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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:

Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
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Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*
Is that the day you drew 0-0 with the Faroe Islands?


Wasn't that heroic scoreline 1-1?
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New Zealand Football should really negotiate with the Scottish FA a bit further.

Let's start with economy flights, a case of Tennent's and deep fried Mar's bars, and see where we go from there.

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DKP22 wrote:
New Zealand Football should really negotiate with the Scottish FA a bit further.

Let's start with economy flights, a case of Tennent's and deep fried Mar's bars, and see where we go from there.

 
 
 Add in a bag piper, the highland games and William Wallace and you're all done!

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Buffon II wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
 
Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*


Is that the day you drew 0-0 with the Faroe Islands?
 
 
Why do you always look at the negitives? Why not look at the good days, such as beating  France home and away?

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
 
Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*


Is that the day you drew 0-0 with the Faroe Islands?
 
 
Why do you always look at the negitives? Why not look at the good days, such as beating  France home and away?


I thought drawing with the Faroes was a positive for you though?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Buffon II wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
 
Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*


Is that the day you drew 0-0 with the Faroe Islands?
 
 
Why do you always look at the negitives? Why not look at the good days, such as beating  France home and away?


I thought drawing with the Faroes was a positive for you though?
 
No.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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It doesn't say Scotland lacks fire power - it says they lack star power. They are worried that because Fletcher is the only player in the EPL, not enough people will turn up to the match. I think they are underestimating the brand Scotland has in New Zealand. Tricky though. Scotland asking for a lot of money - they basically don't wanna come here unless they get some big bucks. Shame. Would draw a bigger crowd than Colombia, but maybe a bit riskier financially.
 
And New Zealand is scared of Scotland.
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Dunno if you were living here when we drew with the AWs, but I was. I'd be keeping a low profile about Scotland, just in case the game does happen.   

As for the Faroes. They were quality, the shepherd and the postman they had up front were superb and the guy with the beanie was awesome. Jag2010-01-19 23:14:56

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
DKP22 wrote:
New Zealand Football should really negotiate with the Scottish FA a bit further. Let's start with economy flights, a case of Tennent's and deep fried Mar's bars, and see where we go from there.
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�Add in a bag piper, the highland games and William Wallace and you're all done!


Shortbread. Don't forget the shortbread.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
 
Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*


The funny thing about being externally based is that you can see things differently? I'm sort of agreeing with scottishboy here, besides the monetary risk, just what are New Zealad Football doing knocking back Scotland! Almost a big-headed decision if you ask me.

Seems a bit over the top to me, NZF better not let WC qualification get to their heads. If someone was smart, this game could be a real tourist bonanza for NZ. You'd be getting a few UK expats from Australia and (perhaps west coast Canada and USA) to come to this game, plus any Scotttish people in the Pacific Island would likely cruise in for this game whilst they are 'in the area'.

Silly decision by NZF, they better not let World Cup qualification get to their heads...
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DKP22 wrote:
New Zealand Football should really negotiate with the Scottish FA a bit further.

Let's start with economy flights, a case of Tennent's and deep fried Mar's bars, and see where we go from there.



Won't happen, I know the Australian boys, when returning to Oz to play games go business class (not sure about Euro-based NZ players).

If they have a short turnaround time, they won't do it (the Scottish players I mean).

AS I said above, I wouldn't be knocking back Scotland if I was the NZ FA, almost (and I mean, almost) big-headedness on their behalf.
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diego's son wrote:

Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
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Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*
The funny thing about being externally based is that you can see things differently? I'm sort of agreeing with scottishboy here, besides the monetary risk, just what are New Zealad Football doing knocking back Scotland! Almost a big-headed decision if you ask me.Seems a bit over the top to me, NZF better not let WC qualification get to their heads. If someone was smart, this game could be a real tourist bonanza for NZ. You'd be getting a few UK expats from Australia and (perhaps west coast Canada and USA) to come to this game, plus any Scotttish people in the Pacific Island would likely cruise in for this game whilst they are 'in the area'.Silly decision by NZF, they better not let World Cup qualification get to their heads...


I'm sure half of Scotland would fly over for the game as well...it would be bigger than the World Cup.

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diego's son wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
 
Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*


The funny thing about being externally based is that you can see things differently? I'm sort of agreeing with scottishboy here, besides the monetary risk, just what are New Zealad Football doing knocking back Scotland! Almost a big-headed decision if you ask me.

Seems a bit over the top to me, NZF better not let WC qualification get to their heads. If someone was smart, this game could be a real tourist bonanza for NZ. You'd be getting a few UK expats from Australia and (perhaps west coast Canada and USA) to come to this game, plus any Scotttish people in the Pacific Island would likely cruise in for this game whilst they are 'in the area'.

Silly decision by NZF, they better not let World Cup qualification get to their heads...
 
It's actually on of the most non-silly decisions they have made. You are delusional.

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diego's son wrote:

Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
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Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*
The funny thing about being externally based is that you can see things differently? I'm sort of agreeing with scottishboy here, besides the monetary risk, just what are New Zealad Football doing knocking back Scotland! Almost a big-headed decision if you ask me.Seems a bit over the top to me, NZF better not let WC qualification get to their heads. If someone was smart, this game could be a real tourist bonanza for NZ. You'd be getting a few UK expats from Australia and (perhaps west coast Canada and USA) to come to this game, plus any Scotttish people in the Pacific Island would likely cruise in for this game whilst they are 'in the area'.Silly decision by NZF, they better not let World Cup qualification get to their heads...


You seem to be looking at it in the context of it being this game or nothing. NZF seem to have a number of options for 1 game that can be afforded (both logistically and financially) to be played in NZ in the buildup. Surely your not saying they have to jump at Scotland just because their Scotland, when they can possibly get a team that
(a) is demanding less to be brought over,
(b) will provide an opponent that will play in a similar style to what we will face in SA, and
(c) NZF believes can attract a larger gate.

The talk at the moment is Columbia, which I think would be a brilliant game, will be another game against a latino opponent that we don't often see here, and will probably be cheaper to bring out. Surely this isn't 'arrogance' and 'WC qualification going to our head'?aitkenmike2010-01-20 10:20:21
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I am certainly far from convinced that a game against Columbia would draw a larger crowd than one against Scotland, but I think, sadly, that the NZF have made the right call. It makes mopre sense for them to arrange a game which will require a smaller financial outlay and will provide a similar style of opponent to that which they'll face in SA.
 
 
 

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I agree, I think Scotland would probably be a bigger draw (particularly with the expats), hence didn't use that in my specific example with Columbia, just my general point (if that makes sense).
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Point taken.Mis-read your post. Agreed with you on the imprtant bits though. Shame, I'd have loved to have seen Soctalnd play the AWs here. Oh well.....

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Ooooh. The plot thickens

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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about 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

wtf?

You know we belong together...

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The main issue here is do Scots actually know what the word 'baffled' means?

Three for me, and two for them.

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whatever the story, you ask for trouble telling the media another federation wanted an "arm and a leg'. no need to say that, just that hadnt been able to agree on arrangements.
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Buffon II wrote:
The main issue here is do Scots actually know what the word 'baffled' means?


Course we do. It means "been hit by a baffle". Everybody knows that   

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Scotland would be a good friendly. Havent beaten them before. Just cause they didnt qualify doesnt mean there not good enough opponents. There qualifying draw had the holland team. Tough.
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seems very odd. Agree with Marius though, probably wasn't the smartest thing to say.
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Wonder if NZF simply got a call from a bunch of random Scots wanting a free holiday...
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Ok, I admit it. It was me. I got pissed and phoned up NZF for a laugh. I'm sorry.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Feverish wrote:
diego's son wrote:
Scottishbhoy wrote:
"lack fire power"
 
Pfft who do NZ think we are? We are top quality world beaters on our day.. *and when we had some decent coaches who knew what they were doing!!!*


The funny thing about being externally based is that you can see things differently? I'm sort of agreeing with scottishboy here, besides the monetary risk, just what are New Zealad Football doing knocking back Scotland! Almost a big-headed decision if you ask me.

Seems a bit over the top to me, NZF better not let WC qualification get to their heads. If someone was smart, this game could be a real tourist bonanza for NZ. You'd be getting a few UK expats from Australia and (perhaps west coast Canada and USA) to come to this game, plus any Scotttish people in the Pacific Island would likely cruise in for this game whilst they are 'in the area'.

Silly decision by NZF, they better not let World Cup qualification get to their heads...
  
It's actually on of the most non-silly decisions they have made. You are delusional.


Considering the Scottish FA had never heard of the game being organised, who is being delusional old chap?

See what I'm talking about for reference here: http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/120840,scotland-baffled-by-kiwi-claims.aspx

NOTE: In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have written what I wrote yesterday, but still, I ain't going to called delusional.
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Marius Lacatus wrote:
whatever the story, you ask for trouble telling the media another federation wanted an "arm and a leg'. no need to say that, just that hadnt been able to agree on arrangements.


Good comments Sam.
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aitkenmike wrote:

You seem to be looking at it in the context of it being this game or nothing. NZF seem to have a number of options for 1 game that can be afforded (both logistically and financially) to be played in NZ in the buildup. Surely your not saying they have to jump at Scotland just because their Scotland, when they can possibly get a team that
(a) is demanding less to be brought over,
(b) will provide an opponent that will play in a similar style to what we will face in SA, and
(c) NZF believes can attract a larger gate.

The talk at the moment is Columbia, which I think would be a brilliant game, will be another game against a latino opponent that we don't often see here, and will probably be cheaper to bring out. Surely this isn't 'arrogance' and 'WC qualification going to our head'?


No it's not, but most decent teams will ask for business class flights and so on to a game. I think in Oz most of the bigger teams (e.g. Argentina in 2007 and Holland last year) would have demanded this at the very least.

I'm simply saying that Scotland, as a pure team, would have been good to watch. If Australia played Scotland pre-WC at home it would have been good. NZF's decision surprised me, that's all.
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I found that business class thing strange as well, as I would expect that business class would be the norm. However that doesn't change my point at all.

You seemed to be arguing that just because it was Scotland offering we should be jumping at the chance to play them, no matter any other considerations, and it was arrogant and big headed to do otherwise. To me, it is sensible to weigh up all your options and takes the game that suits you best. Why in those circumstances would NZFs decision to turn down surprise you?
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aitkenmike wrote:
I found that business class thing strange as well, as I would expect that business class would be the norm. However that doesn't change my point at all.

You seemed to be arguing that just because it was Scotland offering we should be jumping at the chance to play them, no matter any other considerations, and it was arrogant and big headed to do otherwise. To me, it is sensible to weigh up all your options and takes the game that suits you best. Why in those circumstances would NZFs decision to turn down surprise you?


Scotland just seemed like a good opponent, and also, tying up a game early shows good decision making skills. Maybe it's just me, I like to make a quick decision as often as possible.


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I'd rather have the right game rather than the first game. Tying up a game early if its the wrong game does not show good decision making skills.
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I don't think their decision making skills are looking that great. Making up a pack of lies about the Scottish Football Association doesn't seem to be a great decision. Sounds like Scotland won't be particularly interested now in playing the All Whites any time for years to come.

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I'd hope the Scottish FA aren't so petulant...
 
I very much doubt it was all made up.

14/11/09

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Colvinator wrote:

I don't think their decision making skills are looking that great. Making up a pack of lies about the Scottish Football Association doesn't seem to be a great decision. Sounds like Scotland won't be particularly interested now in playing the All Whites any time for years to come.



I'm sure the All Whites won't care too much. Scotland are hardly glamarous opposition now are they?

Three for me, and two for them.

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Just out of curiosity, I saw this at the bottom of a news article about our (hopefully) impending home friendly against Honduras.

A right issue is foiling attempts to ensure the All Whites' European warm-up matches are televised by Sky. Serbia is set to be one opponent. The March 3 match against Mexico is almost certain to be televised here.


What do they mean by a right issue? Surely it's not impossible for Sky TV to get the rights to televise these games? This is the build up to possibly the biggest event in NZ sporting history.
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Buffon II wrote:
Colvinator wrote:

I don't think their decision making skills are looking that great. Making up a pack of lies about the Scottish Football Association doesn't seem to be a great decision. Sounds like Scotland won't be particularly interested now in playing the All Whites any time for years to come.



I'm sure the All Whites won't care too much. Scotland are hardly glamarous opposition now are they?


We can't help it we don't have the glamour, the history and the worldwide reputation that Honduras have, can we.

As for the AWs not caring too much?  I suspect Scotland care even less.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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timmymadden wrote:
Just out of curiosity, I saw this at the bottom of a news article about our (hopefully) impending home friendly against Honduras.

A right issue is foiling attempts to ensure the All Whites' European warm-up matches are televised by Sky. Serbia is set to be one opponent. The March 3 match against Mexico is almost certain to be televised here.


What do they mean by a right issue? Surely it's not impossible for Sky TV to get the rights to televise these games? This is the build up to possibly the biggest event in NZ sporting history.
 
Sounds like the writer of the article wants the games to be on FTA...
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