New Zealand U-23s - Quali Whites

And out of those three, I hope that it is Fred that gets the chop

Option C: none of the above.

Nobody will fall on their sword, and there is nobody around to do the pushing. It is a mutual appreciation society.

because of some man love for Mr Pickstock and Hudson I assume?

I'm not a lawyer and I respect all those who have studied the statues and formed an opinion.  The only thing I'd say on this is that in similar situations the Aussies realised they needed exemption clearance for Abini and the yanks realised they needed exemption clearance for Gedion Zelalem.  We on the other hand either didn't realise or chose to ignore it.

For those who believe it is a big OFC conspiracy; from what I can see even if we were playing in Asia, Deklan is still ineligible and we would have defaulted 3-0.

This is just the latest in a series of farces that FDJ has presided over. Not sure how many own goals he needs to score before he gets the shove. Such a shame because I used to enjoy watching him for the Kingz. Good feet for a big man.

Yeah, Gourdie sums things up pretty well in the vid:

http://www.3news.co.nz/sport/opinion-deklan-wynne-the-biggest-loser-in-eligibility-saga-2015071317#axzz3flIrypJh

If NZF didn't get dispensation from FIFA for Wynne to play for NZ, I think their appeal is doomed.

But we don't know all the facts yet, so it's going to be really frustrating until we have them and the appeal process runs its course.

I'm not on the defend FDJ boat (although Vader will say I am) - but i think any organisation which allows such continual cockups and general incompetance at most levels can't be blamed on one person.  Something there needs a shake up and i prefer not to focus on the sacking of this person or this person because if that person did leave won't the next person be allowed to make the same mistakes?

That is fair.

"FDJ Out" is my favourite hobby horse so I couldn't resist giving it a little nudge.

Poor old Deklan aye, this really is his Wynnter of Discontent.

Interesting to hear that Hudson will front the media session tomorrow as well with Martin.

Hudson seems pretty outspoken, so if someone from within NZF has stuffed up I'd expect him to say just as much.

How pathetic is it calling an 11:30pm presser at the airport. If they had any guts they'd do it at 9am tomorrow. Such a childish play.

You're right, it's section 8 that deals with that scenario. Section 7 applies because Deklan doesn't have permanent NZ nationality, as he wasn't a NZ national at birth (i.e. he has legitimately acquired NZ nationality, but hasn't always been a NZ national). 

Ha, I bet if they held it at 9am there would be people complaining that they should have fronted up as soon as they got off the plane. However 11:30pm does give the media time to get more copy together for the morning news so maybe its a good idea?

Everyone loses in this. Simply the worst event I can think of in NZF history during my time here of over 50 years. 

I still think making kids pay a fee to play for their national team was a lower ebb than this. 

Very True.

Interesting. I disagree with almost all of that.

I think if you look at NZF's behaviour they don't usually do the thing they think is "best" or "the most straight up". They will have organised this presser at a time which they think generates the least media attention without being ridiculous.

They will certainly blow smoke. As if that is even in doubt.

The Board are just there to hire people and set strategy. This is a management issue, unless the Board want to sack Andy Martin over it they really don't have any place fronting things.

Tribulietx for Head Coach?

Probably a good thing that Ramon didn't get the Brisbane gig then.

Yep.  Failure to confirm eligibility is squarely management as is contesting the fairness of a disciplinary process.

I hate the fact they are making Deklan himself front the media. As if any blame can be apportioned to him.

With respect to "would Hudson walk?". 

What does he lose with the Olympics, 3 valuable games and however many warmup games with his team. Then once that is over he would have 18 moths or so before a WC qualifier?. 

So are NZF capable of putting in place a schedule of games to help partly compensate for the lack of an Olympic campaign?

Think its the same level of horrible; in both cases theyve completely let down the team.

Maybe we could organise a 4 team tournament with some of the island nations, 3 games in 3 days held in Dunedin july next year

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I know his tie to Ellerslie and yours so it is also reasonable as an associate, to perhaps look at his performance with rosier coloured eyes than others. I would ask to you, fairly, what has he done that's been good in his time there. He may have some wins, but you would not know it. Perhaps they are out of sight of the general public? I would actually like to hear them cause I want our high performance guy to be making positive differences.

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Giving the chance for a good case to be presented for FDJ, you have to say that a decent chunk of it does not look good but I do leave my ears open to hear the other side of it.

What to expect in the media conference:

(1) Andy Martin and FDJ announce they are stepping down to allow the Boy Wonder Hudson to become the first person in history to be simultaneously CEO, technical director and national coach of an association.

#alignment

Hudson: "I like a high pressing style in administration  - so right now I'm going to spray words around like Barcelona does passes and you journos won't be able to get a word in edgeways...."

(2) Deklan Wynne reveals he is the secret love child of an All Black who was seeking consolation after the 1995 Rugby World Cup loss in South Africa. Think about it - the dates match up... Wynne is 20. 

Therefore he is eligible after all....

Later, Declan Edge and Wynton Rufer lay rival claims to adopting him at birth and being exclusively responsible for developing his football skills - and even naming him. "Deklan" = obviously Declan E. "Wynne" = WYNERS. Obviously....

How do you think of this stuff at this hour? Very good. 

Does anyone know how we can hear the conference or do we wait for an edit tomorrow?

 - hope there are a few sharks thrown in. Ramon are you waiting in the wings?

i'm not on here to defend him - i'm here saying if you sack him and Pickstock do you honestly believe that will turn around NZF - if not then are the problems deeper than them.

Personally like i said earlier NZF have been a shambles for a while and while FDJ in a lot of peoples eyes has not covered himself in roses the NZF office was not functioning before his reign either.

The amount of turnover of office staff there is pretty massive - every couple of years there is a cleanout of people, that can't be good - so what is the problem there, culture? accountability? pure arrogance? 

I'd have to say that Fred has scored more (own)goals while managing NZ then he managed playing for NZ!!!

NZ Footall system of checking - have they got a NZ passport.  Yes.  Sweet!

Take that Vanuatu!

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Hudson " It was a success, this is out of our control" 

I am prepared to wait and hear all the facts before I pass judgement. Though its been hugely entertaining reading 30 pages of legalise and angst and rage.

I want NZF to show the FIFA clearance that they obtained for Wynn....either for the senior AW's or the U20's.

Because it seems to me that unless they can show that clearance then we are Toast. OFC kicked us out under a FIFA rule. We have to counter argue using FIFA's regulations. We can argue about unfair process or what ever but if we did not clear the player then I can't see what case we have to argue. 

I don't have a  good feeling about this at all. I think NZF has stuffed up. Its not Hudsons fault. He selects...the managers clear eligibility. if we lose this then its a massive setback for the AW program. The Olympics was Hudsons major plan to field a shadow AW team. I think he will seriously consider his further role. He is a young ambitious coach. He must now realise this region is an amateur joke.

If NZF did not have a proper process to clear eligibility for anyone selected for NZ, then heads should roll. The alarm bells should have rung when Hudson stated we would search the globe for players. Anyone who was not a NZer from birth should have been carefully checked out. At the moment I will give them the benefit of doubt. But I feel this is not going to end well.

I can't blame Vanuatu for the way they acted. However I have a real real problem with the way OFC is run and managed.