singh's best position. 

Overall an OK game against a decent opponent, but wouldn't it be nice to have our very best xi playing just once, to really be able to gauge how good we are/could be under Bazeley? 
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over 2 years ago
Don't know if it's been mentioned (am not looking at recent posts here b.c. I haven't watched the match yet and don't want to know the score) but FIFA+ have stuffed up and not put the match on the NZ Football page on FIFA+ where it should be found (as the Ferns v Chile was).
I finally found it on the general international FIFA+ page under "international games" with all the other recent games around the world here:
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/showcase/international-games-full-match-replays/29f51ca0-a845-4dfb-903e-6e323391909d
Specific link to AW's v Congo:
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/player/2a4764e0-2275-47e8-b0eb-6693dc098dcd?catalogId=8011acde-fa39-4731-9178-1d3de7710c6c&entryPoint=Slider

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 2 years ago
i think this is revisionism. Before the all whites played Australia they'd been in poor form in Asian qualifying and only squeezed past Peru on penalties to make the world cup. Graham Arnold was not a popular man. Their world cup campaign caused a huge perception shift. I don't think many people were expecting us to be smashed, I remember a lot of people being extremely disappointed at how poor we were at home in that 2-0 loss against their second string side. 
YoungHeartHM
bennie99
We are gonna get tonked by Australia lmao.

People said that last time out, pre World Cup.

The only difference being (1st match more so) was that we couldn't finish a sandwich, let alone a chance in front of goal. 

Will be a lot closer than you think.
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over 2 years ago
Rock Hopper
Does anyone who has experience with fifa+ know whether we can watch replays, or is it only available live? Just with kids and work I tend to have to go for the "keep my phone off all day, and squeeze in a viewing at odd hours whenever I can," strategy, when it comes to sports events I want to watch.

Replays of Ferns and All Whites matches should be here on demand on the NZ content page on FIFA+ here (as the Ferns v Chile was a few weeks ago):
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/showcase/ff85a75d-3848-4231-8392-64959bc617f9

However, FIFA+ have this time not put the match on the NZ Football page on FIFA+.
Wanting to watch it on demand this morning, I finally found it on the general international FIFA+ page under "international games" with all the other recent games around the world here:
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/showcase/international-games-full-match-replays/29f51ca0-a845-4dfb-903e-6e323391909d
Specific link to AW's v Congo:
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/player/2a4764e0-2275-47e8-b0eb-6693dc098dcd?catalogId=8011acde-fa39-4731-9178-1d3de7710c6c&entryPoint=Slider
Great to see South American World Cup qualifiers now available at that "International games" link above though!

The drawback with watching replays on demand on FIFA+ is the regular ads every seven minutes or so.
To solve this, I recommend the free ad blocker software called "ublock origin" which blocks all ads on FIFA+ for a much better viewing experience (as it does on You Tube)
I use it on my laptop's Chrome browser but it has versions for most browsers.
Details here: 
Scroll down to the bottom and choose whichever browser you use under "Platforms"
Reviews by PC Magazine of the top five ad blockers (ublock is the best):

A tip if you are having problems with lagging when watching videos on FIFA+  - click on the cog symbol at top right every time when playing a video and select "HD" rather than the default "HD+" which I found causes the video to lag.
HD works fine for me on my laptop.

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 2 years ago · edited over 2 years ago · History
imanixsupporter
i think this is revisionism. Before the all whites played Australia they'd been in poor form in Asian qualifying and only squeezed past Peru on penalties to make the world cup. Graham Arnold was not a popular man. Their world cup campaign caused a huge perception shift. I don't think many people were expecting us to be smashed, I remember a lot of people being extremely disappointed at how poor we were at home in that 2-0 loss against their second string side. 
YoungHeartHM
bennie99
We are gonna get tonked by Australia lmao.

People said that last time out, pre World Cup.

The only difference being (1st match more so) was that we couldn't finish a sandwich, let alone a chance in front of goal. 

Will be a lot closer than you think.

Yet a few days prior there were a lot of people who were disappointed we didn't get something out of the game against their first team...

We're not the million miles away that people think we are, and if anything, we've got far more quality this time around to give it a decent shake.
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over 2 years ago
Geez, that pen was weak sauce huh? 

I guess you take them and bank them, but I hope we play much better against Aussie! 


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over 2 years ago
I'm in total agreement with you that Australia shouldn't be considered huge favourites and we shouldn't be going into it feeling like massive underdogs. I'm just saying that Australia were not considered big favourites before the 2022 games. They're probably more favoured now given their results since the world cup began 
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over 2 years ago
My unpopular opinion is that Champness isn't really that good, like I'd rank him closer to not being picked than starting. He wows because he does a few stepovers or skill-moves which distract from the fact he will then lose the ball almost every time. Surely the idea of them is to be effective in aiding a pass/shot rather than being a freestyler? What is the advantage if you will then either: pass directly to an opponent, dribble it out or get tackled? 

Back at the OFC qualifiers (when the three were all there) I thought Rogerson/De Jong were far more effective. Much lower quality opposition, but even then Champness' game was still the same really.

Can very much understand DR Congo's complaints about the penalty, would not be one you'd want given against you. Bit fortunate to get a draw there, but that's the game.
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over 2 years ago
Think a lot here underrating DR Congo - ranked about 40 places above us, have a better squad and reached the WCQ playoffs in Africa last time (and could well make it this time). 
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over 2 years ago · edited over 2 years ago · History
Piney had us playing the wrong Congo!
'DR Congo with a population of just over 6M, similar in size to NZ'
Make that more like over 110M Piney.

Republic of the Congo, yes is a much smaller country.

Oh & Francophile Tuiloma trying to cool the Congolese down after the pen was awarded.
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over 2 years ago
coochiee
Piney had us playing the wrong Congo!
'DR Congo with a population of just over 6M, similar in size to NZ'
Make that more like over 110M Piney.

Republic of the Congo, yes is a much smaller country.

Oh & Francophile Tuiloma trying to cool the Congolese down after the pen was awarded.
That comment sent me scrambling to Wikipedia as well as I was 98% sure he’d cocked it up. 
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over 2 years ago
Does anyone know if TVNZ Duke will show a replay?  couldn't see anything in the listings.


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over 2 years ago
Singh roving centrally provided those passes we never see usually. Hope to see even more of it against Aussie. I thought Stamenic covered that defensive midfield really well, albeit by himself a lot of the time. Great to see our attacking intent when in possession. Bring on Wednesday morning.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 2 years ago
Khalil Media
Does anyone know if TVNZ Duke will show a replay?  couldn't see anything in the listings.


Fifa + should have a replay
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over 2 years ago
Yep, thanks, we just hoping to record it through my Sky box so I could archive it.  No dramas, too late now - that'll teach me for not checking the forum the night before the match :)
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over 2 years ago
I don't know if it is just my computer but I was a little disappointed by the quality/framerate of the stream of the game and of the 3 minute highlights package (also disappointing that there isn't a longer package prepared). Shouldn't really be complaining when it is free but I wish the games were still on Sky. I'm guessing it must be a better deal financially for NZF, must be getting paid more (or perhaps paying less themselves). 
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