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Jordan Match (now with Sky TV coverage)

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Jordan Match (now with Sky TV coverage)
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Never thought an All Whites game being canned could be such terrific news.

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Gotta be good news at the mo, but assuming their still planning a match on that date still sucks for the phoenix adelaide game
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/local-sport/2761206/All-Whites-stars-in-form

Meanwhile, New Zealand Football chief executive Michael Glading confirmed there would only be one warmup match, against Jordan in Amman on September 9, after the Iraq friendly fell through.

It means there will be no clash between the All Whites and the Phoenix's A-League match against Adelaide on September 4.


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Fantastic
You know we belong together...

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New Zealand Football: Fallon and McGlinchey join All Whites fold

August 19, 2009

AUCKLAND � Plymouth Argyle striker Rory Fallon and Central Coast midfielder Michael McGlinchey have been named in an 18-man All Whites squad to play a friendly against Jordan in Amman on September 9.

Gisborne-born Fallon (27) and Wellington-born McGlinchey (22) have represented England and Scotland respectively at age group levels, and missed their previous window to switch allegiance to New Zealand before they turned 21.

But the recent removal of the age limit by FIFA gives All Whites coach Ricki Herbert the chance to take a last minute look at the pair, subject to official FIFA approval, with a view to selecting them for a monumental World Cup playoff against Bahrain or Saudi Arabia in October (away) and November (home).

�It may be late but they�re both playing exceptionally well, playing regularly for their clubs and that�s important,� Herbert said.

�It�s great that we�ve had the chance to bring them into the fold albeit close to the qualifier.�

With Celtic�s Chris Killen and Gold Coast United�s Shane Smeltz both in goal scoring form for their clubs, Fallon � son of 1982 All Whites assistant coach Kevin � faces strong competition for a starting spot, but Herbert says that�s the sort of selection dilemma he wants.

�In all honesty it�s going to pit the best against the best. All three are in excellent form and currently playing. So whilst they are all very close in terms of a selection process, it�s a fantastic position for the country to be in not just now but in the future with three such talented players to choose from.�

McGlinchey began his career at Celtic, where he made his league debut as a teenager in 2005, and Herbert is excited about what the attack-minded midfielder offers.

�I�ll be really interested to see Michael from the international point of view, Herbert said.

�He�s settled into the Central Coast team extremely well, and he�s come from a big club at Celtic where the grounding and framework of his career would have been very solid. From the early signs in the A-League, and from talking to [Central Coast manager] Lawrie McKinna, people have been very impressed.

�He�ll add pace for us coming out of midfield and technically he�s very good and gets on the ball well.�

Blackburn Rovers defender Ryan Nelsen has been reinstalled as captain after missing the FIFA Confederations Cup with a calf tear, while five non travelling reserves have been named in a signal from Herbert that the door remains open for players to force their way into Herbert�s World Cup playoff plans.

Jeremy Brockie and Jarrod Smith were not considered due to injury.

The trip to Jordan offers the All Whites an early taste of the conditions and challenges they�ll face on the away leg of the World Cup playoff. While the All Whites are in Jordan, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia square off twice, with the winner hosting New Zealand on October 10 and visiting Wellington for the return leg on November 14.

�Firstly we�re going to be in the geographic area, with an important trip to Bahrain or Saudi Arabia coming up.

�The travel component gets everyone adjusted again to what we�ll face in October and it�s a chance for us to get the side together. Jordan will be excellent competition for us having just narrowly missed out on the World Cup opportunities themselves.

�The strength of opposition is there, but more importantly for us it�s a chance to acclimatise a little bit just out from the first leg of the playoff.�

Observance of Ramadan in the region has forced an unusual kick-off time of 10.30pm local time, and also limited options of a second friendly in the region after New Zealand Football refused a request from the Iraq FA to move a planned international from Amman to Arbil in Iraq.

New Zealand Squad to Jordan, September 2009

Goalkeepers:
Mark PASTON (Wellington Phoenix � 20/0)
Jimmy BANNATYNE (Petone � 5/0)

Defenders:
Andrew BOYENS (New York Red Bulls � 13/0)
Tony LOCHHEAD (Wellington Phoenix � 18/0)
David MULLIGAN (Wellington Phoenix � 29/3)
Ryan NELSEN (Captain, Blackburn Rovers � 38/9)
Aaron SCOTT (Unattached � 4/0)
Ben SIGMUND (Wellington Phoenix � 9/1)
Ivan VICELICH (Central United � 69/7)

Midfielders:
Andy BARRON (Miramar Rangers � 11/1)
Leo BERTOS (Wellington Phoenix � 27/0)
Tim BROWN (Wellington Phoenix � 24/0)
Simon ELLIOTT (San Jose Earthquakes � 64/8)
Michael MCGLINCHEY (Central Coast Mariners � 0/0)

Forwards:
Rory FALLON (Plymouth Argyle � 0/0)
Chris KILLEN (Celtic � 24/17)
Shane SMELTZ (Gold Coast United � 28/15)
Chris WOOD (West Bromwich Albion � 3/0)

Not considered due to injury:
Jarrod SMITH (Unattached)
Jeremy BROCKIE (North Queensland Fury)

Non-travelling reserves:
Kris BRIGHT (Shrewsbury Town)
Duncan OUGHTON (Columbus Crew)
Chris JAMES (Tampere United)
Jeremy CHRISTIE (Unattached)
Jacob SPOONLEY (Glenfield Rovers)

New Zealand v Jordan
International Friendly
King Abdullah Stadium, Amman
September 9, 2009 (7.30am Sept 10 NZT)

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I've just informed Bazza much to his surprise ha

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Is that because he was scanning the list for Judas Barron?
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The squad for the game against Jordan has been named however. It seems interesting the Chris James has been named as a non-traveling reserve

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Having just had a look at the squad i am quite happy with our attack and Defence, but not overly with the midfield.
 
I can not understand why Barron would be selected ahead of Oughten and James particularly. I know midfield is our weakest area of strength, but it doesn't help when you do not select the best players there.
 
No offence to Barron but i dont see what he really offers the all whites that the other two couldn't and more.
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For a start he can run round the block without getting stitch.

Oughten unlucky but is really a defender not a midfielder so they're not in direct competition.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Very surprised there is no place in the squad for James and Oughton... both should be in the starting lineup in my humble opinion...
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Scott is unattached still? Isn't any A-League team looking for a defender? Thought that Christie has gone to India?

A decent team.

We certainly need McGlinchey (very Central Midfielder) there. Barron is obviously there to provide some defensive midfield pressure that Oughten (Defender rather that Midfielder) and James (attacking midfielder) can't do as well.

So Elliot is our main defensive midfielder, McGlinchey is our main central midfielder and Bertos as our main Attacking Midfielder. And then just add the fourth midfielder in either of the three roles to strength the midfield to combat the other team. Now Brown is used as defensive/central midfielder and Barron is used as central/attacking midfielder, I think. We could have Fallon who can be used as attacking midfielder/striker as a viable option.

We need a stronger midfield engine and for once, we have more options than ever. With Fallon and McGlinchey on board and suddenly we have our weakest block in the field i.e. the Midfield, looking more solid in the starting line-up.

Plus Nelson is back and Vicelich has confirmed his return. We are tighter in the back and we have people who can pass the ball cleanly giving more attacking options as well.

Yeah shame about Oughten, I thought that he would do better than Mulligan as a defender whereas Mulligan is slightly more a midfielder than a defender. Oughten or Mulligan? Hard to chose.
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Lineup? For me...
 
Paston
Scott-Nelsen-Sigmund-Lochhead
McGlinchey-Brown-Elliott-Bertos
Killen-Smeltz
 
Fallon to get on at some stage.
 
Whatever side Ricki chooses (and you'd have to think it'll be his strongest side to start the match), I'd be tempted to give them as close to 90 minutes together as possible, as that will almost certainly be the side that plays Saudi/Bahrain a month later.
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Well it's under lights at 10:30pm because of their Ramadan Observance. That should be 7:30am.

So is TVNZ showing this live??
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Sure hope so.
 
One of Oughton and James should be in there for Mulligan, both are very unlucky not to be in there.
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Lineup? For me...
 
Paston
Scott-Nelsen-Sigmund-Lochhead
McGlinchey-Brown-Elliott-Bertos
Killen-Smeltz
 
Fallon to get on at some stage.
 
Whatever side Ricki chooses (and you'd have to think it'll be his strongest side to start the match), I'd be tempted to give them as close to 90 minutes together as possible, as that will almost certainly be the side that plays Saudi/Bahrain a month later.


looks pretty much right,

would  be tempted to have sigmund on RB and Vicelich in CB, siggy would do a gerat job down the right I reckon

If we could get Reid our defence would be done!!!
think we would really need McGlinchey in the centre also, maybe elliott as DM and him as CAM
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smittyz11 wrote:
Lineup? For me...
 
Paston
Scott-Nelsen-Sigmund-Lochhead
McGlinchey-Brown-Elliott-Bertos
Killen-Smeltz
 
Fallon to get on at some stage.
 
Whatever side Ricki chooses (and you'd have to think it'll be his strongest side to start the match), I'd be tempted to give them as close to 90 minutes together as possible, as that will almost certainly be the side that plays Saudi/Bahrain a month later.


looks pretty much right,

would  be tempted to have sigmund on RB and Vicelich in CB, siggy would do a gerat job down the right I reckon

If we could get Reid our defence would be done!!!
think we would really need McGlinchey in the centre also, maybe elliott as DM and him as CAM
 
Yeah, I thought about both of those things.  I just think taking Siggy out of CB breaks up one of the strongest parts of the side - the CB pairing....but even so, I'd be tempted to play him at RB just to fit Vicelich in somewhere., and also because Scott is still relatively inexperienced (although I thought he did OK against Iraq).
 
And there's no natural right midfielder in this team without Brockie or James, so I've just put McGlinchey in there as part of a midfield four...unfortunately he, Elliott and Brown are all central midfielders, and he seems the most likely one to push wide of those three.
 
 
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Didnt Oughton play a couple of games at RW for his club recently, and I know Fallon can play there as well. If Barron plays RW and mulligan probably at RB, we will get carved up on that side. Pitty James looks unfit and cant get a game for his club. But other than that, our team looks decent, good to see alot of striking options. Wood played well for WBA today, setting up the second goal.
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Shane wrote:
Didnt Oughton play a couple of games at RW for his club recently, and I know Fallon can play there as well. If Barron plays RW and mulligan probably at RB, we will get carved up on that side. Pitty James looks unfit and cant get a game for his club. But other than that, our team looks decent, good to see alot of striking options. Wood played well for WBA today, setting up the second goal.
 
I think Oughton in particular is unlucky not to be there.
 
From the 2-2 draw with Wales in May 2007 up to the Confeds Cup this year, he started eight of the ten matches the AW's played (including all five of the six WCQ's against Fiji, Vanuatu and NC - the one he didn't play in was the dead rubber against Fiji), but he then only featured once in the four matches in South Africa (including the Italy game) and that was as a sub against SA.
 
Not exactly sure what he's done to fall out of favour.
 
 
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thinking about it I reckon if we play that we can move Mcglinchey central for elliott or brown in 2nd half and play as Shane said Fallon RW for last 20mins or so. OR

                  Paston
         Vicelich    Nelsen  
Siggy                           Lochy
                  Elliott
   Mcglinchey        Bertos
                
                  Fallon
       Smeltz         Killen

yeah I know Doubt it
                


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I thought that McGlinchey naturally prefers left side and so would be on the left side and Bertos prefers right side than left side so should be on the right side. Bertos plays on the left because there is no one capable to do left side and there are plenty of players that can play right side. With McGlinchey on the field, bertos will have the freedom to play on his favourite side which the right side of the field so I would think you should consider swapping McGlinchey and Bertos position.

Either way you see it, I think we will see McGlinchey, Bertos, Fallon changing their positions and using their speed from Elliots holding midfielding and giving Smeltz and Killen plenty of ball service. Also for Killen and Smeltz, they have players to set up for shots from the midfield or simply a 1-2 running through the centre or setting them up for a wing cross attack.

So in the game, I like to see Bertos having good ball support from Elliot, Siggy, Vicelich and Nelson on the right lateral midfields and McGlinchey getting the same from Lochy, Elliot, Nelson and Vicelich. Both Bertos and McGlinchey knocking the ball to Fallon, Smeltz and Killen for the final push through the attacking third.

I am really excited about this team line-up. All I am worried about is the lack of depth and experience in the bench.

Boylans (central defence) and Scott (lateral defence) who are capable to slot in for short stint in the defence. Then there is a drop in quality to Mulligan (although his fitness has improve) who is better used as a holding midfielder. Then you have hard mongrel workers like Barron (can be used as attacking midfielder but probably better as a central midfielder) and Brown (defensive midfielder rather than the occasional central midfielder) for the midfield engine which is also a slight drop for clean ball turnovers compare to who's in the starting line-up. Really, they are ideal for closing shops scenarios and so have that impact type from the bench. Then for the forwards, there is Wood who is performing well for WBA and is still a bit wet behind the ears like Scott for international games.

Hopefully Herbert start with the best line up and then give the second best players a run in the second half for experience. That way, there is no set backs in letting a goal in at the beginning of the game and playing catch up.AllWhitebelievr2009-08-19 21:48:55
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We certainly need McGlinchey (very Central Midfielder) there. Barron is obviously there to provide some defensive midfield pressure that Oughten (Defender rather that Midfielder) and James (attacking midfielder) can't do as well.

So Elliot is our main defensive midfielder, McGlinchey is our main central midfielder and Bertos as our main Attacking Midfielder. And then just add the fourth midfielder in either of the three roles to strength the midfield to combat the other team. Now Brown is used as defensive/central midfielder and Barron is used as central/attacking midfielder, I think. We could have Fallon who can be used as attacking midfielder/striker as a viable option.

We need a stronger midfield engine and for once, we have more options than ever.

Yeah shame about Oughten, I thought that he would do better than Mulligan as a defender whereas Mulligan is slightly more a midfielder than a defender. Oughten or Mulligan? Hard to chose.
 
Actually, have been following Duncan Oughton's career since he impressed me when he played in the old Southern League (which covered the whole South Island except Nelson, Marlborough and West Coast) for Caversham in the mid-90s whilst he was attending Otago Uni. Most people don't realise that back then he was an OUT-AND-OUT STRIKER!!!- one of the top-scorers in the Southern League at the time. So, he definitely has real attacking ability!
 
Only later did he develop into a central midfielder, which is where he's played all his Major League Soccer career in the States. Except, recently he's made a good fist of the right wing when called upon (see below). He's played as a defender for the All Whites at times, but that's not his best position.
 
It's true that neither Oughton nor Elliott have seen much game time this season in MLS, but in Oughton's case, that's not due to any lack of ability or application- just a tactical decision of his coach Warzycha, in a successful side at the top of their Conference. He has performed really well in the last month when called upon.
 
I'm surprised Barron and Brown have been preferred over Oughton- Barron doesn't play at a high enough level and Brown looked out of his depth at the Confeds Cup in  June.
 
 
 
edit - sorry, had to delete the news story about Oughton to fix formatting.
 
 
Smithy2009-08-20 10:09:22

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Actually, have been following Duncan Oughton's career since he impressed me when he played in the old Southern League (which covered the whole South Island except Nelson, Marlborough and West Coast) for Caversham in the mid-90s whilst he was attending Otago Uni. Most people don't realise that back then he was an OUT-AND-OUT STRIKER!!!- one of the top-scorers in the Southern League at the time. So, he definitely has real attacking ability!
 
Only later did he develop into a central midfielder, which is where he's played all his Major League Soccer career in the States. Except, recently he's made a good fist of the right wing when called upon (see below). He's played as a defender for the All Whites at times, but that's not his best position.
 
It's true that neither Oughton nor Elliott have seen much game time this season in MLS, but in Oughton's case, that's not due to any lack of ability or application- just a tactical decision of his coach Warzycha, in a successful side at the top of their Conference. He has performed really well in the last month when called upon.
 
I'm surprised Barron and Brown have been preferred over Oughton- Barron doesn't play at a high enough level and Brown looked out of his depth at the Confeds Cup in  June. 
 
Well Browny is the team captain I believe so clearly Ricki disagrees with you about him.
 
Oughton definitely unlucky but perhaps the fact that he's either a central midfielder or central defender counted against him.  Not likely to get on ahead of McGlinchy/Brown/Elliot in the centre of midfield or Sigmund/Vicelich/Nelsen at centre back, so simply not required.
 
Pretty sure they see Barron as utility cover across the park - Ricki's used him at his preferred central midfield (vs Wales), at right midfield (vs Italy) and for the Phoenix in some pre-season games at right back and right midfield.  Agree that the level he's playing at isn't great but he's been in training with the Phoenix so I guess has been doing enough there to show he's still up to the level required.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Totally agree guys, couldnt believe oughton left out in confeds cup, and now this, our right flank is a worry.
 
Id say Play bertos on the right and get tony L up and down the left. Think real madrid, when they played effectively no left midfielder because Roberto Carlos did two jobs. Obviously we dont have that quality, but similar principle.
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team   for away  leg   4-5-1  attacking minded  team ,  take  ball and keep possession
 
paston
 
sigmund,  vicellich, nelsen, lochead
 
           mulligan    brown  
                   
                     elliot
  bertos                                 mcglinchey             
 
                killen/smeltz/fallon          
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Smithy wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:
 
Actually, have been following Duncan Oughton's career since he impressed me when he played in the old Southern League (which covered the whole South Island except Nelson, Marlborough and West Coast) for Caversham in the mid-90s whilst he was attending Otago Uni. Most people don't realise that back then he was an OUT-AND-OUT STRIKER!!!- one of the top-scorers in the Southern League at the time. So, he definitely has real attacking ability!
 
Only later did he develop into a central midfielder, which is where he's played all his Major League Soccer career in the States. Except, recently he's made a good fist of the right wing when called upon (see below). He's played as a defender for the All Whites at times, but that's not his best position.
 
It's true that neither Oughton nor Elliott have seen much game time this season in MLS, but in Oughton's case, that's not due to any lack of ability or application- just a tactical decision of his coach Warzycha, in a successful side at the top of their Conference. He has performed really well in the last month when called upon.
 
I'm surprised Barron and Brown have been preferred over Oughton- Barron doesn't play at a high enough level and Brown looked out of his depth at the Confeds Cup in  June. 
 
Well Browny is the team captain I believe so clearly Ricki disagrees with you about him.
 
Oughton definitely unlucky but perhaps the fact that he's either a central midfielder or central defender counted against him.  Not likely to get on ahead of McGlinchy/Brown/Elliot in the centre of midfield or Sigmund/Vicelich/Nelsen at centre back, so simply not required.
 
Pretty sure they see Barron as utility cover across the park - Ricki's used him at his preferred central midfield (vs Wales), at right midfield (vs Italy) and for the Phoenix in some pre-season games at right back and right midfield.  Agree that the level he's playing at isn't great but he's been in training with the Phoenix so I guess has been doing enough there to show he's still up to the level required.


I'm pretty sure now that Nelsen is back hes got the capitan's armband again
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Oughton is our version of Alan Ball.

I remember he played a few games for Otago University and was running the midfield. Quite a hard working attacking midfield if i recall rightly. I am sure he was there when I broke my left knee . . . [enter the weeping violin]

I have say that he clashes with players doing the same role on the field. Although he does not lose the ball, I have noticed that his movement into space was too close to other players movement to space so as a team it was ineffective use of the space. I would have thought that he make just as good of a utility player as Barron and Mulligan. In a different formation with defined positional role than what we usually used in the AWs, he could have been a key player rather a squad member.

However, I have a feeling that Ricki is not looking to throw disruption to some players professional set-up for a one-off game and has the coverage he needs for the single friendly game. With Mulligan in the Nix and Barron training along side with the Phoenix.

Anyway, it is the depth in specialist players that I would have a concern with. It would be nice for the utility players to stick to a couple of position to focus on, rather than being spread across the park. Because if we get to the world cup finals, the extended squad and specifically the bench will make a difference in such a tournament. Utility players lack skill depth when they come on against specialised players. It loses the edge.
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Don't care if it's been stated before but Mcglinchey HAS to start. No matter what. it will be insane if he doesn't

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Also note that Stevenn Old is not anywhere in the squad, and to be fair we do have a lot of cover for that CB position. Does that mean he might not make the squad in October qualifiers as well? I know he has had is good and bad moments in the past, I just like seeing our squad with players from teams in reasonable/good leagues. I am sure it strikes more fear into the opposition to see a player in Scottish Premiership compared to A-league.
 
I know this is not a reason to pick him, just my stupid idea. Not sure if anyone else thinks like that?

If we build it, they will come...

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Don't care if it's been stated before but Mcglinchey HAS to start. No matter what. it will be insane if he doesn't

 
Agree with you on this one, sometimes i think Ricki can be  a bit too conservative or likes to stick to his guns. So as Mcglinchey is new to the squad he might start him on the bench.
 
Although I think in the past I have been surprised Chris JAmes has not been in starting lineup, but then you find out later his fitness was not 100%.
 
So hopefully in this instance McGlinchey will start.

If we build it, they will come...

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Bring back Che Bunce
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Oughton is our version of Alan Ball.

I remember he played a few games for Otago University and was running the midfield. Quite a hard working attacking midfield if i recall rightly. I am sure he was there when I broke my left knee . . . [enter the weeping violin]

I have say that he clashes with players doing the same role on the field. Although he does not lose the ball, I have noticed that his movement into space was too close to other players movement to space so as a team it was ineffective use of the space. I would have thought that he make just as good of a utility player as Barron and Mulligan. In a different formation with defined positional role than what we usually used in the AWs, he could have been a key player rather a squad member.

However, I have a feeling that Ricki is not looking to throw disruption to some players professional set-up for a one-off game and has the coverage he needs for the single friendly game. With Mulligan in the Nix and Barron training along side with the Phoenix.

Anyway, it is the depth in specialist players that I would have a concern with. It would be nice for the utility players to stick to a couple of position to focus on, rather than being spread across the park. Because if we get to the world cup finals, the extended squad and specifically the bench will make a difference in such a tournament. Utility players lack skill depth when they come on against specialised players. It loses the edge.
 
See a report singing Oughton's praises when used recently on the right of midfield on MLSnet.com (the official site of Major League Soccer- the best site for news on Kiwis playing against Becks in MLS):
 
 "Enter a wing man that would have made Tom cruise proud in the movie 'Top Gun'..."
Seems Oughton successfully controlled the tempo of the game and had a hand in creating some goals for Columbus. He hasn't played much this year, but then neither has Simon Elliott had much game time at San Jose (Elliott hasn't played since mid-July):
 
 
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LondonChris wrote:
I am sure it strikes more fear into the opposition to see a player in Scottish Premiership compared to A-league.


The gap between these two leagues isn't anywhere near as wide as you think.
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el grapadura wrote:
LondonChris wrote:
I am sure it strikes more fear into the opposition to see a player in Scottish Premiership compared to A-league.


The gap between these two leagues isn't anywhere near as wide as you think.
 
I know, but the prestige of the SPL is higher than the a-league/mls. Talk about famous teams in the world and two from the spl might get mentioned, zero from A-league or mls would get mentioned. Thats all i mean. I know is trivial.

If we build it, they will come...

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It's pretty dissapointing that both Oughton and James have been left out. James is a pretty handy attacking player especially coming off the bench. I can also see Oughton as a useful utility player and i would have thought him a good partner with Elliott in the middle of the park.
Has this got anything to do with cost?
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LondonChris wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
LondonChris wrote:
I am sure it strikes more fear into the opposition to see a player in Scottish Premiership compared to A-league.
The gap between these two leagues isn't anywhere near as wide as you think.

�

I know, but the prestige of the SPL is higher than the a-league/mls. Talk about famous teams in the world and two from the spl might get mentioned, zero from A-league or mls would get mentioned. Thats all i mean. I know is trivial.


OK then, carry on.
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I doubt that Ryan Nelsen will be playing in this game, having been injured on his knee again in the weekend

His coach said today about it, " Ryan Nelsen , his knee has flared up again, so that will be some considerable time." and the match is only 2.5 weeks away.

Bloody nuisance, can only hope he gets right for the playoffs


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
smeltzfan1 wrote:
Has this got anything to do with cost?
 
 Valid point, I really hope not. I'm sure any player would fly themselves around the world for friendly (middle east) and qualifiers (thera and here)
 
 
 
Oh Wellington is wonderful. We got the wind, the rain and the phoenix. Oh Wellington is wonderful.
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