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Andy Martin - All you expect and less

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over 7 years ago

Its all over rover

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over 7 years ago

that has made my year

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over 7 years ago

Plank.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 7 years ago

I'm not sure I'd be so quick to celebrate someone resigning in such cicrcumstances. This wouldn't have been an easy decision to make and one that will be hurting him personally.

Also be careful what you wish for because the leadership void this creates on top of the likely exit of Heraf won't be great for NZF.

Will be a huge test for the board to see how they manage through this.

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over 7 years ago

This is the power of the media to pretty much crash-tackle someone and make their position intolerable, when they are backed up with facts and support from disgruntled insiders. It's an awesome power which is used for both good and evil. Right now, I'd say this goes in the good column.


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This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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over 7 years ago

A resignation looks far better on a CV than a fired!

I think with the investigation about to get underway he was worried about its potential scope and what might come out in regards to him... with him gone, that aspect is unlikely to be looked at as deeply, so less chance of damaging info coming forward.

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over 7 years ago

Alleluia! Heraf next

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over 7 years ago

At least he gave us rivalism 

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over 7 years ago

"Retiring".

Much lols.

E + R + O

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

So we can expect HoofHerafOut to be ‘chipped and starred’ any moment too? 

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 7 years ago

Sancho wrote:

Counting down to the day when the title associated to the name of this thread is removed and the thread is relocated to its rightful place, the off topic section.

Well there's one part done, just waiting for all the angst, accolades and negativity to finish.

He's done a few good things that were offset by some big blunders and even though the press release was rubbish it was also offset by him finally stepping down.

Hopefully more to follow him.

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over 7 years ago

Shambles.



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over 7 years ago

MetalLegNZ wrote:

A resignation looks far better on a CV than a fired!

I think with the investigation about to get underway he was worried about its potential scope and what might come out in regards to him... with him gone, that aspect is unlikely to be looked at as deeply, so less chance of damaging info coming forward.

Has he gone immediately, or is there a step down date? And if he goes before the investigation, I assume he can avoid answering questions about what went so wrong under his watch. 

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over 7 years ago

He's clearly either even more incompetent than his namesake Andy Moles or he's been a serial liar for most of his tenure. Neither is great. Let's put a kiwi who knows football in charge now.

bling blang blah
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over 7 years ago

scribbler wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

A resignation looks far better on a CV than a fired!

I think with the investigation about to get underway he was worried about its potential scope and what might come out in regards to him... with him gone, that aspect is unlikely to be looked at as deeply, so less chance of damaging info coming forward.

Has he gone immediately, or is there a step down date? And if he goes before the investigation, I assume he can avoid answering questions about what went so wrong under his watch. 

Per the One News report, "Martin's last day at NZF was today."

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History




It's comments like this that shows me the disconnect between NZF and the general footballing community...

"I would like to thank the staff of New Zealand Football who have worked tirelessly over the past four years to deliver some outstanding achievements, under sometimes trying circumstances. Football in New Zealand is in good health because of them and they remain undeterred to do a good job for the sport they love."

There has long been a 'them' and 'us' feel which has been fed down to the federations as opposed to a 'we'.

NZF exist because of football, not the other way around.

If someone at the top can ever change this mindset, we (collectively) can help football to become a pretty amazing sport in this country!

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over 7 years ago

I would say in his case when he came to NZ  to take up this post, it was actually retirement.

On a decent pension for a number of years admittedly with some nice holidays overseas


Auckland will rise once more

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over 7 years ago

I don't know much about Deryk Shaw but he's coming across as an out of touch idiot.

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over 7 years ago

Probably the biggest clown we have ever had.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

i wouldn't start slapping each other on the back just yet. What evidence is there that the board has any inkling of what is wrong, much less how to fix it? This decision to go sounds reactionary, now the really problem begin - is the board up to finding a decent replacement, and is it capable of appointing leadership to drive NZF forward?

What does the board think moving forward would look like?

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over 7 years ago

Doloras wrote:

This is the power of the media to pretty much crash-tackle someone and make their position intolerable, when they are backed up with facts and support from disgruntled insiders. It's an awesome power which is used for both good and evil. Right now, I'd say this goes in the good column.

Great work from Pine, Voerman etc.

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over 7 years ago

scribbler wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

A resignation looks far better on a CV than a fired!

I think with the investigation about to get underway he was worried about its potential scope and what might come out in regards to him... with him gone, that aspect is unlikely to be looked at as deeply, so less chance of damaging info coming forward.

Has he gone immediately, or is there a step down date? And if he goes before the investigation, I assume he can avoid answering questions about what went so wrong under his watch. 

From Stuff

Martin told staff of his decision on Friday morning with NZF confirming the news on Friday afternoon, saying he was "retiring" at the end of the month. That is Saturday and Martin is no older than 51.


https://thejourneyfan.blogspot.co.nz/

New Zealand Football Media Association Website of the year 2015 & 2016

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over 7 years ago

Stating that he was a banker in the U.K. prior to the GFC and those pricks raked in other people's money.

Financially after a little pension here he probably has enough to muck around 


Auckland will rise once more

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over 7 years ago

Ok, how much was the golden handshake? 

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

What an arsehole

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/64974

During a press conference on 20 June 2018, the Chief Executive Officer of New Zealand Football, Andy Martin, in answer to questions from the media in respect of matters raised by a former New Zealand Football staff member, stated that the matters were linked to a “performance management issue around the individual”.

This statement was factually totally incorrect. There were no performance management issues as they relate to this former New Zealand Football staff member. Quite the opposite.

New Zealand Football are pleased to take this opportunity to apologise to the former New Zealand staff member for making such a statement.

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over 7 years ago

Trying to throw an EX staff member under the bus is beyond sharkhouse.

Express Football Special Calling At

Fratton Park - Champion Hill - Kiwitea St

And all away grounds inbetween.

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over 7 years ago

Balbi wrote:

Trying to throw an EX staff member under the bus is beyond sharkhouse.

Not only is it sharkhouse, it's slander.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 7 years ago

Also worth nothing this statement is currently buried as the 4th story on the NZF website despite being the most recent. Also hasn't been circulated to media, or posted on social media. 

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over 7 years ago

Also makes Martin's retirement more logical because what organisation would hire the fudgehead now. 

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over 7 years ago

What's the bet that we will now get a report that effectively blames all the problems on Martin

.....or am i just too cynical?

https://thejourneyfan.blogspot.co.nz/

New Zealand Football Media Association Website of the year 2015 & 2016

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

What's the bet that we will now get a report that effectively blames all the problems on Martin

.....or am i just too cynical?

It will still make The Board look foolish. How many times after stuff ups did they say that The Board had full confidence in Martin?

In fact when they announced the inquiry a couple of weeks ago,The President stated that Martin had 100% support of The Board.

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over 7 years ago

Which was probably stretching the truth at best given that the newest two board members were elected on the back of concerns about Martin from the federations.

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over 7 years ago

Gullitesque wrote:

scribbler wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

A resignation looks far better on a CV than a fired!

I think with the investigation about to get underway he was worried about its potential scope and what might come out in regards to him... with him gone, that aspect is unlikely to be looked at as deeply, so less chance of damaging info coming forward.

Has he gone immediately, or is there a step down date? And if he goes before the investigation, I assume he can avoid answering questions about what went so wrong under his watch. 

Per the One News report, "Martin's last day at NZF was today."

I love how he decides to 'retire' and then says 'I will retire today!'....most people decide to retire and then give notice...

Martin and NZF must think the football fans of NZ were born yesterday, ridiculous from both


"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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over 7 years ago

Obviously NZF posted this in response to the threat of legal action

I remember seeing that Martin had said this and immediately thought they'd be lucky not to get sued

360footballnews.com

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over 7 years ago · edited over 7 years ago · History

Dougie Rydal wrote:

Gullitesque wrote:

scribbler wrote:

MetalLegNZ wrote:

A resignation looks far better on a CV than a fired!

I think with the investigation about to get underway he was worried about its potential scope and what might come out in regards to him... with him gone, that aspect is unlikely to be looked at as deeply, so less chance of damaging info coming forward.

Has he gone immediately, or is there a step down date? And if he goes before the investigation, I assume he can avoid answering questions about what went so wrong under his watch. 

Per the One News report, "Martin's last day at NZF was today."

I love how he decides to 'retire' and then says 'I will retire today!'....most people decide to retire and then give notice...

Martin and NZF must think the football fans of NZ were born yesterday, ridiculous from both

In defence of NZF, Shaw did say that the statement of retiring was Martin's choice of words. A few weeks ago, I was prepared to give Martin some benefit of the doubt re his handling of Heraf, and reconcile he was wasn't solely to be blame in being duped into hiring and then defending the FFs coach.

However there just now seems a tide of evidence out of various sources, that he was not up to it - and the retirement statement is plain weird - obviously trying to avoid having the word Resigned on his CV.

Gees I'd like to see Snedden in the role now. A level headed chap, who speaks plain English, with a proven track record in cricket and rugby sports admin.

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over 7 years ago

This just now from the NZF Newsletter....

New Zealand Football announced today that CEO Andy Martin is retiring. After more than four years at the helm of New Zealand Football, Mr Martin has decided to retire at the end of the month.

New Zealand Football President Deryck Shaw, in announcing the retirement, acknowledged Mr Martin’s significant contribution to the growth and development of the organisation and the game in New Zealand.

“Andy has provided strong leadership and made a huge difference to New Zealand Football over the past four years, in particular the very strong performance in 2017 as recently presented to our Annual Congress. His commercial acumen and experience has strengthened our organisation’s financial position, and we’d like to thank Andy for his valued contribution.”

Mr Martin was Chief Executive Officer of New Zealand Football from February 2014 to June 2018, during which participation numbers increased from around 135,000 (2014) to more than 150,000 (2018) and a number of other milestones were achieved, including elite women (Football Ferns) achieving equity with elite men (All Whites).

“Andy brought a real commitment to achieving our ambitious participation, financial, match official, coaching and other technical development targets alongside our elite teams performing at international events," said Mr Shaw.

Mr Martin says it is time to hang up his boots.

“It is time to focus on my wife and family and follow my beloved Liverpool FC more intently. I would like to thank the staff of New Zealand Football who have worked tirelessly over the past four years to deliver some outstanding achievements, under sometimes trying circumstances. Football in New Zealand is in good health because of them and they remain undeterred to do a good job for the sport they love”, he says.

New Zealand Football will begin the process of recruiting a new Chief Executive Officer shortly.


"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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