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Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Tegal wrote:
joachim wrote:
Well actually, I would say those of us who got in early are bigger fans than those who waited for the result of the first leg.

That's just my opinion though, call me crazy.

Edit: I should stress that I am not trying to vilify the thread author here, you are clearly the exception to the rule due to some horrible circumstances and I wish you all the best.
 
Ive said before,people cant always afford to pay money on a dead rubber. They could be the most hardcore football fan in the world,and still not be going if they couldnt afford it and we lost 4-0 in the first leg anyway.
 
$80 is a lot of money for some,to spend on watching the AWs get another 4-0 hiding (talking possible result,pre-first leg).
 
 
Where are you getting $80 from?
 
Someone could have quite easily bought a ticket for $29 before the first leg happened.
for 2 tickets
 
 
So it's 2 people spending $39 each, which is entirely different than 1 person spending $80.
I took it as a household,someone going would want someone to go with. But sure could just as easily go for $39,and thats not money some people could afford to part with for a dead rubber. Therefore theyd wait until after the 1st leg (as most people have done),then i guess some were slack in organising someone to go with,travel etc and missed out.
 
Im just saying i can see how people waited so long. Doesnt make them not hardcore fans or any less of a fan than others who bought their tickets early.
Tegal2009-10-20 00:37:04

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Yeah, this baiting of people who didn't get their tickets early is pretty crap.
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Yeah, agreed, people do what they have to do. I waited until after the 1st leg, as i didn't want to travel up from Christchurch if the lads were 4-0 down from the first leg (and to be honest, given the conditions, that was a distinct possibility) It would have been too depressing (if i lived in Wellers i would have gone to the game regardless) So had to scramble and spend ages on the net to get flights for me, and a friend to come down from Auckland. Everything is now set up nicely. BlattersBalls2009-10-20 09:01:38
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Does it make them less hardcore than those who bought on day one? Yes.

Are you a twat if you care and feel obliged to point that out to them? Yes.
 
At the end of the day the more the merrier, and I don't care when people buy/bought tickets as long as they do/did.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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From Glading in the Dom Post:
 
I've also just got to check with the Bahrainis because they want more seats, too, so that's a bit of an issue."
 
Haven't we given them seats already?
Is there a rule about how many we have to give?
More seats for NZ fans  please.
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Pretty sure there would be FIFA statutes on obligations for visiting fans.  Having said that though, it seems odd that they would have more than a thousand travelling when they didn't even sell out the home leg.

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Hard News wrote:
Pretty sure there would be FIFA statutes on obligations for visiting fans.  Having said that though, it seems odd that they would have more than a thousand travelling when they didn't even sell out the home leg.

During the preliminary competition, the relevant host association is responsible for the ticketing. It shall set aside an appropriate number � to be fixed by mutual agreement � of complimentary and purchasable tickets for the visiting association. At least five representatives from the visiting association shall be seated in the VIP box. The host association shall, upon request and free of charge, provide FIFA with 10 (ten) VIP box tickets and up to 40 (forty) category 1 tickets for each match. Such tickets shall be provided to FIFA at least 30 days before the match.

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Hard News wrote:
Pretty sure there would be FIFA statutes on obligations for visiting fans.  Having said that though, it seems odd that they would have more than a thousand travelling when they didn't even sell out the home leg.
 
there will be next to no Bahrainians there

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That is what i would have thought but Gaffer Glading says they have asked for more tickets and I thought they already had a bay.

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Was there any restriction on who bought those tickets in the Bahrani bay?

Always some fun to be had in the away end.
sanday2009-10-20 10:38:36
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sanday wrote:

Was there any restriction on who bought those tickets in the Bahrani bay?

Always some fun to be had in the away end.
Galding said on the FTS that there wasn't any restrictions on who bought there.  Apparently Bahrain requested 800 tickets but there was only 500 in the bay left at that stage.  Hence they are trying to find an additional 300.
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2ndBest wrote:
sanday wrote:

Was there any restriction on who bought those tickets in the Bahrani bay?

Always some fun to be had in the away end.
Galding said on the FTS that there wasn't any restrictions on who bought there.  Apparently Bahrain requested 800 tickets but there was only 500 in the bay left at that stage.  Hence they are trying to find an additional 300.
Thanks for the info.
So we made a good effort to take the away end.
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Think he said they didn't do a geo block because they may have been Barhainians living here that would go.  Then realised it became a problem once people named smith and jones were buying tickets in the away section. 
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I wasn't baiting anyone or saying anyone was less hardcore than anyone else, I was simply picking up on the cost issue when Tegal said people might not want to spend $80 when tickets couldn't been bought for $51 less than that at any time all the way up to the day of the first leg.
 
People who live out of Wellington, fair enough they waited to see the score of the first leg before booking transport, hotels, and tickets. People in Wellington who are now without a ticket? No excuses.
Steve-O2009-10-20 19:40:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Steve-O wrote:
 
People who live out of Wellington, fair enough they waited to see the score of the first leg before booking transport, hotels, and tickets. People in Wellington who are now without a ticket? No excuses.



There are a Myriad of reasons people don't have a ticket Steve-O.



This isn't directed at you, but while it can be 'fun' to act smug whilst holding your tickets for a bit, it is not very helpful.

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic 
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mikecj wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
 
People who live out of Wellington, fair enough they waited to see the score of the first leg before booking transport, hotels, and tickets. People in Wellington who are now without a ticket? No excuses.



There are a Myriad of reasons people don't have a ticket Steve-O.



This isn't directed at you, but while it can be 'fun' to act smug whilst holding your tickets for a bit, it is not very helpful.
 
Ok, people who really wanted to go to the game, and had no other plans that weekend, have no excuse really. Finding $30-$40 in 4 weeks (guessing there was 4 weeks or so between tickets going on sale and first leg - can't remember) really isn't that difficult.
 
To be fair though, I've noticed that tickets for all events in NZ bar a very select few are generally very slow to sell out, if they even sell out at all. I guess some people were caught on the hop and thought they'd be able to buy the tickets much later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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What about people who really wanted to go to the game if it was a competition,but if we were 4-0 down theyd rather spend their money on other more important things,or something else to do that weekend?
 
Sick of all the high and mighty stuff coming from people at the moment. And yes,i bought my ticket before the 1st leg,so im not even taking personal offence.

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Tegal wrote:
What about people who really wanted to go to the game if it was a competition,but if we were 4-0 down theyd rather spend their money on other more important things,or something else to do that weekend?
 
Sick of all the high and mighty stuff coming from people at the moment. And yes,i bought my ticket before the 1st leg,so im not even taking personal offence.
 
4-0?
 
There's always a chance. Early goal? Say 2-0 up at half time? Anything is possible in football and I don't believe someone who REALLY wanted to go to the game would just go and do something else that night believing the tie was completely over.
 
Nothing to do with high and mighty, more about supporting your country, and I'm not even a Kiwi!
 
What would've been interesting would've been if the 2 legs had been scheduled closer together (why they were not, I don't know).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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a chance from 4-0 down...your kidding right? To suggest that shouldnt put people off is ridiculous. It is high and mighty to say that you bhought your ticket before the first leg,so your a bigger football fan.
 
Simple fact is not everyone can afford to pay money to see a dead rubber game...especialy for families
Tegal2009-10-20 21:20:31

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Because they didn't need to be.

In the past a short turnaround has been because the decision on who is in the play-offs hasn't been made until late.  Seeing as it was done with plenty of time to spare there was no need to rush it through in 3 days, particularly with the travel between Bahrain and New Zealand no simple task.

They just split it across two international weekends which logically it should always be if timelines allow.

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Tegal wrote:
a chance from 4-0 down...your kidding right? To suggest that shouldnt put people off is ridiculous. It is high and mighty to say that you bhought your ticket before the first leg,so your a bigger football fan.
 
Simple fact is not everyone can afford to pay money to see a dead rubber game...especialy for families
 
It's happened before, several times. Everyone said before those games that the other team didn't stand a chance either.
 
Not sure why people would think NZ would be getting hammered 4-0 in the first leg anyway? I personally thought maybe 2-0 at worst, at which point NZ would definitely have a chance.
 
Maybe the people who bought tickets beforehand ARE bigger football fans? Could simply be a statement of fact, doesn't need to be taken as someone being 'high and mighty'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Hard News wrote:
Because they didn't need to be.

In the past a short turnaround has been because the decision on who is in the play-offs hasn't been made until late.  Seeing as it was done with plenty of time to spare there was no need to rush it through in 3 days, particularly with the travel between Bahrain and New Zealand no simple task.

They just split it across two international weekends which logically it should always be if timelines allow.
 
Fair enough.
 
As I say though, would've been interesting to see how the ticket sales would've gone. A mad rush on the Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday, or would more people have gotten in earlier?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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I give up. Have fun being narrow minded.

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Tegal wrote:
I give up. Have fun being narrow minded.
 
How am I being narrow minded? You're the one who thinks teams can't come back and win 2nd legs of games.
Steve-O2009-10-20 21:29:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Just because you bought your ticket straight away,doesnt mean everyone else should have too. Clearly a vast majority of people waited for the 1st leg result before buying their tickets,it just made sense for them to do so.
 
You never see outside your own little box or opinion. Not just with this.
 
Edit,reply to your edit "the one who thinks teams can't come back and win 2nd legs" that doesnt make me narrow minded,its just a matter of odds,the betting agencies would have been putting long odds on NZ at that point,and clearly a huge amount of people would have been put off going to the game had we been losing 4-0
Tegal2009-10-20 21:33:17

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People have been caught out as well. Tickets selling out this fast for a football game in New Zealand hasn't been seen in my living memory. Even the LA Galaxy had a few empty bays on game day.

The All Black test matches in Wellington weren't sold out a month out from kick off.

Agressive Advertising, hype - these things in the past may have, in some way tricked some people who have been looking after the pennies in these times - waiting until they have the money before taking a 20% P/A hit on their credit card to book some tickets.

I think most people thought that this game would be 90% full to a sell out. I don't think anyone who isn't in the inner circle of football fans in this country could have predicted such a demand for tickets.

It is a wonderful thing to see, but I do feel for those who will miss out.

Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic 
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Tegal wrote:
Just because you bought your ticket straight away,doesnt mean everyone else should have too. Clearly a vast majority of people waited for the 1st leg result before buying their tickets,it just made sense for them to do so.
 
You never see outside your own little box or opinion. Not just with this.
 
Edit,reply to your edit "the one who thinks teams can't come back and win 2nd legs" that doesnt make me narrow minded,its just a matter of odds,the betting agencies would have been putting long odds on NZ at that point,and clearly a huge amount of people would have been put off going to the game had we been losing 4-0
 
I never said everyone should buy their ticket straight away. I only responded to your point on this thread re: cost, which I personally didn't see as very prohibitive for most people given that the ticket prices are VERY reasonable.
 
Additionally, the tickets didn't sell out for another week after the first leg, so those that waited and missed out were still too slow to get them in the end.
 
And all I was also saying is that perhaps people that bought tickets before the first leg ARE bigger football fans - they did buy their tickets whether the team might be 4-0 down or not. This doesn't make them/us better people or 'high and mighty', just bigger football fans!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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