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almost 11 years ago

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

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almost 11 years ago

valeo wrote:

Decent points by American commentator. Billingsly running into blind alleys by himself

I had not noticed it until he said it. He is quite right.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 11 years ago

Zelalem is class

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

well I don't think Hudson is going to find many players in this lot who are going to get us to the 2018 World Cup. Bill obviously will be in the side, Wyne I would be willing to give another chance as our left full back stocks are dire. Anyone else?


Auckland will rise once more

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almost 11 years ago

DKP22 wrote:

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

Edge? He has been played like a 2nd rate fiddle by Jamieson all night till he got dragged.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 11 years ago

Might as well bring Rufer on for Dyer, n o?

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

Global Game wrote:
According to Hudson a lot of these boys are going to Russia in 2018. # alignment

As tourists 

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almost 11 years ago

I agree with you for this match, but in general he would be one of the better players in the squad.

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almost 11 years ago

Global Game wrote:
According to Hudson a lot of these boys are going to Russia in 2018. # alignment

As tourists 

Nah we will qualify when UEFA boycotts and OFC get 2 direct spots

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almost 11 years ago

Think the most disappointing thing is there is no real excitement with this team it seems - no Rojas/Kosta/Boyd/Thomas types coming through; they all seem on the same low level except BIll.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

So what is the story now, if we beat Myanmar are we definitely through?

Normo's coming home

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almost 11 years ago

unlikely


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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

james dean wrote:

So what is the story now, if we beat Myanmar are we definitely through?

USA and Ukraine will go through, no? Depends on GD?

Cant see us scoring let alone winning a game tbh

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

I think Ukraine's convincing victory would edge them over us.

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almost 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

I do not get all the angst. The USA team plays at a different level because their senior team does too. Thier coaching quality and also available player pool reflects this. Our guys are guilty of something serious IMHO though: ball watching, and lack of movement. Individual player quality and good coaching/ drilling makes up for the rest of the reasons we are down, and (so far in this tournament) goalless.

So you don't get why people think this team is playing poorly, then highlight the reasons that they are playing poorly? What?

Yeah, I am poor at multitaskin typing while trying to watch the game. What I was aiming at saying was that USA are playing well (good passing precision, individual speed, organisation) and we are not playing well (missed passing, ball watching, hopeful kicks forward). However, I was also stating the reasons why I would expect the US to win this game anyway and hence I am not angsting too much.  The AWs losing does not stop me from watching it. 

In contrast, I was angsting a lot during our game against Ukraine. We might have won that particular game, in any case it was close. Our poor performance then was the difference. Here, not so much: if we played better it might be a 1:2 loss or at best a draw.

Does that answer your question?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 11 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

I do not get all the angst. The USA team plays at a different level because their senior team does too. Thier coaching quality and also available player pool reflects this. Our guys are guilty of something serious IMHO though: ball watching, and lack of movement. Individual player quality and good coaching/ drilling makes up for the rest of the reasons we are down, and (so far in this tournament) goalless.

So you don't get why people think this team is playing poorly, then highlight the reasons that they are playing poorly? What?

Yeah, I am poor at multitaskin typing while trying to watch the game. What I was aiming at saying was that USA are playing well (good passing precision, individual speed, organisation) and we are not playing well (missed passing, ball watching, hopeful kicks forward). However, I was also stating the reasons why I would expect the US to win this game anyway and hence I am not angsting too much.  The AWs losing does not stop me from watching it. 

In contrast, I was angsting a lot during our game against Ukraine. We might have won that particular game, in any case it was close. Our poor performance then was the difference. Here, not so much: if we played better it might be a 1:2 loss or at best a draw.

Does that answer your question?

Yeah that makes way more sense. Thanks :-)

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almost 11 years ago

Not sure what this Patterson guy brings exactly? Rufer isn't great, but surely better than him?

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

So frustrating these last two games watching NZ not being able to get shots on target.

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almost 11 years ago

I think our boys have cracked under the pressure of a home croud and heightened public expectations following a surprise draw first up. A lot of what's gone wrong tonight has been unforced errors. Kind of like the missed sitter at the end of the Ukraine game too. Apart from Tuiloma we look like possums in headlights

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almost 11 years ago

Dyer had all the time in the world there, better play though

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

croud figures was 16 000 plus??

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

I watched Myanmar vs Ukraine today and thought Myanmar were quite impressive in the first half. They don't have a lot of height but have some very quick players. I think they will cause NZ problems. 

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almost 11 years ago

DKP22 wrote:

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

Two phoenix pros are on the bench

Founder

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almost 11 years ago

Have to get that on target..

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

Bill slightly frustrated at how sharke his teamates are im guessing

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

Feverish wrote:

DKP22 wrote:

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

Two phoenix pros are on the bench

In my opinion, the Wellington Phoenix is hardly the environment required to develop quality players.

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almost 11 years ago

These american commentators are far better than your average nz sports caller.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

That seals it #average


  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

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almost 11 years ago

Wow that goal was quite disgusting.

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almost 11 years ago

That was pathetic. Someone fudgeing clear it.

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

Did I mention "ball watching" and "lack of movement"?

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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almost 11 years ago

hard out ball watching all farken night

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almost 11 years ago

Can't believe the supposed best U20 players in the country haven't figured out that you shouldn't ball watch

a.haak

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almost 11 years ago

Another goal from a completely unforced defensive error. FFS

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 11 years ago

DKP22 wrote:

Feverish wrote:

DKP22 wrote:

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

Two phoenix pros are on the bench

In my opinion, the Wellington Phoenix is hardly the environment required to develop quality players.

What would you propose? ASBP and schoolboy football?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 11 years ago

Almost threw up at that last one.

*sigh*

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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almost 11 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

DKP22 wrote:

Feverish wrote:

DKP22 wrote:

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

Two phoenix pros are on the bench

In my opinion, the Wellington Phoenix is hardly the environment required to develop quality players.

What would you propose? ASBP and schoolboy football?

*Read first post

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almost 11 years ago · edited almost 11 years ago · History

Feverish wrote:

DKP22 wrote:

Other than the 2 non-starting keepers, the entire USA squad are full professionals and therein lies the difference. The whole Wanderers SC concept was always going to be a failure as they aren't training every day together and they were playing in an absolute sub-standard competition with the ASB Premiership. You can see the difference Tuiloma and Edge have being full-time professionals. In my opinion, we need to get more young players playing professionally overseas (not including Australia) in order to truly progress.

Two phoenix pros are on the bench

Dyer has been sharkhouse tonight. On the 1st half, I can see why Ridenton got dragged. Why Rufer can't get off the bench, I have no clue but probably cause he does not play like the striker that Bazeley thinks he is. I mentioned prior to KO that Bazeley had it set up wrong but then its unlikely to have made a difference.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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almost 11 years ago

So what was everyone saying about the CB's being good? :d

a.haak

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